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    Der renommierte deutsche Autor sagt, dass die Vertreibung der Deutschen nach dem Zweiten Weltkrieg die größte ethnische Säuberung war, die jemals in Europa stattgefunden hat

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    1. MysteriousAndLesbian on

      You gave him attention. He won what he wanted. Just ignore shit like that as people will say random bullshit just to get views and attention

    2. pawskor on

      The same fate awaits the russians after this stupid war is over. If you use your people living in foreign countries as a Casus Belli for war, prepare for the ethnic cleansing of said people.

    4. Kenumaaaq on

      Cuz Germans never changed

      They still believe in the same ideals but in different form lol

    6. Vhermithrax on

      Maybe they never heard it happen, because they were more interested to hear about something else that occured during that time period? I wonder what could have that been

    8. antolleus on

      i seem to recall an even greater genocide taking place before this, wonder if those two are somehow related

    10. mad007din on

      Germans like to cry about it a lot apparently.

      When I was at (a German) school, the day we talked about this the teacher was like „Oh these poor people, were forced out of their homes“, like wtf? Didn’t we just had the German occupancy and their doings as topic for the last month? The fuck did they expect back then? „Haha sorry we wanted to kill the entire east European population, but now we’re friends“…

    13. Polaroid1793 on

      Maybe don’t start a war against the whole world and it would not happen? Totally optional.

    15. lucky_to_be_me on

      Very low penalty… for wiping out 35-40 million people from the earth…

    18. laiszt on

      Definietely many people in Western Europe have never heard about WWII and how did germany start it invading Poland, killing millions jews in gas chambers, russians and other slavic nations not only with bullets but with starvation and basically everyone around Europe. Thank you for reminding us about that.

    21. vegardx on

      This is textbook propaganda post.

      That he is a renowned author is completely irrelevant, but they hope you overlook that or misread it as historian or that he somehow speaks for Germans in general. Also, he doesn’t seem to be very renowned when you actually search him up.

      Account is one year old. Comment and post history hidden. Nothing in the easy to copy text that you could search on. But tons of post and comment upvotes. Connect the dots. Report it and get it removed.

    22. wouek on

      Wasn’t it just sending the guys that got too cozy in 39 back where they came from?

    26. TheKrzysiek on

      OK, I’ll be devil’s advocate.

      While I would’ve used „forced migration“, technically it would fit into definition of „ethnic cleansing“.

      That all said, for me this is one of the very few „bad things that ended up sort of good in the long term“ that the Soviets did.

      One of the leading causes of conflicts in the interwar period was „liberation“ of people of your ethnicity/nationality living in another country, or rather more likely taking pieces of another country with this as an excuse (hell, we ourselves had multiple conflicts with Germany, Lithuanians and Czechs like that)

      Not to mention internal conflicts between people in same country belonging to different ethnicities or nationalities

      So with each country being more homogeneous, those conflicts wouldn’t be as common anymore, which we did see

      Oh also they lost the war

    28. NamelessKeeper_89 on

      Yeah, MOVING 14 million people from one place to another is a bigger ethnic cleansing than KILLING 6 million Poles and Jews and moving the next 2 (if I recall correctly) from eastern lands after war. The world we live in…

      Yes, it was a tragedy for those people. They lost their homes, left graves of their families, a lot of young women suffer rape from Red Army soldiers, many died from injuries and exhaustion, etc.

      Yet I can’t feel sorry for people that supported their Nazi regime and all the atrocities they committed. They kept what is most important: their lives, when over 10 million people didn’t because of their fathers, sons, and brothers actions and inaction.

      And I will say the same thing about Americans if they will let Trump and his goons turn the USA into a new nazi regime. No sympathy from me.

    29. Odd-Chemist464 on

      partially it was ethnic cleansing, germany attacking other countries doesn’t make germans that lived in other countries for several generations automatically responsible for it

      however, it surely is wrong to call it largest 

    30. MMQ-966thestart on

      He isn’t a renowned author. He is a cheap propagandist who cherry picks maps, data, and thinks emotional whining is a valid way to mask the fact that his conclusions are essentially just lies.

      He blocked me on twitter because he can’t deal the fact that posting stupid stuff like this will cause people to correct him.

    31. TolyaMK on

      What could possibly have driven all the untermenschen to eject the German people from their lands after 1945?

      If we only knew what this was, maybe this would not be such a mystery.

    32. Soft_Marionberry4932 on

      If russia wanted to conduct information warfare on social media, this is exactly what they would do. Get their German guy to say something that insults the Polish and show and it to the Polish.

    33. aenz_ on

      I am very suspicious of why he is bringing this up (and not any of the other post-WW2 mass-expulsions), but he isn’t wrong that this was an atrocity. Germans as a whole are certainly not primary victims within the context of WW2 and its aftermath, but that doesn’t mean that this wasn’t ethnic cleansing.

      The thing that is annoying though, is that there is no context given. Just looking at a map like this you might easily think that the countries from which the expulsions happened are responsible for the expelling, but you would be wrong. These expulsions were overseen by the Red Army on the direct orders of Stalin, and they mirrored similar expulsions that happened further east.

      Poland gained a lot of formerly german territory, some of which had never been part of Poland in any previous time. Simultaneously, Poland lost a swath of eastern territory that is now mostly Ukraine and Belarus (which were parts of the USSR at the time). The largest net-loser of territory in this reshuffle was Germany, but the largest net winner was the USSR, not Poland or any of the other countries shown.

      The other part of this that is worth mentioning is that Stalin had people sorted into whichever country matched their ethnicity, basically turning all of these countries into ethno-states. Most previous territorial expansions in Europe simply meant changing who had authority over a region, but Stalin’s version of this involved forcing millions of people to move west at gunpoint, whether from Wrocław into the new East Germany or from Lwów into the new Polish borders.

    34. gereonrath76 on

      ![gif](giphy|4Z9fSEFAuxpnlBVWQx|downsized)

      Him after actually reading a real history book instead of sharing bullshit on twitter

    36. Jalcatraz82 on

      I mean you may say it’s deserved for what they did in WW2 (I lost family members to the germans as well) but nevertheless he’s factually correct

      edit : just saw the sub, I’m not polish

    38. Late-Preparation5384 on

      In fact, there’s a chance it was one of the largest resettlements in European history, but I’ll be honest – what did the Germans even expect when the war ended (when they knew they would lose)? That everyone would love them, or rather that everyone would want to get rid of them as far and as quickly as possible? It’s worth remembering that in Poland, for example, Łódź, which wasn’t even part of the German partition but had a German minority, greeted German troops with the Heil Hitler! greeting in 1939. Judging by their smiles, they weren’t forced to, and the trials and investigations would have dragged on for years – and what can I say to the Germans from Wrocław or Szczecin? Well, Poland had already lost enough in World War II and morally deserved compensation in the form of former German lands, and I don’t care much about the opinions and feelings of the expelled Germans who couldn’t sit still and not foam at the mouth at the sight of the „Polish Corridor“ or the Free City of Gdańsk.

    39. Solid_Ad_6109 on

      Isn’t that 4.2 million from DDR? Why he counts immigration as ethnic cleansing? Is he stupid?

    40. djole2mcloud on

      Yeah, if they didn’t attack whole Europe, maybe they would stay where they were…but, this is the true…there were so many Germans here in my part of the Belgrade before and during WW2 (as Hitler named them [***volksdeutscher***](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=36c52ed8992032f9&rlz=1C1GCEA_enRS1065RS1065&biw=1792&bih=1250&aic=0&sxsrf=ANbL-n5_M73Va09dSJEiiStXpscbq00HGQ:1768661950030&q=volksdeutscher&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjVm4ma65KSAxVKA9sEHQTlA-8QBSgAegQICxAB)).They lived more then 200-300 yrs here, but after WW2 they were all sent back to Germany, all of their assets are confiscated or demolished…

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