NATO-Chef Mark Rutte lehnt Forderungen nach einer Verteidigungsunabhängigkeit der EU von den USA ab
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/12/26/nato-chief-rutte-rejects-calls-for-eu-defence-independence-from-us
Von Crossstoney
NATO-Chef Mark Rutte lehnt Forderungen nach einer Verteidigungsunabhängigkeit der EU von den USA ab
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/12/26/nato-chief-rutte-rejects-calls-for-eu-defence-independence-from-us
Von Crossstoney
28 Kommentare
Honoured Trump’s Winnie sucker
Feels like déjà vu Europe talks autonomy, NATO reminds everyone the transatlantic link still runs the show.
It is literally a job for a NATO official to protect NATO.
Unfortunately, European countries cannot base their safety on empty claims.
I even remember somewhere at late elementary school or at early secondary school I was told how cool Ukraine was to abandon its nukes (the 3rd nuclear potential in the world, btw).
Few decades fast-forward, USA bombed Iran, a country who signed a nuke treaty with them. Russia bombed Ukraine.
Morale of the story: if you have a defense treaty, use this paper to wipe your ass. This way it won’t be wasted.
As much as Rutte likes it, Europe can no longer afford to be America’s junior partner. It’s been 80 years since World War II, and Europe needs to finally step out of America’s shadow and achieve strategic autonomy. Otherwise, Europe will remain at the mercy of whoever happens to be sitting in the White House and will continue to be an irrelevant geopolitical dwarf.
Also, people like Rutte, who openly embrace Europe’s role as America’s loyal sidekick, only reinforce the Russian narrative that Europe is subordinate to the US. Yeltsin even asked Clinton to „just give Europe to Russia“ back in the day.
That’s oblivious since it’s his job to say this.
Someone got a yelled at by daddy.
Of course, he is NATO chief not Dutch chief anymore of EU chief, he should defend the position of all members so from Europe and US.
Reminder that this man called Trump daddy.
Can’t anger *daddy* I guess omg shut the fuck up
It’s his job. It’s up to the Europeans to make it hapoen. Not directly the career politicians but the average joe (me), who blames everything the sovereign national government fucks up, on Europe, then blames Europe for letting the sovereign national government doing it. Then, Europe again for taking our sovereignty, even though EU institutions can only do what the national governments tell it to do.
Edit: missed *the* due to alcohol.
Like asking the barber if you need a haircut
The future of Europe needs, at least for the being, to be in European hands.
What else can you expect from him when he calls that yank-pedophile-rapist-felon „daddy”.
His only job right now should be to see to the emergency nuclear rearmament of Europe. Preferably before the US gets the idea we have similar raw materials as Venezuela and Greenland
Here we go again… for 4 decades US practically forbade Europe to invest in joined defense. Now US is blaming Europe to have complied. And repeat… 🔁
He has a point. At this point in time Europe does not have the arms industry nor the intelligence to be militarily self reliant
If Europe would be united and would spit out the money, it would take probably 5 years to be self reliant. Otherwise probably way more than a decade.
So what do we do about the Americans at Ramstein then?
If Rutte rejects reliance on US for defense, he’d be on the line to convince the EU to spend enough to get its own defense spending way up, enough where they don’t need the US to feel safe. That’s something every US president for the past 2 decades has failed to do.
The US is no longer a NATO ally. They are more than ever on Russia’s side. Only a fool/moron could still think otherwise.
Instead of building out a European NATO and reinvent the wheel, we should shore up Europe’s role in NATO.
It’s about time NATO was replaced by a European agency separate from NATO
What more does Trump have to do to get Europeans to stop depending on the US. We’re not your personal security force. Are you guys really that afraid of taking care of yourself? Stop begging and move on! We’re not here for you guys, you’re not out allies.
NATO is dead, while Trump is in power, NATO its not coming back.
Time to rise Europe
Mark Rutte the Dutch politician most likely believes in EU independence from the US.
Mark Rutte the Dutch citizen most likely believes in EU independence from the US.
Mark Rutte the NATO SecGen will never support EU independence from the US.
It’s not that difficult to understand this.
What’s that brown stuff on his nose?
Well as tempting as it might be to break away from the US, we need to remember that Trump and his cronies will be gone one day and we hopefully go back to normal times again. I got a feeling that will happen sooner than we think. The GOP is showing signs of imploding under the weight of its bullshit and narcissism. Until that happens keep Trump sweet. Play the long game. But it does open our eyes we need to do more so we don’t just rely on them.
“Rutte pointed to shared US-European interests in defending the Arctic and North Atlantic.
„The US has its own specific interests in NATO, which is, of course, Europe staying safe, but also the Arctic. A safe Arctic is crucial for the United States, and we can only defend that together, European and American NATO allies.“
„The Arctic is a big issue. We see Chinese and Russian ships travelling there. And we can only defend the Arctic together – European and American NATO allies together.“
The NATO secretary general warned that Russia could pose a serious threat as early as 2027, according to some intelligence assessments.”
The problem is Europe needs to do about 15 years of development in less than 10 years if it wants to be mostly or at all independent secure without the USA. Even many European technologies have US made parts or technology so it’s incredibly tough to be totally independent. The Grippen is a prime example of a European platform with USA technology and parts