Idk why this is even a discussion. Sentences should be even higher for non-Canadians imo, coming to a country as a guest and committing a crime is worse than doing it as a local.
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EugeneWPG on
Do you know why the UAE is one of the safest countries in the world, despite the fact that more than half of its population consists of temporary workers and immigrants? Because the authorities make it very clear that living and working there is a privilege, not a right, and that privilege can be revoked for even minor criminal behaviour.
In contrast, Canada sends the opposite signal. Lenient sentencing, weak enforcement, and hesitation to remove non-citizen offenders create incentives that criminals notice. That is how you end up with crime tourism, not because Canada was always unsafe, but because policies have made it increasingly attractive to those willing to exploit them.
anacondatmz on
Sentences should be even for all, regardless of skin color or religion, or even where they’re from. What should differ in sentencing is that those who are here temporarily, or working towards becoming a Canadian citizen should be deported once their sentence is up.
It’s gotten to a point now where if you were born and raised in Canada, and get a full sentence, you should probably look to appeal on grounds of discrimination.
explosive_fascinator on
The whole idea of deportation being considered part of the crimes‘ punishment that the judge decides, is wrong.
If you have committed a serious enough crime, you have simply failed to earn the privilege of immigrating. Which is why that rule was made by immigration.
It’s beyond me why criminal counts seem to think they should be overriding immigration policy that they know nothing about. Thier role in immigration is simply to impartially judge criminality, so the people who know what they are doing can decide.
luv2fly781 on
Pardon. Yes it does. Bu bye 👋🏻
You commit crime while trying to get in. First flight out Gone forever
Grrreysweater on
This will not change under Sean Fraser
Chevettez06 on
How is this even a thing?! Two tiered sentences are pathetic and show how weak we are as a country.
Treat everyone the damn same.
What benefits are there to having criminals stay in our country if they’re not originally from here? Send them home to do time in their own prisons, on their own tax dollars. I want my taxes going to education and hospitals first. Let’s actually benefit Canada for once …
Hot_Restaurant_7408 on
No shit. This kinda stuff is why were a laughing stock.
ILikeVancouver on
The idea of someone getting to commit crimes and still continue the process towards pr/citizenship is absolutely insane. Either behave as a model citizen or you do not get to become one. We have enough home grown criminals to manage that we sure as hell don’t need to import more.
Pr0066 on
This shouldn’t even be a thing. I have no clue why these judges are such bleeding hearts.
If anything – anyone committing any sort of serious crime should be an automatic deportation after serving sentence. There is a reason why we are looked as a soft country and people take advantage of the system here.
There should be ZERO tolerance towards any crime and that is coming from a naturalized citizen. It’s pathetic that people bring their disgusting behavior, poor mentality and crime to Canada.
drewc99 on
If anything, punishments should be more severe, not less, if someone decides to visit a country and commit crimes there.
shogun2909 on
Le Canada est *soft*
WarmScientist5297 on
It should be illegal to consider. Blame the lawyers and the judges.
modsaretoddlers on
Why in the world do we *want* people who can’t follow the law?
R4ID on
As usual the Gov has it backwards, it should be a higher sentence for anyone who is a Non-Canadian committing crimes
toilet_for_shrek on
Too bad the LPC is probably going to collectively vote against C-220. Why they’re so desperate to keep criminal non-citizens in the country, I don’t understand.
alphawolf29 on
literally who will argue against this in public?
Golf-Hotel on
I think if you go to someone’s country and commit a crime, you should be punished worse than if you were from that country.
TendieRetard on
that would in fact be the non-supremacist approach, yes.
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Idk why this is even a discussion. Sentences should be even higher for non-Canadians imo, coming to a country as a guest and committing a crime is worse than doing it as a local.
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Do you know why the UAE is one of the safest countries in the world, despite the fact that more than half of its population consists of temporary workers and immigrants? Because the authorities make it very clear that living and working there is a privilege, not a right, and that privilege can be revoked for even minor criminal behaviour.
In contrast, Canada sends the opposite signal. Lenient sentencing, weak enforcement, and hesitation to remove non-citizen offenders create incentives that criminals notice. That is how you end up with crime tourism, not because Canada was always unsafe, but because policies have made it increasingly attractive to those willing to exploit them.
Sentences should be even for all, regardless of skin color or religion, or even where they’re from. What should differ in sentencing is that those who are here temporarily, or working towards becoming a Canadian citizen should be deported once their sentence is up.
It’s gotten to a point now where if you were born and raised in Canada, and get a full sentence, you should probably look to appeal on grounds of discrimination.
The whole idea of deportation being considered part of the crimes‘ punishment that the judge decides, is wrong.
If you have committed a serious enough crime, you have simply failed to earn the privilege of immigrating. Which is why that rule was made by immigration.
It’s beyond me why criminal counts seem to think they should be overriding immigration policy that they know nothing about. Thier role in immigration is simply to impartially judge criminality, so the people who know what they are doing can decide.
Pardon. Yes it does. Bu bye 👋🏻
You commit crime while trying to get in. First flight out Gone forever
This will not change under Sean Fraser
How is this even a thing?! Two tiered sentences are pathetic and show how weak we are as a country.
Treat everyone the damn same.
What benefits are there to having criminals stay in our country if they’re not originally from here? Send them home to do time in their own prisons, on their own tax dollars. I want my taxes going to education and hospitals first. Let’s actually benefit Canada for once …
No shit. This kinda stuff is why were a laughing stock.
The idea of someone getting to commit crimes and still continue the process towards pr/citizenship is absolutely insane. Either behave as a model citizen or you do not get to become one. We have enough home grown criminals to manage that we sure as hell don’t need to import more.
This shouldn’t even be a thing. I have no clue why these judges are such bleeding hearts.
If anything – anyone committing any sort of serious crime should be an automatic deportation after serving sentence. There is a reason why we are looked as a soft country and people take advantage of the system here.
There should be ZERO tolerance towards any crime and that is coming from a naturalized citizen. It’s pathetic that people bring their disgusting behavior, poor mentality and crime to Canada.
If anything, punishments should be more severe, not less, if someone decides to visit a country and commit crimes there.
Le Canada est *soft*
It should be illegal to consider. Blame the lawyers and the judges.
Why in the world do we *want* people who can’t follow the law?
As usual the Gov has it backwards, it should be a higher sentence for anyone who is a Non-Canadian committing crimes
Too bad the LPC is probably going to collectively vote against C-220. Why they’re so desperate to keep criminal non-citizens in the country, I don’t understand.
literally who will argue against this in public?
I think if you go to someone’s country and commit a crime, you should be punished worse than if you were from that country.
that would in fact be the non-supremacist approach, yes.