Das Schlachtschiff der „Trump-Klasse“ steht vor einem großen Hindernis: der Realität
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/26/trump-class-battleship-uss-defiant-golden-fleet-rail-gun-laser-reality-defense-war-experts-skeptical.html?__source=androidappshare
Das Schlachtschiff der „Trump-Klasse“ steht vor einem großen Hindernis: der Realität
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/26/trump-class-battleship-uss-defiant-golden-fleet-rail-gun-laser-reality-defense-war-experts-skeptical.html?__source=androidappshare
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His ballroom on the high seas! Yarrr!!!
The ballroom is in the same boat.
I feel like news organizations should stop assuming these massive expenditures the Trump admin announces are in good faith rather than just funneling money to his fascist and billionaire allies, since virtually no big project he has announced has ever been completed.
How is this moron still in office? The current congress don’t give a shit about the people they serve.
It will be designated the TACO class and be on display in the trump library in russia, russia, russia.
This guy is so tacky.
So we are going to spend billions for giant slow artillery stations. The survival of them is short in any kind of all out war. I was a navy firefighter and even carriers are just big slow targets with one job. Air superiority. Battleships are a first strike platform.
not a single one will be built, commissioned or sailed. This is just a grift. If we ever return to the rule of law any contractor who takes money for this should face criminal charges and be run out of the MIC.
The Navy has already stated that these would not even be started until 2030, so my hope is that this is another Trump wet dream.
Days like this make me glad i left teaching.
Imagine having to grade papers in “post-truth” United States of Grift.
I would immediately go out and buy a remote control boat form radio shack to sink the “Trump Class” ships
My take: He was briefed on the DDG(x) program just ran with it. He made it about himself as usual. He wants to call it a battleship but doctrinally it is not one.
The Navy is looking to upgrade the current DDGs But is so early they are just getting the requirements down.
https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/IF/PDF/IF11679/IF11679.53.pdf#:~:text=Program%20Designation%20and%20Lead%20Ship%20Procurement%20In,end%20sometime%20after%20procurement%20of%20DDG(X)s%20begins.
He figured his sense of aesthetics was more important than the physics of reflecting radar waves for stealth bombers.
Can a battleship have bone spurs?
That’s OK, it’ll just declare bankruptcy anyway.
Like obsolesce.
All naval ships take several years to become commissioned and Donnie won’t be in office. His name will be scrubbed from any naval ships.
They can launch it in San Francisco and sail it past the re-opened Alcatraz prison for us launching ceremony in a celebration of all the ways America is great again.
I just assume all of this stuff is either bribes or department heads trying to jingle keys in order to keep their budgets from being questioned
Reality has never stopped Republicans in the past. They will do it anyways and blame reality for being too liberal when it falls apart.
Of course, you can’t build a boat that bottom-heavy without it sinking.
That’s never been a problem for Trump
Spend the money for design, construction, and labor/equipment on Medicare for All
We don’t need an obsolete „battleship“, where naval aviation is king of the seas today, and submarines are the knife hunters of the depths.
United States has more aircraft carriers than pretty much everyone else combined in the world.
I think we’re good.
– Trump
– class
Pick one
The Epstein-class* battleship
This is another case of Hegseth sort of doing a good thing accidentally but then losing the plot because I don’t believe he’s particularly bright nor does he have a good cadre of advisors to help him focus that effort into something actually useful instead of grandiose. He’s wrong on a lot, in fact I’d say 99% of his pet projects are just him really trying to contain some sort of psycho-sexual leanings and dreams of finally beating the Ottomans.
But, its‘ very true that the US’s overall strategy procedures and equipment for those goals are woefully outdated and actually have been since the initial Iraq invasion. We have overbuilt carriers, under funded small munition drones programs, maintain too many large formations, over reliance on first-strike air dominance with JSFs, honestly the inertia of the whole of DoD has been stuck in a prospective land war with the Soviets circa 1985.
There’s plenty of reason to have a style of gunner ship that is nimble, uses rounds but not explosive ordinance in large, and geared for „close“ combat in areas of concern like the Straight of Malacca, Hormuz, and many many other choke points of international shipping concern.
What the hell is *not* needed is a big ass WWII era floating fortress. Like if I gave an overview of a 5th grader of US’s military preparedness and then asked them for the dumbest idea they could think of I’d bet good money that they’d say trying to resurrect a dead feature of naval warfare that had at best questionable results would be their answer.
*“battleships have been obsolete for decades. The last was built more than 80 years ago, and the U.S. Navy retired the last Iowa-class ships nearly 30 years ago.”*
Aka Donnie is back in his childhood fantasy world of big ships with John Wayne at the helm.
„This ship would NEVER be sunk by a bunch of teenagers with drones and remote guided torpedoes with explosives strapped to them!“
What is special about this type of ship? Does it wander around the ocean aimlessly and never really get to where it is supposed to go?
I mean with the loss of constellation class(recently reduced to the 2 hulls currently building). USN is lacking a way forward atm.
But what USN really lack a frigate …. Aka smaller then the Destroyers …. Something that smaller shipyards can start to spew out
There would be a point in even smaller drone assist ship. / vlunch holder etc. That could follow fleet around and assist it.
The funny thing is that the image WH showed looks more like a frigate hull then a battleship hull. I actually think navy showed a initial image of the new frigate Class they was going to propose and guess what. T decided to up it like a factor 50 or so in size and add lasers etc to it.
Any trump class seaworthy vehicle should just be a garbage scow
End game is Trump says in the headlines, most news never bothers to fact check, and mage cult loves it regardless of Trump ever goes thru with it.
It’s exhausting to keep up with the mountain of shit that Trump vomits daily.
They should call it the USS Canyonero.
The damage this project would cause to US naval doctrine and readiness would be an impeachable offense if it weren’t for the littany of other far crimes he’s committed. The only shipbuilding sites big enough to host this are already building super carriers, the thing naval supremacy has rested on since Yamato and Musashi were destroyed by torpedo bombers.
Embezzlement is what this is about
Do it like the ballroom. Scuttle the entire US fleet first, then start drawing battleship plans on a cocktail napkin.
Us navy vet here. E-5 fire control man. Served 85-91 inc gulf war. Saw a battleship a few times. I was able to watch a broadside of its 16” guns in northern pacific as we all took turns sailing by a ship they wanted to sink. Our 5” gun caused some damage. The battleship was impressive and sunk the target ship fairly quickly. They had it go last in line since we all knew that would happen.
Anyhoo. Battleships were good at fighting other battleships. They could fire onto shore with meh accuracy. They had harpoons. They had CIWS. Other than that they were massive targets. Anything they once dominated at has since been improved upon. No reason spending millions lobbing gunfire “near” the target. We have much better solutions.
Positives: look scary.
Negatives: become targets in battle. Top. down weapons will sink them. No armor. Take thousands of sailors. Serve little purpose.
This project is idiotic and a waste of taxpayer dollars.
Why don’t we bring back b17 Flying Fortress too. lol.
You, know; let’s thing about that for a minute…
The deck area of a Gerald R. Ford class aircraft carrier is about 190,000 sq. ft. (the enclosed hangar deck would be a bit smaller). Way more than that ballroom.
So, why not keep things simple and 47 have a gold-plated Ford-class aircraft carrier named after him? In one convenient package he would have:
– A bigger (Indeed: two-level) ballroom
– A yacht (nuclear powered! and with better defenses that the White House)
– An airport
– A command post
– Nuclear weapons
– Mobility
– An air force
All with an ocean view.
Becasue, by golly, I’d like to have all that in once, convenient package.
Trump is making brand new vasa ships. The Vasa ship was the swedish kings prestige project and he wanted two gun decks for extra firepower and intimidation. On its maiden voyage it sailed 1300 meters and then capsized because it was too top heavy due to the extra gun deck. Vasa (ship) – Wikipedia https://share.google/bhIHCWCRhaP135iOV
Building a new class of ships of any kind is expensive as hell, especially when it takes on a radically different form from previous classes. Look at what happened with the Zumwalt-class. That was supposed to replace a large number of the Arleigh Burke class destroyers, but of the 32 planned, only three ended up being built. In general, overall costs go down with each subsequent hull, provided that you aren’t revising the design every time you build it and the Zumwalt-class never got that opportunity.
Looking at these battleships, I can only imagine a boondoggle even worse than the Zumwalt. Even if one gets built, the Navy doesn’t really have a place for it in its doctrine and it’ll just sit around in port or run sea trials. At best, it could be a testing platform for future weapon systems, but there are so much cheaper ways to do that.
So idea he has – no matter how stupid is going to given serious consideration- and to add – cost tax payer $. that is what happens when you surround yourself with incompetent boobs.
It’s going to be like that time Homer’s long lost brother lets him design a car.
I assume ‘Trump class battleship’ means that when it’s called to combat duty it develops a bad case of rudder spurs and sits it out.
We can’t build shit. The last three ship designs sucked. The San Antonio class LPD (2000), the DDG-1000 zummwalt (2011) and whatever the fuck the LCS program (2008) absolutely suck as ships.
Not counting the failures of the ffgx and ddgx.
Designing a useless ass „battleship“ will add the the legacy of american failures of shipbuilding. Also, when china has scores of fodder to destroy it doesn’t make sense.
Waste of time, and more bullshit for his base and ego.
Right. Cuz he’s dumb as shit. Actual shit.
Ask Japan how useful the Yamato was in war. Same shit with the big battleship/dreadnaugt fleets in WWI. Nobody wants their big expensive new toy sunk. So you get too nervous to actually use it in combat.
The largest class battleship America ever made was the Iowa class in WW II, almost 900 feet long and close to 60,000 tons. They cost $100 million each in that era, which today would be $2 billion. Trump wants to build something even bigger than that. Which in modern naval conflict could serve no purpose other that being a gigantic slow moving target waiting to be put to the bottom of the sea by a weapon that cost less than 1/1000 th of what that ship would cost.
It will be gaudy, cheaply made, bloated, and impotent. Just like the person it’s named after.
“the fastest, the biggest, and by far, 100 times more powerful than any battleship ever built.”
Can’t have fastest and biggest brother. There’s a physics reason that the B-52 does not run at the same speed as the F-22