Great, can we stop now with these ridiculous decriminalization and “safe consumption” experiments?
Juice1984 on
Allowing drug zombies to do whatever they want was never the answer. There must be balance between their struggles and the ability of regular people to live and use public spaces.
semucallday on
They mucked up what could have been a promising idea by dismissing potential harms and over-indexing on reducing stigma at the cost of other complementary program elements.
Won’t get another kick at the can for quite some time.
JCbfd on
Its ridiculous it took this long, let alone even trying it out. So much stupid in canada.
Gym_frere on
The bodies piling up in the streets after the pandemic were crazy. Thousands of people dying per year. Nothing that the government was doing was working.
It’s clear now that decriminalization wasn’t the answer, but I don’t blame them for trying something different.
At least now we can stop blaming this for an issue that’s existed for decades.
mambakobe8 on
That was a success 🥴🥴
shiftless_wonder on
BC has been on the cutting edge of every progressive drug experiment over the last several decades and they *never* work.
hermology on
Have we tried supercrimilization?
papakilomike on
Invoke the notwithstanding clause as these people need to be forcibly put in treatment facilities to save their lives. We’re in a whole different ballgame with Fentanyl, and drastic measures need to be taken. Opioid dealers should be given a life sentence after 3-strikes (or immediate deportation if non-citizens). Enough playing around. We’ve tried the “nice” approach for far too long. Too many have died, families ruined, and cities subjected to all manner of filth and degradation.
ArbainHestia on
We need programs that keep people from turning to drugs in the first place. Better funded education, more health care funding especially mental health, more social programs (sports, youth groups, cadets, volunteer work, etc), and more opportunities for youth and younger Canadians to get employment.
Anotherspelunker on
Leniency towards this mess helps no one and is basically an indifferent enabler’s excuse, letting the problem worsen, as we have experienced in the last few years… you end up with substance abusers shooting up in playgrounds and wherever they please, affecting nearby communities. There is no short-term solution to this epidemic, but we sure as hell have proven it is nowhere near decriminalizing the public use of those substances
Jean_Luc_Discarded on
Yep because before this, arresting people had this problem completely solved right?
— mindless viewpoints
Winter_External5625 on
Good.
What a huge waste of time, resources and lives, my god — and for what? What do we have to show for it? Other than a failed pilot project?
TheSleepyTruth on
Wow, turns out if you make hard drugs legal and accessible that more people will dabble and subsequently become addicted to the drugs. Additionally they’ll shoot up in broad daylight in the middle of public sidewalks because they know there are no consequences. Who could have ever seen this problem coming?!
UncertainFate on
Concerns really under cells are experience experiences with this pilot project. How about “completely eliminated major parts of our city as places that the majority of people feel safe to go. Devastating businesses in some neighbourhoods and indirectly leading to multiple assaults.
CarlosLeDanger69 on
I was initially for BC trying decriminalization out, because I thought it might help out a bit, because the situation was so fucked. But from my perspective of what I see in the streets it definitely hasn’t.
I don’t know what the solution is, but this isn’t it.
inshallahyala on
They did norway’s model of drug decriminalization without the part where they actual support those in need with rehab, employment, and housing.
It seems like it was setup to fail to continue the war on drugs, even though we know thats ineffective. As an excuse to keep spending so much on the homeless without actually addressing the issues at hand. I’m venturing into conspiracy though.
Zulban on
Everyone thinks they’re an expert on drug policy. Almost nobody is.
jason733canada on
now lets see them put the genie back in the bottle
5ourdiesel on
I think it’s kinda late…
Trick_Sandwich_7208 on
But, but, but, the studies showed x…. We really need more accountability for people in the academic world who conduct and publish “studies” that are obviously cherry picking their data or filled with obvious flaws in their methodology… these people are right up there with the “scientists” that told the public that cigarettes were safe and asbestos was great and not harmful. Hope they realize how much blood is on their hands.
Demetre19864 on
I’m about done on dodging clouds of crack or meth smoke on my way to get groceries as they stand on sidewalks in the open.
Go back to the back ally , they should be worried about been seen in public.
This destigmatized drug use is rediculous.
GinnyJr on
Good riddance
Hairy_Pound_1356 on
Good
O00O0O00 on
So many pro-drugs enablers. This is a brutal problem and it will never be solved if we passively accept drug abuse or try to enshrine it as a “right”.
MourningWood1942 on
In BC it was the same before and after. When it was illegal it wasn’t enforced, it was just a good way to check for warrants. People were smoking fent on every street corner regardless.
Saisinko on
Born and raised in BC and it’s wild to see how many neighborhoods start to get taken over by homelessness, mental illness, and drug-use. It used to be more isolated to downtown areas, but as they spread drug sites around it also spread the problem.
I had been noticing an uptick in druggies in my area recently and I wasn’t sure why, but I raised an eyebrow and went about my business. Next thing I know, my mail is occasionally getting stolen and someone is snooping around my house and when I confront them he said he’ll burn down the house and hopes my family is inside.
I discover soon after there’s a new drug site in my area and it’s like ugh… there’s like needles in ground all over.
Plan to move out of BC for housing costs, but also just this excessive homelessness crisis. I sympathize to a degree, but it’s easy to get bitter that we pump billions of dollars in resources for these people to stay on the streets and I can’t walk my dog through a park without worry about what they’re sniffing. Put the billions into prisons, housing, and mental health facilities.
Wayves on
We don’t have the money to treat the addicts from BC let alone the addicts that all the other provinces send us.
I fully believe the chemical addiction is just too strong for the majority of addicts to get clean without forced incarceration at a treatment facility.
DoctorCapital on
Anyone with an ounce of common sense could see this coming from the start.
When it’s decriminalized (Read: Essentially legal) to walk around with Heroin, Meth, or any other schedule one narcotic of your choice things will end badly.
And yet I a law abiding, tax paying citizen, cannot get medication over the counter without a prescription. If a homeless person can be trusted with their narcotics of choice, why I can’t I walk into a pharmacy and take my pick?
420_69_Fake_Account on
I don’t have any problems with the program except for the fucking abuse and stolen drugs that are unaccounted for… people don’t stop doing drugs except by choice. Making them hide in the shadows with no people around makes it inescapable which to some people means they should be put down which in its own is fucking psychopath talk…
Baikken on
Hamsterdam from The Wire btw.
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Great, can we stop now with these ridiculous decriminalization and “safe consumption” experiments?
Allowing drug zombies to do whatever they want was never the answer. There must be balance between their struggles and the ability of regular people to live and use public spaces.
They mucked up what could have been a promising idea by dismissing potential harms and over-indexing on reducing stigma at the cost of other complementary program elements.
Won’t get another kick at the can for quite some time.
Its ridiculous it took this long, let alone even trying it out. So much stupid in canada.
The bodies piling up in the streets after the pandemic were crazy. Thousands of people dying per year. Nothing that the government was doing was working.
It’s clear now that decriminalization wasn’t the answer, but I don’t blame them for trying something different.
At least now we can stop blaming this for an issue that’s existed for decades.
That was a success 🥴🥴
BC has been on the cutting edge of every progressive drug experiment over the last several decades and they *never* work.
Have we tried supercrimilization?
Invoke the notwithstanding clause as these people need to be forcibly put in treatment facilities to save their lives. We’re in a whole different ballgame with Fentanyl, and drastic measures need to be taken. Opioid dealers should be given a life sentence after 3-strikes (or immediate deportation if non-citizens). Enough playing around. We’ve tried the “nice” approach for far too long. Too many have died, families ruined, and cities subjected to all manner of filth and degradation.
We need programs that keep people from turning to drugs in the first place. Better funded education, more health care funding especially mental health, more social programs (sports, youth groups, cadets, volunteer work, etc), and more opportunities for youth and younger Canadians to get employment.
Leniency towards this mess helps no one and is basically an indifferent enabler’s excuse, letting the problem worsen, as we have experienced in the last few years… you end up with substance abusers shooting up in playgrounds and wherever they please, affecting nearby communities. There is no short-term solution to this epidemic, but we sure as hell have proven it is nowhere near decriminalizing the public use of those substances
Yep because before this, arresting people had this problem completely solved right?
— mindless viewpoints
Good.
What a huge waste of time, resources and lives, my god — and for what? What do we have to show for it? Other than a failed pilot project?
Wow, turns out if you make hard drugs legal and accessible that more people will dabble and subsequently become addicted to the drugs. Additionally they’ll shoot up in broad daylight in the middle of public sidewalks because they know there are no consequences. Who could have ever seen this problem coming?!
Concerns really under cells are experience experiences with this pilot project. How about “completely eliminated major parts of our city as places that the majority of people feel safe to go. Devastating businesses in some neighbourhoods and indirectly leading to multiple assaults.
I was initially for BC trying decriminalization out, because I thought it might help out a bit, because the situation was so fucked. But from my perspective of what I see in the streets it definitely hasn’t.
I don’t know what the solution is, but this isn’t it.
They did norway’s model of drug decriminalization without the part where they actual support those in need with rehab, employment, and housing.
It seems like it was setup to fail to continue the war on drugs, even though we know thats ineffective. As an excuse to keep spending so much on the homeless without actually addressing the issues at hand. I’m venturing into conspiracy though.
Everyone thinks they’re an expert on drug policy. Almost nobody is.
now lets see them put the genie back in the bottle
I think it’s kinda late…
But, but, but, the studies showed x…. We really need more accountability for people in the academic world who conduct and publish “studies” that are obviously cherry picking their data or filled with obvious flaws in their methodology… these people are right up there with the “scientists” that told the public that cigarettes were safe and asbestos was great and not harmful. Hope they realize how much blood is on their hands.
I’m about done on dodging clouds of crack or meth smoke on my way to get groceries as they stand on sidewalks in the open.
Go back to the back ally , they should be worried about been seen in public.
This destigmatized drug use is rediculous.
Good riddance
Good
So many pro-drugs enablers. This is a brutal problem and it will never be solved if we passively accept drug abuse or try to enshrine it as a “right”.
In BC it was the same before and after. When it was illegal it wasn’t enforced, it was just a good way to check for warrants. People were smoking fent on every street corner regardless.
Born and raised in BC and it’s wild to see how many neighborhoods start to get taken over by homelessness, mental illness, and drug-use. It used to be more isolated to downtown areas, but as they spread drug sites around it also spread the problem.
I had been noticing an uptick in druggies in my area recently and I wasn’t sure why, but I raised an eyebrow and went about my business. Next thing I know, my mail is occasionally getting stolen and someone is snooping around my house and when I confront them he said he’ll burn down the house and hopes my family is inside.
I discover soon after there’s a new drug site in my area and it’s like ugh… there’s like needles in ground all over.
Plan to move out of BC for housing costs, but also just this excessive homelessness crisis. I sympathize to a degree, but it’s easy to get bitter that we pump billions of dollars in resources for these people to stay on the streets and I can’t walk my dog through a park without worry about what they’re sniffing. Put the billions into prisons, housing, and mental health facilities.
We don’t have the money to treat the addicts from BC let alone the addicts that all the other provinces send us.
I fully believe the chemical addiction is just too strong for the majority of addicts to get clean without forced incarceration at a treatment facility.
Anyone with an ounce of common sense could see this coming from the start.
When it’s decriminalized (Read: Essentially legal) to walk around with Heroin, Meth, or any other schedule one narcotic of your choice things will end badly.
And yet I a law abiding, tax paying citizen, cannot get medication over the counter without a prescription. If a homeless person can be trusted with their narcotics of choice, why I can’t I walk into a pharmacy and take my pick?
I don’t have any problems with the program except for the fucking abuse and stolen drugs that are unaccounted for… people don’t stop doing drugs except by choice. Making them hide in the shadows with no people around makes it inescapable which to some people means they should be put down which in its own is fucking psychopath talk…
Hamsterdam from The Wire btw.