We are the EU too though, that’s the fucking point.
fedupofbrick on
But not Poland and France?
Floodzie on
I predict the EU will have forgotten in the next 36 hours when Trump does the next outrageous thing.
redrover1978- on
Ireland aren’t disappointed though! Def don’t want imported beef from south America where it’s not traceable
TheCunningFool on
Our rejection is irrelevant though yes? As there is a qualified majority approving it.
Marcus_Suridius on
Boo hoo.
Minimum_Holiday_5611 on
EU don’t want individual countries making their own choices they want to be a country.
edit: oh look im getting downvoted for speaking truth. well suck it.
Miss_Kitami on
They can pound sand.
Natural-Ad773 on
To be fair it’s a very unlike Ireland to be against a free trade deal that in reality I think most of the political elite do support but they see a way to save face here domestically and not rock the boat on a European level. Pretty good politicking.
WringedSponge on
A bunch of countries, including France and Poland also opposed this.
The “EU” are not “disappointed”. This is not good journalism.
NeoTravel on
It will likely pass, but it’s not entirely all doom and gloom. Europe cannot rely on the US anymore to be a sane, reliable trading partner
The harsh reality is that the world is changing, and it would be foolish now at this juncture, to not open up to new trading partners in South America.
The core point made for Ireland on beef imports is a bit overblown. The Mercosur-EU trade deal has a capped maximum of 99K tonnes per year of beef at the lower tariff. That represents 1.5% of total beef production across the entire union per year. Anything above that is imported under the current, high tariff regime (up to 55%).
Irish consumers are highly sensitive to Irish-origin beef, so it’s highly unlikely that such products would even be popular here. You’re certainly not going to see an influx of Amazonian beef on the shelves of your local supermarket that’s for sure.
daveirl on
Unsurprising as we’re an extremely open economy that relies on free trade. Letting the tiny farming sector dominate this debate and set policy over a small part of the deal is policy mistake.
WilsonWaits2 on
I know the farming part of the deal is actually only small, but it is important nonetheless.
If anything we should be aiming for a world of more expensive meat, of a higher quality and with greater enforcement of animal welfare standards, rather than the opposite
qwerty_1965 on
Reject deal but keep on polluting thanks to EU Farmers in Ireland.
omgmy on
„said to be“ – who said it? This is a real daily express, ragebait type of headline.
Any_Comparison_3716 on
Ridiculous headline.
What „EU“? The Commission? Fellow members states? The Parliament? Or some faceless bureaucrat on the way to their next lobbyist role?
It’s a stupid deal, full of risks in time of global Risk.
TwistedPepperCan on
They’re not angry at us, they’re just disappointed in us.
Would ya feck off.
ArcherVisible5866 on
Can’t wait for the man boobs I’ll be getting from all this estrogen pumped meat
HumbleNarcissists on
What is everyone’s opinion on this? Support or not?
kewthewer on
I know it does, I’ve read it. But the trust is an issue. I’m not going to argue about that, just not willing to argue about it when hormone treated beef has already been found here. I obviously won’t be buying the beef, but my concern is that it gets into the food chain here unbeknownst. Food production companies can cut corners and it’s in the chain then, for cheaper foods. It’s not about me, I’m picky about my own food, I’m concerned from the public health standpoint.
And I take your point about the fishing industry but this isn’t Brexit, nowhere near the same scale of risk, no racism etc. It’s gone through now, fair enough, we’re entitled to have concerns and to say no to these things.
nynikai on
‚The EU will remember that‘
Be_like_Rudiger on
„EU said to be disappointed over Irish Mercosur rejection“.
Are we, as a member state, not the EU?
Honestly, this stuff, this perception that individual member states going against the broader consensus in Brussels at times is worthy of ridicule, always smacks of hubris from EU technocrats. Like the EU is supposed to be a continent wide democratic program, not just smaller states towing the line of the bigger states in the block.
Like shouldn’t this type of divergent opinion kinda be expected.
Anyway, just reminds me of the vibe during Lisbon 2. „Oh you didn’t vote right the first time, vote again till you give us the correct answer.“
nynikai on
I think the EU is smart enough to realise Ireland and other countries tactfully voted no when they knew they could get away with voting no, and have the deal sail through regardless. Countries like France and Italy took the pain to vote yes, which I’m sure the realpolitik was more acutely about. No doubt they’ll be benefitted significantly as a result of that, whereas Ireland and Poland etc will get non preferential treatment (I don’t just mean for mercoser related things)
DannyVandal on
Stupid question but would the imported shite be labelled?
InfectedAztec on
As they should be. We’re not team players but will still reap the benefits our Mercosur with all the pharma and medical devices we’ll sell. Not to mention our food and drink exports should do better to.
All because rhe beef lobby didnt want to open up 1.5% of the European Market to fair competition (the imported beef still has to adhere to EU standards).
Any_Necessary_9588 on
Hey I’m disappointed that the EU turn a blind eye to the absolute fucking rinsing we get on cars with VRT here so let’s call it even 😆
fluffs-von on
RTE stirring the imaginary excitement bucket again.
AllezLesPrimrose on
I mean they know we probably would have voted yes if it was the deciding vote. It’s a slow news day when the journos and technocrats are coming out with this.
NocturneFogg on
Government is propped up by rural independents and aspects of FF and FG are very close to farming, beef and daisy lobbies.
The government also knew it would pass comfortably, so it’s just gives them the ability to present it as a „careful now! Down with that sort of thing!“ half hearted protest.
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We are the EU too though, that’s the fucking point.
But not Poland and France?
I predict the EU will have forgotten in the next 36 hours when Trump does the next outrageous thing.
Ireland aren’t disappointed though! Def don’t want imported beef from south America where it’s not traceable
Our rejection is irrelevant though yes? As there is a qualified majority approving it.
Boo hoo.
EU don’t want individual countries making their own choices they want to be a country.
edit: oh look im getting downvoted for speaking truth. well suck it.
They can pound sand.
To be fair it’s a very unlike Ireland to be against a free trade deal that in reality I think most of the political elite do support but they see a way to save face here domestically and not rock the boat on a European level. Pretty good politicking.
A bunch of countries, including France and Poland also opposed this.
The “EU” are not “disappointed”. This is not good journalism.
It will likely pass, but it’s not entirely all doom and gloom. Europe cannot rely on the US anymore to be a sane, reliable trading partner
The harsh reality is that the world is changing, and it would be foolish now at this juncture, to not open up to new trading partners in South America.
The core point made for Ireland on beef imports is a bit overblown. The Mercosur-EU trade deal has a capped maximum of 99K tonnes per year of beef at the lower tariff. That represents 1.5% of total beef production across the entire union per year. Anything above that is imported under the current, high tariff regime (up to 55%).
Irish consumers are highly sensitive to Irish-origin beef, so it’s highly unlikely that such products would even be popular here. You’re certainly not going to see an influx of Amazonian beef on the shelves of your local supermarket that’s for sure.
Unsurprising as we’re an extremely open economy that relies on free trade. Letting the tiny farming sector dominate this debate and set policy over a small part of the deal is policy mistake.
I know the farming part of the deal is actually only small, but it is important nonetheless.
If anything we should be aiming for a world of more expensive meat, of a higher quality and with greater enforcement of animal welfare standards, rather than the opposite
Reject deal but keep on polluting thanks to EU Farmers in Ireland.
„said to be“ – who said it? This is a real daily express, ragebait type of headline.
Ridiculous headline.
What „EU“? The Commission? Fellow members states? The Parliament? Or some faceless bureaucrat on the way to their next lobbyist role?
It’s a stupid deal, full of risks in time of global Risk.
They’re not angry at us, they’re just disappointed in us.
Would ya feck off.
Can’t wait for the man boobs I’ll be getting from all this estrogen pumped meat
What is everyone’s opinion on this? Support or not?
I know it does, I’ve read it. But the trust is an issue. I’m not going to argue about that, just not willing to argue about it when hormone treated beef has already been found here. I obviously won’t be buying the beef, but my concern is that it gets into the food chain here unbeknownst. Food production companies can cut corners and it’s in the chain then, for cheaper foods. It’s not about me, I’m picky about my own food, I’m concerned from the public health standpoint.
And I take your point about the fishing industry but this isn’t Brexit, nowhere near the same scale of risk, no racism etc. It’s gone through now, fair enough, we’re entitled to have concerns and to say no to these things.
‚The EU will remember that‘
„EU said to be disappointed over Irish Mercosur rejection“.
Are we, as a member state, not the EU?
Honestly, this stuff, this perception that individual member states going against the broader consensus in Brussels at times is worthy of ridicule, always smacks of hubris from EU technocrats. Like the EU is supposed to be a continent wide democratic program, not just smaller states towing the line of the bigger states in the block.
Like shouldn’t this type of divergent opinion kinda be expected.
Anyway, just reminds me of the vibe during Lisbon 2. „Oh you didn’t vote right the first time, vote again till you give us the correct answer.“
I think the EU is smart enough to realise Ireland and other countries tactfully voted no when they knew they could get away with voting no, and have the deal sail through regardless. Countries like France and Italy took the pain to vote yes, which I’m sure the realpolitik was more acutely about. No doubt they’ll be benefitted significantly as a result of that, whereas Ireland and Poland etc will get non preferential treatment (I don’t just mean for mercoser related things)
Stupid question but would the imported shite be labelled?
As they should be. We’re not team players but will still reap the benefits our Mercosur with all the pharma and medical devices we’ll sell. Not to mention our food and drink exports should do better to.
All because rhe beef lobby didnt want to open up 1.5% of the European Market to fair competition (the imported beef still has to adhere to EU standards).
Hey I’m disappointed that the EU turn a blind eye to the absolute fucking rinsing we get on cars with VRT here so let’s call it even 😆
RTE stirring the imaginary excitement bucket again.
I mean they know we probably would have voted yes if it was the deciding vote. It’s a slow news day when the journos and technocrats are coming out with this.
Government is propped up by rural independents and aspects of FF and FG are very close to farming, beef and daisy lobbies.
The government also knew it would pass comfortably, so it’s just gives them the ability to present it as a „careful now! Down with that sort of thing!“ half hearted protest.