The FBI absolutely cannot be trusted to investigate this in good faith.
blues111 on
Good, bring state level charges and then Trump cant do shit
WhatzRealz on
It’s a shame we lost the FBI. They were always goons, but at least they used to be professional goons.
reddittorbrigade on
Don’t lose hope. There is still a very small chance for us to save our country.
Please vote this November like our lives depend on it.
SicilyMalta on
They’ve taken the playbook of Authoritarian regimes. A normal government would not instantly double down. It would not block local law enforcement. It would ask for calm while it investigates. A normal president would not claim the agent was run over and hospitalized. A normal VP would not claim this mom was part of a violent leftist network.
They would offer training to de escalate , etc. This would win over independents, people on the fence who haven’t paid much attention until now.
They don’t want to – they don’t care. The purpose is not to sway. It’s to show they can manipulate reality, and get away with it. It’s to flex power.
Authoritarian experts suggest that when a leader says something obviously false, the goal is to demonstrate dominance. It forces people to either submit to the lie or become „enemies“ of the state.
Once you are an enemy of the state, different rules apply.
The Republican administration welcomes this. It is an opportunity for them to get the cosplay of being a Democracy out of the way quickly.
Hidden_Landmine on
Why is everyone pretending to „investigate“ this? We know what happened, anyone can just check the actual footage. Will be interesting to see what happens if a state actually has the balls to ban ICE, and whether or not local police will actually follow those commands.
SicilyMalta on
Once the government insists a murdered mom is a terrorist, it can then block local police and independent courts from investigating. It gives the murderers immunity.
Enough of these confrontations with „terrorists“ will lead to the government „saving“ the country – martial law, delayed elections…
Stuff a year ago I’d laugh off as conspiracy theories.
PlayfullGuy2 on
Excellent news!
stuckanon01 on
Trump has single handedly turned Democrats into the party of “states rights.” State level prosecutions are the only way we can have accountability.
bluepillarmy on
Since ICE has broken the law, can’t the Minneapolis police department simply arrest ICE officers who are performing unconstitutional acts or, at least, just detain them?
I’m certain local law enforcement outnumbers ICE by quite a bit.
pippopera on
Question from outside (Europe).
Are there conservatives who admit that the ICE agent made gross procedural errors, doing everything possible to create a dangerous situation instead of avoiding it?
HenryValMorgenstern on
Good! Now let’s see if anything actually comes of it.
Slackluster on
If someone thinks their life is in danger, they would act to stop that danger. However shooting the driver of a vehicle does not stop the car from moving forward or change it’s trajectory. The car did not hit the agent, therefore he was never in danger. He walked away without a scratch.
In fact he made the situation much more dangerous, aside from straight up killing someone. Eliminating the driver turned the vehicle into a real uncontrolled threat, luckily no one else was in front of it. Also firing recklessly could have hit someone else, even another ICE agent who was standing in the line of fire on the passenger side.
So, if he incorrectly thought he was in danger of being run over, shooting the driver would not only not have saved him but also made the situation more dangerous for everyone around. Really the only dangerous thing about the situation was him carrying a weapon in the first place.
DerpsTerps on
Cash said nobody was trafficked when talking about the Epstein files. Whatever credibility the FBI had is gone.
Thoomer_Bottoms on
Indict Ross for murder, and indict any federal officials that stonewall the process with conspiracy and abetting after the fact. Make it a huge public spectacle, and make a lasting example out of these motherfuckers.
HmmmLetsSee1024 on
What is there to investigate? He did it. Everybody saw it from many different camera angles. He wasn’t in danger. It’s a slam dunk. He has a right to a speedy trial. Let’s give it to him.
Ok_Sound9973 on
Minnesota need to pick up Jonathan Ross and Charge him with Murder like Yesterday because there is no Ambiguity on the facts of the Situation Renee Nicole Good was executed on Camera
TriflingHotDogVendor on
Minnesota must charge this man with murder or we are no longer even attempting to live under the rule of law.
Do_or_Do_Not480 on
Good! Sadly, the FBI is hopelessly compromised under the „leadership“ of Keystone Kash and ICE Barbie💩💩
tellurian_pluton on
too little too late
walz had a chance to have the murderer arrested. he chose to let him walk free
I remember when republicans used to criticize the federal government for overstepping states rights.
I don’t even know what a “Republican” is anymore
squareplates on
I hear the FBI is withholding evidence.
Well fuck em. There is enough evidence in the public domain already to indict and convict.
El_Zilcho99 on
Nice one!
LevelCan764 on
She resisted hit officer with car got shot not the first time this exact thing has happened
AnimuX on
Governors need to start raising state militias now before Republicans tell their brownshirts they can just murder all of us at will.
Mad-_-Doctor on
The rest of the country should take notes. The feds only care about themselves, not the average citizen. The ICE murder of a mother in MN and the subsequent coverup prove that beyond a doubt.
The only way we will survive this is if we take care of things ourselves.
ToadP on
Good now put a Warrant out for the Shooter.
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The FBI absolutely cannot be trusted to investigate this in good faith.
Good, bring state level charges and then Trump cant do shit
It’s a shame we lost the FBI. They were always goons, but at least they used to be professional goons.
Don’t lose hope. There is still a very small chance for us to save our country.
Please vote this November like our lives depend on it.
They’ve taken the playbook of Authoritarian regimes. A normal government would not instantly double down. It would not block local law enforcement. It would ask for calm while it investigates. A normal president would not claim the agent was run over and hospitalized. A normal VP would not claim this mom was part of a violent leftist network.
They would offer training to de escalate , etc. This would win over independents, people on the fence who haven’t paid much attention until now.
They don’t want to – they don’t care. The purpose is not to sway. It’s to show they can manipulate reality, and get away with it. It’s to flex power.
Authoritarian experts suggest that when a leader says something obviously false, the goal is to demonstrate dominance. It forces people to either submit to the lie or become „enemies“ of the state.
Once you are an enemy of the state, different rules apply.
The Republican administration welcomes this. It is an opportunity for them to get the cosplay of being a Democracy out of the way quickly.
Why is everyone pretending to „investigate“ this? We know what happened, anyone can just check the actual footage. Will be interesting to see what happens if a state actually has the balls to ban ICE, and whether or not local police will actually follow those commands.
Once the government insists a murdered mom is a terrorist, it can then block local police and independent courts from investigating. It gives the murderers immunity.
Enough of these confrontations with „terrorists“ will lead to the government „saving“ the country – martial law, delayed elections…
Stuff a year ago I’d laugh off as conspiracy theories.
Excellent news!
Trump has single handedly turned Democrats into the party of “states rights.” State level prosecutions are the only way we can have accountability.
Since ICE has broken the law, can’t the Minneapolis police department simply arrest ICE officers who are performing unconstitutional acts or, at least, just detain them?
I’m certain local law enforcement outnumbers ICE by quite a bit.
Question from outside (Europe).
Are there conservatives who admit that the ICE agent made gross procedural errors, doing everything possible to create a dangerous situation instead of avoiding it?
Good! Now let’s see if anything actually comes of it.
If someone thinks their life is in danger, they would act to stop that danger. However shooting the driver of a vehicle does not stop the car from moving forward or change it’s trajectory. The car did not hit the agent, therefore he was never in danger. He walked away without a scratch.
In fact he made the situation much more dangerous, aside from straight up killing someone. Eliminating the driver turned the vehicle into a real uncontrolled threat, luckily no one else was in front of it. Also firing recklessly could have hit someone else, even another ICE agent who was standing in the line of fire on the passenger side.
So, if he incorrectly thought he was in danger of being run over, shooting the driver would not only not have saved him but also made the situation more dangerous for everyone around. Really the only dangerous thing about the situation was him carrying a weapon in the first place.
Cash said nobody was trafficked when talking about the Epstein files. Whatever credibility the FBI had is gone.
Indict Ross for murder, and indict any federal officials that stonewall the process with conspiracy and abetting after the fact. Make it a huge public spectacle, and make a lasting example out of these motherfuckers.
What is there to investigate? He did it. Everybody saw it from many different camera angles. He wasn’t in danger. It’s a slam dunk. He has a right to a speedy trial. Let’s give it to him.
Minnesota need to pick up Jonathan Ross and Charge him with Murder like Yesterday because there is no Ambiguity on the facts of the Situation Renee Nicole Good was executed on Camera
Minnesota must charge this man with murder or we are no longer even attempting to live under the rule of law.
Good! Sadly, the FBI is hopelessly compromised under the „leadership“ of Keystone Kash and ICE Barbie💩💩
too little too late
walz had a chance to have the murderer arrested. he chose to let him walk free
https://youtu.be/NkhWwlKsl4E?si=Z4zAJbzXr6maFF1P
I remember when republicans used to criticize the federal government for overstepping states rights.
I don’t even know what a “Republican” is anymore
I hear the FBI is withholding evidence.
Well fuck em. There is enough evidence in the public domain already to indict and convict.
Nice one!
She resisted hit officer with car got shot not the first time this exact thing has happened
Governors need to start raising state militias now before Republicans tell their brownshirts they can just murder all of us at will.
The rest of the country should take notes. The feds only care about themselves, not the average citizen. The ICE murder of a mother in MN and the subsequent coverup prove that beyond a doubt.
The only way we will survive this is if we take care of things ourselves.
Good now put a Warrant out for the Shooter.