Kanadische Truppen werden sich den europäischen Streitkräften in Grönland nicht anschließen
https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/canadian-troops-wont-be-joining-european-military-force-in-greenland/article_6028c334-240e-4458-b110-291dbd91f97f.html
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One of the first things Carney has done that I would classify as a „bad move“.
Particularly given that we are one of the nations asserting sovereignty over part of the Arctic. We got a real bad hombre south of us flexing and this shit is right in our backyard.
Hard agree. I didn’t like the initial reporting we would – we have enough challenges and don’t need to take a purely defensive position in a foreign country against the US.
Not good, should be standing with our allies.
Who will come to our defense when the US inevitably comes after us?
Its interesting seeing those who praised Carney’s pragmatism are surprised or unhappy with this move. Its expected given our tenuous geopolitical position.
Canadian soldiers are more useful deployed in Latvia right now than they would be posturing in Greenland.
Remember that Canada has thousands of troops deployed in Eastern Europe, that they get replaced every 6 months with fresh troops…
When Canada deploys 4000 soldiers, you must understand that it is really more like 12,000 soldiers when accounting for support and logistics crews, plane crews, strategic planning officers, maintenance crews and all of the rest…
One combat soldier needs up to 3 support soldiers.
And that 6 months later you need another 4000 to 8000 soldiers to replace those who’ve been deployed…
So deploying 4000 soldiers to Europe really requires something like 20,000 soldiers in the span of a year.
Everyone saying this is bad, is wrong.
If the USA attacks greenland, we are at war with them due to article 5.
We cannot spare troops to defend Greenland in the even it is attacked.
What in the F man. Jesus. I guess I’ll just be looking out for myself, because I can’t rely on my country to do the right thing
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Yet another example of Carney backing down. No more elbows up. No more “the most European of non-European countries.” When the going gets rough we are going to…back down.
Greenland is Canada’s immediate neighbor to the East (if you ignore Saint Pierre and Miquelon) and we don’t want to help defend it at least a little bit.
It’s interesting because for a hot moment there the rest of the world was rooting for Canada but now it’s like “Canada who?”
Looks like another wimp was elected. But I get it, no other choice cuz the other guy was a twirp in his own right. Sorta like the US situation: elect the really old guy, the super annoying woman or the other old guy. What are you gonna do?
Me? I’d cancel the f35s and send troops to Greenland all in one tidy announcement today. Maybe I’d even cancel the whole ice breaker scheme but they most likely transferred the IP to the US contractors already.
I can’t see anything in the article, so It’s hard to have a comment – but there is a difference between maintaining rotating deployments of troops (which from my understanding is what Europe is doing) vs. participating in exercises in the region (which I’m sure Canada would participate in). If we are participating in exercises, we would still have troops there but on a temporary basis which gives government a bit of wiggle room if it comes up during trade negotiations. A second big advantage to having NATO countries post troops there is it does give Canada a bit more backing from NATO, knowing that there are more troops closer to us to help defend in the event of a US invasion or a Canadian invocation of Article 5.
According to this, Canada already has troops in Greenland for ongoing exercises
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/canada-is-right-in-the-middle-what-trumps-greenland-threats-mean-for-canada
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People seem to forget that Trump has also been making noise about Canada, and we’re in the middle of trade talks with the U.S. right now. Sending Canadian troops to Greenland would almost certainly make that situation worse, not better.
Canada is already very close to Greenland, and our northern bases are within quick response range. We also sit geographically between the U.S. and Greenland, so it’s not like Canada couldn’t respond quickly if something actually happened. Canada needs to avoid provocation, and focus on protecting its own interests first and that is why Carney made the decision.
This is the wrong move. The NATO forces being sent to Greenland are not sufficient to repel an American invasion and they aren’t supposed to be. They are going to make it more costly for America to attack, because even if NATO splinters, they may be reluctant to declare war on numerous nations at once. This also means that if no attack materializes, Europe hasn’t significantly splintered its forces. Canada has no excuse.
Who do we have left to deploy? The raw recruits fresh out of CFLRS that just finished their BMQ? All the real soldiers are in Latvia with MNB Lativa we have nobody left due to the recruiting shortfall and manpower shortages.