Hey! Ich bin derzeit am Flughafen München und habe 5 Stunden Verspätung zu meinem Amsterdam-Flug. Da dies bereits meine Umbuchung ist, habe ich eine Frage. Ich muss so schnell wie möglich in den Niederlanden sein, aber ich muss nicht per se in Amsterdam sein. Die NS (niederländisches nationales Zugsystem) ist völlig ausgefallen, daher habe ich vor, mit der DB zu reisen und auf meinen Flug zu verzichten. Ist DIESE Route mit der DB zuverlässig genug, um mich an mein Ziel zu bringen, oder werde ich weiterhin in Deutschland stecken bleiben?

    EDIT: Nachdem ich alle Ratschläge sorgfältig gelesen hatte (vielen Dank), habe ich beschlossen, erst einmal den Flug zu nehmen und von dort aus zu sehen. Da einige von Ihnen vielleicht nicht wissen, warum ich zu diesem Schluss gekommen bin: Schiphol, der Amsterdamer Flughafen, hat aufgrund von Wetterproblemen Flüge über das Wochenende gestrichen und bis zum JETZT Dienstag verlängert. Mein Flug gestern wurde annulliert, dies ist eine Umbuchung. Dies ist einer der wenigen ZWEI Flüge, die heute noch von München nach Amsterdam fliegen. Das ist mehr als die 0 am Vortag. Heutzutage ist es jedoch nicht ungewöhnlich, dass Menschen stundenlang warten, bis ihre Flüge leider gestrichen werden … Daher ist Schiphol ein höllischer Ort, um in Rn zu sein …

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    1. BurnerBowie on

      You must be really desperate to abandon a flight for a journey with DB during snowfall…

    2. I would recommend using the official DB website to look for a fitting route.

    3. DrProfSrRyan on

      The most important part is the time between connections. DB is almost always some amount late. If the connection requires you to run to another platform as soon as you arrive, DB will make sure you never get the chance.

      Look for connections around 1hr to be safe. 

    4. Reading „DB“ and „reliable“ in the same sentence made me giggle. Especially in combination with the need to be somewhere asap. If I were you I wouldnt risk it tbh.

    5. vogelvogelvogelvogel on

      go [bahn.de](http://bahn.de) (or DB navigator app)

      calculate like 60% trains are only on time

      so when changes are, you might need to catch the following train (many run like hourly). very good plan is to check when the next train runs or plan times for changing trains longer (works both on website and app)

      but: Dutch railways are suspended with switch malfunctions, idk what runs there, [bahn.de](http://bahn.de) should know

    6. Just avoid the RE2 between Göttingen and Hannover. A few days ago a cargo train derailed and caused serious damage.
      From Kassel-Wilhelmshöhe take the RE11 to Altenbeken and get into the S5 to Hannover-Flughafen. It stops at Hannover Hauptbahnhof too.

    7. Take the flight or book a car. Flight is still going to be the faster option.

    8. yungsausages on

      I’d recommend you use the DB app to plan the route and not Google Maps, good luck. Must be in quite a mess to pick DB in the snow over a flight rip

    9. AdApart3821 on

      Taking the ICE to Hannover and then another ICE from Hannover towards Amsterdam certainly is more reliable than having lots of smaller trains with lots of stops and connections. Also, right now there is not so much snow forecast for today. However, nobody knows if it will work out. Meteorologists say the weather generally has the potential to cause hefty snow fall locally, it seems a bit instable.

      Also, as the Netherlands train system is down and could stay so until you arrive at the border, it is quiet possible that you will not be able to travel the last leg towards the Netherlands even if everything works out fine in Germany. It is also not sure you would be able to rent a car in NorthWestern Germany to go to the Netherlands, as car rentals tend to be sold out if the train system fails because of weather.

      Personally, I would probably expect the airport in Amsterdam to be cleared faster than you would be able to travel to the Netherlands by train from Munich Airport, but I can’t know of course, and even if the airport is cleared then still a lot of planes and passengers will be stuck where they do not belong, so your flight might even be canceled.

      I think if I were in Munich needing to go to Amsterdam as quick as possible I would probably try to take a train to Hannover and reevaluate there – possibly getting a rental car there or in Bremen or Osnabrück to get to the Netherlands if the train system is still not working then.

    10. so let’s recap:
      – the trains are out
      – you have a flight in 5 hours
      – so you want to take multiple trains for 9 hours
      – all of which will be late because the DB doesn’t know about the concept of weather
      – none of which will be waiting because the DB doesn’t care about you

      take that flight. then rent a car or take a bus or even taxi from amsterdam.

    11. > The NS (Dutch national train system) is all litterally down, so I plan on travelling via DB

      So how are you going to get from the border to wherever it is you need to be going?

      > will I further get stuck in Germany?

      If the Dutch rail network is down, it’s likely there will be serious issues on the German side near the border. And we can’t predict what effects the weather will have: heavy snowfalls could bring trees down onto the line, ice could damage the catenaries or freeze up points, anything can happen.

    12. Crow-Ashamed on

      You will most likely get stuck with db at some point. Unfortunately the flight is your safest option

    13. You may get into the worse trouble with Deutsche Bahn and get much longer delay.

    14. Chocolat_Melon on

      Well you’re not gonna make it in time using German Railway that’s for sure. I guess your best bet would be to find a long haul taxi but that’s also iffy and going to be insanely expensive.

    15. MrDrunkenKnight on

      Flixbus? However it’s not so comfortable to sit in the bus for 12 hours or so… but there are tickets for about 60-70€

    16. alexanderslash on

      Hi, we are in Amsterdam right now. All flights are cancelled to and from Amsterdam. we waited for 2 days in the airport, and we had only promises. I suggest flying to Brussels and coming by train or car from there

    17. The Hannover Area and generally northern Germany has quite some problems because of the snow, you have to expect delays and train cancellations. At least that was the case with our trains yesterday.

    18. lostmylogindetails2 on

      Take the Cologne flight if possible, you may then have more alternatives to reach NL. Bla bla, rent a car, train, bus.

    19. Straight_Page_8585 on

      I think the most reliable way will be to rent a car and drive that distance yourself.

    20. Vivid_Wallaby9728 on

      Why not take a flight close to the border?

      For example Münster Osnabrück or Bremen.

      From Bremen to Leer works fine by train. Yes some cancellations but also a lot of regional trains.

    21. Check for flixbus. It’s slow, but cheap but it will arrive.

      My real advice: wait for your flight. 

    22. ExplanationDeep7468 on

      Nah, take a flight. Trains in Germany are unreliable especially in such weather conditions.

    23. I would check for a Flixbus or Blablacar. That’s actually more reliable than DB.

    24. Virtual_Letterhead93 on

      Got a drivers license? Hire a car – if you’re that much in a rush

    25. ICE connections are relatively reliable compared to other train options offered by DB AB.

      But one thing you can count on with DB is that you can’t.

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