Die drei wichtigsten Erlebnisse, die ein Balkan- oder ein Land im Nahen Osten machen muss.
Von OpportunityNice4857
Die drei wichtigsten Erlebnisse, die ein Balkan- oder ein Land im Nahen Osten machen muss.
Von OpportunityNice4857
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Montenegro was also bombed by nato in 1999
Hmm, I’m calling Azerbaijan for the Ottomans, even if their rule was episodic.
This feels a bit reductive tbh. Some countries here had Ottoman rule for centuries, others barely at all — does lumping them together actually explain much?
Interesting idea but this is missing probably more than half of the actual countries in the Middle East. Also I’ve never seen anyone claim that the Caucasus countries are part of the Middle East.
You should rather label this as former countries of the Ottoman Empire. But then it’s not that interesting I guess.
Israel was socialist when it was founded
The Ottomans ruled Azerbaijan and Tabriz for 18 years until Safavid Turcomans recaptured it in 1603.
I forgot to put Saudi Arabia, particularly Hejaz, they did experience Ottoman rule and they are part of the Middle East. My bad.
Add greek, Roman, Arab, mongol and British invasion to the list.
Slovenia had no Ottoman rule.
Iraq are adults now! Shame to grow up into this economy
What does Slovenia have to do with the Ottomans?
What about Ottoman rule and a US intervention?
Greece, for example.
Those awful americans intervening to stop a genocide 🙁
I would add another plague – the British.
This is not the Middle East. Secondly, Egypt had a huge empire during the New Kingdom and occupied the Levant and Nubia. Why isn’t this included in the list like the Ottomans?
Egypt was strictly an Arabian socialistic republic after the collapse of the Egyptian kingdom. They seized foreign brands and turned them into Egyptian brands. So much later after death of Nasser that Egypt started to open up again and invite them back. This created the funny experience we have today where you go buy snacks and find two brands that are too similar to each other, one Egyptian and one foreign.
Today Egypt is hybrid but the military is gaining too much power over Egyptian infrastructure, taking over brands and pushing away foreign investors (even when they try to, it’s just not safe to invest in)
Did the US really never have a war with Turkey? Not even back in the Ottoman days? They were on different sides of World War 1 at least right? No invasion back then?
Map is so bad
US intervention in Lebanon too
Slovenia was never under Ottoman rule, see: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Rise_of_Ottoman_empire.png
Montenegro was also bombed by the US. it was the first to get bombed around 15 to 16 when coastal city of Bar got struck, later Danilovgrad Military station was bombed where the first casualty of the bombing was recorded when a soilder died
Most people don’t know that Greece and Italy both had extremely effective leftist/Communist partisans who fought very well against the fascists occupying their countries and were very popular locally. As soon as they could, the US and Brits disbanded them and took their weapons so as to better control the political future of those two countries. The US had a very strong hand in their post-war political path. So you can talk about leftist regimes if you want, but you’ve completely missed the far-right influence. Greece has been a veritable laboratory for US far-right aggression ever since. There’s a very good documentary about it: [https://labgreece.org/en/home/](https://labgreece.org/en/home/)
A socialist dictatorship is worse than the evils of Egypt and the Ottoman yoke combined.
Lebanon had an American intervention.
Serbs were committing ethnic cleansing in Bosnia btw
I mean, there are other places that should have US intervention on this map.
French and British colonial activity – my grandfather fought in Palestine.
Egypt was socialist
Montenegro should be dark red
The Caucasus isn’t part of the Middle East. The Ottomans never really ruled Georgia, they did force things, and many wars happened, but direct rule never really happened.
Croatia and Slovenia had a US intervention too
In 1997, during civil unrest, first united European military mission ever entered Albania. This was before Kosovo war and before Kfor. We called them the „multinational troops“. It was not invasion, but it was one big intervention.