“The Republican Party now wears Trump the way a carpet wears an oil spill. You can scrub, you can deodorize, you can rearrange the furniture, but the stain remains. Any successor must answer not only for Trump’s achievements, but also for the exhaustion he leaves behind. “
Simburgure on
Because charisma and a track record of actually running something beats vibes and meme books.
Diablo689er on
I see we are back to Kamala 2023 hype
broonribon on
Great, just what we need: another milquetoast centrist corporate democrat.
saanity on
Democrats about to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory again.
Additional_Cash_3357 on
his presidency would only slow the pace of America’s rot, but not halt it
aagejaeger on
I’ve been reading headlines like this for a decade. Those fuckers are still in charge, not prison.
0b_hapa on
Hard pass on the guy that cozied up with Steve Bannon and Charlie Kirk , opposes a billionaire tax , and vetoed AI regulation.
What a cool guy. I’m glad that our “saviors” continue to be corporate Dems who only care about public relations and donor dollars.
nedrith on
I hope I’m wrong, especially if Democrats try to run him in 2028, but I can’t see a Californian governor winning the presidential election. Even a lot of the more independent types I’ve talked to talk bad about California constantly. Republicans have done a great job at making California seem like a terrible place to live or even visit.
ToNoMoCo on
If for no other reason, and there are lots of other reasons, it’s because only Newsom’s hair appears greasy whereas Vance appears to have been formed entirely out of rancid butter.
Virbillion on
voter access has been rolled back. trump sycophants hold elector positions in every swing state. the next presidential race will be the most corrupt in US history.
we are not taking it back without a cultural movement that is undeniable.
i don’t believe Kimberly Guilfoyle’s ex-husband will be leading that cultural movement.
jayfeather31 on
At this point, I do not exactly appreciate the idea of fronting a centrist for the fourth consecutive time. We can do better than Newsom.
doonerthesooner on
Establishment Dems are gonna be shocked when he loses and progressives will be blamed somehow.
reject_fascism on
No Gavin Newsom.
toxic_badgers on
gross. Lets keep corpo dems out of national offices.
CyanCazador on
Most Democrats would crush Vance. But I’d be nice if we didn’t put up more establishment candidates.
buhlahkay10 on
Trump has no chance against Hillary etc etc
DocCEN007 on
Newsome needs to establish a record of supporting popular movements like affordability, taxes on the wealthy, and criminal justice reform. Otherwise, apathetic Dem voters will not leave their houses to vote. A la 2024.
NinjaMurse on
Simple. JD Vance is a pusillanimous piece of shit.
MajorAlanDutch on
They both suck
AntiOriginalUsername on
I’ll take one order of neither please.
TemporalColdWarrior on
Unless we get a new, more progressive, Gavin Newsom, let the primaries play out and try to find someone that represents change better.
Stunning_Lychee7501 on
Can we stop parading the first centrist who does the bare minimum out like they’re the chosen one? Newsom sucks beyond antagonizing Trump
AncientBee5348 on
Democrats obviously don’t want to win in 2028 if they continue to shove this egomaniac ambitious thug down our throats.
ManateeGag on
Because JD has the charisma of a turnip?
WillametteWanderer on
Whatever JD Vance’s real name is, he has the rare ability to suck all personality out of a room. He cannot possibly be the BEST the Republican’s have to offer.
bensquirrel on
hard pass
biblebeltbuckle2 on
What’s the saying about doing the same exact thing over and over and expecting different results? I’ve voted with the DNC and probably will keep doing so even as a leftist bc of harm reduction (slightly slowing the rate at which the ‘merican empire murders folks), but I live in the Deep South and can promise you this will fail immediately. Just run an ad with him partying during Covid and whatever shill the Republicans run wins by a landslide.
kindergentler on
I’ve voted for Democrats my entire adult life, but this crap is why I hate them almost as much as the out-right murderous, traitorous GOP. DNC leadership doesn’t want to push legislation to make things demonstratively better, they just want to distract with their flavor of useless buzzword crap and maybe throw some pathetic means-tested lip-service crumbs to us poors. The DNC serves two groups, neither of which are working-class Americans.
Vivid24 on
Please let it be anyone else but Gavin Newsom. It’s still 2025, we still have time to look for more candidates.
tgt305 on
In a free and fair election, no GOP would win
ItsSpaghettiLee2112 on
But we don’t want him. In 2028 liberals need to get out of their comfort zone in the primaries and vote progressive.
eyeb4lls on
Why overconfidence keeps biting the Democrats in the ass.
MrBigBMinus on
People thought the same thing about Hilary and Kamala and here we are. Its the issue with dems.
IJourden on
Vance has the charisma of a cum-stained couch and has the political aptitude of one too. Just about any candidate would crush Vance *on paper.*
But if the last ten years have shown anything, it’s that the mix of deep resentment, lack of education, and overwhelming propaganda has made it so that a significant chunk of the electorate will tolerate quite literally anything if it means not voting for someone with a (D) behind their name.
American federal elections are no longer about the strength of candidates, it’s about the strength of the propaganda machine behind them. For that reason alone, Vance shouldn’t be underestimated.
vs_sen on
If you don’t want to tax the rich or get people healthcare you shouldn’t even be in the conversation.
YOLO_Tamasi on
JD Vance isn’t going to be the nominee. He was the VP pick because he’d toe the line without threatening Trumps ego, but even Republicans see him as a spineless lackey. Maybe he’ll make a run at the primaries cause he’s too dumb to know that everyone thinks of him as a bobble head, but he’s not going to get anywhere.
ohheyimstillapieceof on
guys. stop running these moderate people. we need left wing populism. we need a nationwide zohran!
BritSpic on
I am sick to my stomach of these corporate Dems who act holier than thou, yet do not give 2 fucks about actually changing people’s lives. They are the reason why we got Trump TWICE.
attomsk on
Gavin newsom is not the answer
PurpleWhiteOut on
Please, no Newsom or Josh Shapiro I am BEGGING
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“The Republican Party now wears Trump the way a carpet wears an oil spill. You can scrub, you can deodorize, you can rearrange the furniture, but the stain remains. Any successor must answer not only for Trump’s achievements, but also for the exhaustion he leaves behind. “
Because charisma and a track record of actually running something beats vibes and meme books.
I see we are back to Kamala 2023 hype
Great, just what we need: another milquetoast centrist corporate democrat.
Democrats about to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory again.
his presidency would only slow the pace of America’s rot, but not halt it
I’ve been reading headlines like this for a decade. Those fuckers are still in charge, not prison.
Hard pass on the guy that cozied up with Steve Bannon and Charlie Kirk , opposes a billionaire tax , and vetoed AI regulation.
Gavin Newsom? The same Gavin Newsom who signed [AB 715](https://aclucalaction.org/bill/ab-715-oppose/) to protect Israel from criticism in public schools? The one who [vetoed a trans health care bill](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-10-17/newsom-vetoes-key-health-measure-transgender-politics) and [criticized trans athletes in sports](https://calmatters.org/politics/2025/03/newsom-transgender-athletes/)? The guy who loves to hear himself talk but [malfunctioned when questioned about AIPAC](https://katv.com/news/nation-world/gov-newsom-has-awkward-reaction-during-podcast-interview-when-host-discusses-aipac-thomas-massie-marjorie-taylor-greene-matt-gaetz)?
What a cool guy. I’m glad that our “saviors” continue to be corporate Dems who only care about public relations and donor dollars.
I hope I’m wrong, especially if Democrats try to run him in 2028, but I can’t see a Californian governor winning the presidential election. Even a lot of the more independent types I’ve talked to talk bad about California constantly. Republicans have done a great job at making California seem like a terrible place to live or even visit.
If for no other reason, and there are lots of other reasons, it’s because only Newsom’s hair appears greasy whereas Vance appears to have been formed entirely out of rancid butter.
voter access has been rolled back. trump sycophants hold elector positions in every swing state. the next presidential race will be the most corrupt in US history.
we are not taking it back without a cultural movement that is undeniable.
i don’t believe Kimberly Guilfoyle’s ex-husband will be leading that cultural movement.
At this point, I do not exactly appreciate the idea of fronting a centrist for the fourth consecutive time. We can do better than Newsom.
Establishment Dems are gonna be shocked when he loses and progressives will be blamed somehow.
No Gavin Newsom.
gross. Lets keep corpo dems out of national offices.
Most Democrats would crush Vance. But I’d be nice if we didn’t put up more establishment candidates.
Trump has no chance against Hillary etc etc
Newsome needs to establish a record of supporting popular movements like affordability, taxes on the wealthy, and criminal justice reform. Otherwise, apathetic Dem voters will not leave their houses to vote. A la 2024.
Simple. JD Vance is a pusillanimous piece of shit.
They both suck
I’ll take one order of neither please.
Unless we get a new, more progressive, Gavin Newsom, let the primaries play out and try to find someone that represents change better.
Can we stop parading the first centrist who does the bare minimum out like they’re the chosen one? Newsom sucks beyond antagonizing Trump
Democrats obviously don’t want to win in 2028 if they continue to shove this egomaniac ambitious thug down our throats.
Because JD has the charisma of a turnip?
Whatever JD Vance’s real name is, he has the rare ability to suck all personality out of a room. He cannot possibly be the BEST the Republican’s have to offer.
hard pass
What’s the saying about doing the same exact thing over and over and expecting different results? I’ve voted with the DNC and probably will keep doing so even as a leftist bc of harm reduction (slightly slowing the rate at which the ‘merican empire murders folks), but I live in the Deep South and can promise you this will fail immediately. Just run an ad with him partying during Covid and whatever shill the Republicans run wins by a landslide.
I’ve voted for Democrats my entire adult life, but this crap is why I hate them almost as much as the out-right murderous, traitorous GOP. DNC leadership doesn’t want to push legislation to make things demonstratively better, they just want to distract with their flavor of useless buzzword crap and maybe throw some pathetic means-tested lip-service crumbs to us poors. The DNC serves two groups, neither of which are working-class Americans.
Please let it be anyone else but Gavin Newsom. It’s still 2025, we still have time to look for more candidates.
In a free and fair election, no GOP would win
But we don’t want him. In 2028 liberals need to get out of their comfort zone in the primaries and vote progressive.
Why overconfidence keeps biting the Democrats in the ass.
People thought the same thing about Hilary and Kamala and here we are. Its the issue with dems.
Vance has the charisma of a cum-stained couch and has the political aptitude of one too. Just about any candidate would crush Vance *on paper.*
But if the last ten years have shown anything, it’s that the mix of deep resentment, lack of education, and overwhelming propaganda has made it so that a significant chunk of the electorate will tolerate quite literally anything if it means not voting for someone with a (D) behind their name.
American federal elections are no longer about the strength of candidates, it’s about the strength of the propaganda machine behind them. For that reason alone, Vance shouldn’t be underestimated.
If you don’t want to tax the rich or get people healthcare you shouldn’t even be in the conversation.
JD Vance isn’t going to be the nominee. He was the VP pick because he’d toe the line without threatening Trumps ego, but even Republicans see him as a spineless lackey. Maybe he’ll make a run at the primaries cause he’s too dumb to know that everyone thinks of him as a bobble head, but he’s not going to get anywhere.
guys. stop running these moderate people. we need left wing populism. we need a nationwide zohran!
I am sick to my stomach of these corporate Dems who act holier than thou, yet do not give 2 fucks about actually changing people’s lives. They are the reason why we got Trump TWICE.
Gavin newsom is not the answer
Please, no Newsom or Josh Shapiro I am BEGGING