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    Diese Flagge der Konföderierten wurde auf der Insel Nord-Arneya gefunden


    Weiß jemand, warum irgendjemand in Norwegen diese Flagge hisst??? Dieses Bild entstand in diesem Sommer, als meine Familie einen Ausflug in die Heimat meiner Mutter unternahm. Der Berg Sandhornoya ist im Hintergrund.

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    Von Fickle_Mixture8440

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    1. Dr_Philmon on

      Most likely a „redneck“ as they tend to overexaggerate on anything redneck.

    2. ChuckYeager1 on

      It’s not unlikely that this flag is flown by someone who doesn’t understand what it means to many Americans.

      Many naive Norwegians think it’s just a rebel flag, and they want to think they are rebels so there.

    5. busterkeatonrules on

      Norwegian here. Bikers, hotrodders, and fans of certain music (country and/or old-school rock) tend to like that flag for the ‚rebel‘ aspect rather than anything to do with racism. (Actual racists are more likely to go for Viking/Germannic symbolism.)

    6. fluency on

      To many rural Norwegians, the confederate flag is a celebration of independence, personal freedom and a „positive poverty“ kind of redneck culture, rather than a symbol of racism.

      That’s not to say that the people who fly this flag can’t be racist shitheads, but they most likely aren’t consciously using the flag as a way to express that.

    9. VeryLargeTardigrade on

      I know a couple that always has this flag up, they say it’s not racist or anything like that, it’s just a redneck american thing and they like american country music and american cars that use a lot of gas. I guess it’s just a coincident they are both raging racists.

    10. Illustrious_Music_66 on

      Confederate flag a symbol embraced by failures in life 😆 It represents racism and usually weak men who lean to ignorance hard.

    11. Slow-Release8111 on

      Some foreigners don’t know the meaning and dark history behind this flag, or they do know and are just plain ignorant, but funny thing is the south lost the civil war so basically they’re proudly waving a flag of surrender and being a loser lol…

    13. RyloBreedo on

      Just weird. Also, one time someone in the US complained about a house flying a Norwegian flag because they thought it was this Confederate flag.

    14. Ok-Goose-746 on

      Its not uncommon on the countryside, its a flag used in a lot of country music. Its associated with «Texas, cowboys, guns and amcars». Don’t overthink it

    17. TolerateButHate on

      I went to Norway for a school a few years ago, and I remember seeing a house absolutely covered in Confederate flags and Texas merch. Very strange thing to see when you’re rail biking near Flekkefjord.

    21. Own-Resource221 on

      American Norwegian… confederate flag indicates some hint of racism in them

    24. pretty_iconic on

      There is a guy at my son’s barnehage (daycare), who picks up/drops off his kid in a car with a big confederate flag thing hanging from his rearview mirror. He is Norwegian and I am American.

      It is very jarring every time I see it… I haven’t really talked to him before other than “hi” in passing, but I just assume he has to racist 🤷‍♀️

    26. Complex-Challenge374 on

      To anyone saying that the people flying this flag doesn’t really understand its meaning, I believe you are a bit naive. Yes, it might be true that they really don’t understand the deep political and cultural context of civil war USA, and that this flag is used as a sort of symbol of old school American values and even in some cases being a rebel. But if you ask any of these people (in private) what they think about black/brown people, even immigrants, they will probably align politically with the people who flies the flag in the US.

    27. Goggelheim on

      it is somehow an interesting phenomenon. As you probably already know norwegians in general really love the United States of America. At least until Trump happened. We are family and after ww2 US became the hero and guarantor of freedom. At the same time norwegians became very open to american culture. The interest in american culture had been there for a century already. But in many ways America disappointed already towards the end of the 19th century. USA did not become the democracy one had hoped for, the land that was supposed to secure the rights of workers and ordinary people. Instead came the idea of „the dream“ , everybody was born with with a ticket in the success lottery, and the country did not overcome the violence with which the country was founded but instead cultivated a perverse fascination for a particularly sadistic type of violence accompanied by a sick weapon fetishism. This was clear to Norwegian intellectuals already 125 years ago. Norwegian intellectuals lost hope and the excessive interest in the US. But mass culture, film and western novels aroused a new interest in among the lower educated classes. For them USA became a kind of symbol for something else. A country where things were simple. A country where education did not mean anything, a country where it was cool to be racist. A place where you could smoke, drink and swear and still be respected. Yes „the Virginia battle flag“ stands for the same thing in Norway as in the US. It’s pro-slavery and racism, a kind of lightly disguised swastika.

    29. Daxoss on

      I think it’s good. Let’s you know in no uncertain terms from a long distance that they’re assholes that should be avoided

    30. Cheb1337 on

      I want to believe this was hung up by someone with really bad eyesight who thought it was the flag of Norway lol

    31. DepressedEngineering on

      These the guys raging about foreign flags being at full mast during our national holiday in Norway.

      For reference the only foreign influence in Norway is Americana, and it’s cringe af

    32. housewithablouse on

      It’s a super-cringe thing you can find all over Europe. To be honest, it usually doesn’t have the exact same political connotation it has in the US, it’s mainly stupid people who don’t think about how offensive this must be to Americans travelling Europe. Just like in the US, conservative „rebels“ like to use it as a symbol of themselves being outsiders in modern society. But of course the flag itself doesn’t bear any political significance in Europe, I guess it’s just supposed to be a vague reminiscence to redneck culture, without explicitely referencing the slavery nation.

    33. nanuen on

      Som regel bruker folk det fordi det ikke er „innafor“ å flagge med hakekors. Også unnskylder de det ved å si de er „rednecks“. De er bare for feige til å si hva de -egentlig- mener. Eller for dumme.. or both..

    34. DecadeOfLurking on

      The few people I know who have this flag anywhere are men with an affinity for old cars, beer, cigarettes and raggarock. They genuinely see it as harmless and think of it as a redneck thing that tells people they like to drive around and play loud music in their cars.

      It might be in your blood to assume the worst, but *most* people outside the US who use this flag aren’t using it in the same context people in the US would. This is basically a result of the mass export of media and culture from the US.

      Honestly, it’s kinda similar to the Brigitte Bardot situation, where most people have heard about her, but almost nobody knew anything about her other than her being an actress and sex symbol. Some knew about her animal rights activism, but the minority knew anything about her degenerate political views before she died. She was „exported“ for her looks and association with sophisticated French sultry vibes, while the southern flag was exported as a redneck hillbilly symbol, even if that wasn’t the intention, and thus that’s what people thought they were all over the world.

      Do I think it would be better if people learned more about the symbolism they associate themselves with? **Yes.**

      Do I think these people are automatically evil racists who are wielding this flag as a threat? **No.**

      Even if you did successfully argue that everyone who doesn’t know something you know are stupid and racist, that doesn’t take away from the fact that your country sold this redneck idea in the first place, **and still do.**

      Hope this helps.

    35. Macias712 on

      Since this was never the “official” confederate flag, people in the south now use it as a symbol of “southern pride” not necessarily supporting the confederacy whatsoever. Apparently everyone else outside the US views it that way as well

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