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    Die Grünen scheinen bereit zu sein, aufzuräumen, während die Labour-Wechsel nach links gehen


    Die Grünen scheinen bereit zu sein, aufzuräumen, während die Labour-Wechsel nach links gehen

    https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/greens-look-set-to-clean-up-as-labour-switchers-move-left

    Von lotsofsweat

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    1. RaymondBumcheese on

      I think it’s less that voters ‘moved left’ as ‘realise Labour moved right’

    2. ExoneratedPhoenix on

      Basically both those on the left and right are fed up with the two mainstream parties who keep trying to broad-church while going against their voter base.

      Tories did the usual stuff but kept also trying to cater to woke ideology which was confusing.

      Labour did the usual stuff but makes island of strangers speeches which made people double take.

      I still do not understand the „elections are won from the centre“ logic. This is demonstrably not true.

      Tories biggest wins, Thatcher and Boris Johnson, 4 elections, landslides, were won on very right wing proposals.

    4. Deadliftdeadlife on

      The state is politics here when the 2 main parties are so wildly hated that majorities are moving to the 2 other parties that are both ridiculous

    5. BrexitFool on

      I’m a former Tory and Reform voter. No way am I siding with people like Joey Barton and Tommie two names.

      I’ll never go back to them. Labour just seem to be Tory 2.0.

      My politics have really changed since the pandemic.

      I keep hearing how Reform are probably going to destroy Labour. I’m not convinced. I think the Greens will destroy them.

      I hope it happens.

    7. Few-Hair-5382 on

      The NIMBY party, led by a moron who thinks he can sort out the world’s affairs by just asking Putin nicely to get rid of his nukes.

      A parliament with Farage as PM and Polanski as Leader of the Opposition would be the punchline to a bad joke.

    8. Capital-Mortgage-374 on

      The Greens are not a realistic threat to attract enough voters for a majority. They will never get a majority and will only bleed votes for the left. Open-border policies are at odds with what the overwhelming majority of people in the UK want. Ending refugee detention would cause crimes to rise and civil unrest. Puberty blockers for children are massively objected to by middle Britain; likewise, gender affirming care for minors is deeply unpopular. They are economically naive and will drive away investment. Basically, they take a fringe position on any culture war issue.

      The likes of Tories and Reform voters would tactically vote against any sort of Green uprising, even if that means voting for Labour or Lib Dems. Reform will likely face a similar problem, unless it can tap into the politically unattached working-class voters. Regardless, each party is deemed to be too ‚extreme‘ to get an overall majority. The most likely scenario is a coalition in the next GE. I suspect this will be Reform/Tories based on current polling.

    9. Emergency-Wish6080 on

      So the labour voters move to the greens and the tory voters move to reform. Are we seriously going to finally break the two party stalemate we’ve had forever by…replacing it with a different two party stalemate? What a joy modern politics is

    10. Chill_Panda on

      Ahh no more nukes, army, or air space then…. Good, that’s what we want.

      I’d like to thank the British public for really loving the extreme parties, damned if you do, damned if you dont

    11. Toastlove on

      Interesting to see criticism for people going to Reform with an objectively terrible manifesto, but praise for people going Green with an objectively terrible manifesto.

    12. LopsidedLegs on

      As much as I like a lot of their polices they are incredibly weak on defence and too supportive of Nimbys. Also their polices on Nuclear Power are not great either.

      At present I vote Labour in GE, and LibDems in LE because they are the most likely to keep the Tories and Reform out. How that is going to change in the next few years we will have to see.

    13. Rude_Sheepherder_714 on

      Or the hard left have had their usual hissy fit when faced with being in power and having to make hard choices, so have moved even further left where they’ll never have to worry about actually being in power ever.

    14. WelshLaptop on

      Most people who turned away from Labour did so because the party implemented policies that weren’t in its manifesto, became more authoritarian, and broke its promise not to raise taxes.

    16. raven43122 on

      Now imagine what the greens could do if they dropped the insane parts of policy.

    17. Alive_Conclusion_850 on

      Ex Tory voter here and I’m completely stumped on who to vote for come election time.

      Reform are bad bad news, way too right leaning. Their leader is Trump 2.0 and I don’t have confidence they’ll follow through anything they say.

      Greens are too far left for me and I don’t have confidence in their foreign policy and policy on nuclear energy.

      Labour aren’t as bad as everybody says but they seem to take forever in deciding things in a time where people are impatient due to the cost of living.

      Tories are just a mess. Too opposition minded as opposed to focusing on making good policies and planning them effectively.

      The whole situation is a mess.

      Edit: forgot Lib Dems, which just says it all about them!

    18. Wadarkhu on

      Looking forward to seeing Reform win a „majority“ with just 20% of the vote while the rest of us are scattered amongst the numerous „not Tories or Reform“ political groups. /S

    19. JustGap8613 on

      The economically illiterate purists about to hand Farage a super majority 😂

    21. recursant on

      Reform splitting the right vote is what allowed Labour in.

      Greens splitting the left vote might be what lets Reform in.

      I wish Labour were a bit better, then we could just vote for them.

    22. kizza96 on

      green set to clean up (going from 4 seats out of 650 to 7 seats out of 650) – truly exhilarating stuff

    23. AxiosXiphos on

      I like the greens… but their nuclear policies bother me significantly. Not only is nuclear power extremely clean and effective, right now is NOT the time to be getting rid of our Nuclear Arms. Not with America and Russia breathing down our necks.

      I’ll probably end up voting lib dem.

    24. Voidhunger on

      Huh, I don’t usually see these. I usually get the deeply concerned versions where we cry about things like “splitting the vote in these times” etc.

    25. Reddsoldier on

      It makes sense. Their response to every challenge from the media since Starmer came in is to kick the left and shift right because that was where the new labour lot wanted to be anyway and because just moving right was easier than providing an actual functional alternative.

      Only now are they realising that yes, left leaning voters can just go somewhere else and this never factored into their gameplan because they were too naive to think someone would come along and provide one.

      The endgame truly is that we’ll have 3 parties: Reform, Tories and Labour fighting for an ever dwindling amount of conservative Gen Xers and boomers whilst the Greens are left to try and represent everyone who doesn’t want to start murdering economic migrants with ED 209. Somehow the Lib Dems will do something to keep themselves irrelevant too like go all in on defending their actions under Nick Clegg.

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