„Bringen Sie Ihrer Tochter Polnisch bei“: Die Ukrainer in Polen stoßen auf wachsenden Unmut

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/22/teach-your-daughter-to-speak-polish-ukrainians-in-poland-face-growing-resentment

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    1. Practical-Pea-1205 on

      That’s Putin’s goal. The longer the war goes on the more people will get tired of supporting Ukraine, which means they’ll have no choice but to turn to Russia.

    2. johnbonjovial on

      Its the same everywhere there’s refugees. I pray i never have the misfortune of becoming displaced. Poor bastards having to put up with the biggest losers in their host country criticising them.

    3. Poland itself, back in the 1990s and 2000s, had serious problems, even if not a war. They weren’t invaded for breaking free from being Soviet vassals, but they were a poor country whose migrants flooded Western Europe, and a country that desperately wanted to join it.
      And when the core EU countries made Poland a full partner and allowed it to become prosperous, it’s disgusting to watch a sizeable part of the population become ungrateful and arrogant toward countries that want to follow the same path, like Ukrainians.

      And on top of that, this group has a condescending attitude not only toward Ukrainians, but toward the EU itself. They think that without this organization, and without the huge number of Ukrainian migrants doing the hardest jobs in Poland, they would still somehow prosper.

    4. When in a foreign country, either learn local or communicative language.

      That’s why im not particularly amused by fellow Poles abroad, especially ones I met in thr UK, absolutely refusing to learn English and proud of it.

    5. It’s a similar story how British treated Poles, during Brexit in particular. When you have a huge influx of immigrants in a short period then quality of life for natives go down (higher prices for rent, bigger competition for jobs, there is no pressure to raise salaries or work conditions for workers anymore because boss can say „I have 10 immigrants for your place if you don’t like working here“, wait longer for hospital visits, longer traffic jams in the biggest cities, cashiers and waitress sometimes don’t speak your language and it makes you frustrated, cultural/historical clashes and differences etc). At the same time economists and elites are happy because they have a new cheap labour source, new desperated renters, clients, more taxes and GDP rise. Immigration is cool when it’s done gradually and infrastructure is updated. It wasn’t possible in Poland’s case because war can’t be predicted. If you add Russian war propaganda machine, Russian bots, AI and fake news then it’s a really spicy mix.

    6. LieGrouchy886 on

      Physical confrontation is always bad, but they should be learning language of their host country regardless.

    7. KindnessComesBack2U on
    8. Wouldn’t kids learn Polish rather quickly in any case since they go to school there?

    9. IgorGirkinStrelkov2 on

      Russian and nationalist propaganda is trying to create divisions between Poles and Ukrainians.

      Especially with older people and harassment is especially noticeable from older women, well, because they know no one will hit them in the face for saying something offensive.

    10. HatIntelligent6028 on

      Is the USA, a leaked memo states that the USA is trying to pull Poland out of EU. Posts like this seem to be in furtherance of that goal.

    11. it is still poland after all, their racism and xenophobia won’t change that quickly

    12. ApicnicwithTarkin on

      Western Ukraine’s and the Ukraine language is quite similar to Polish it’s the eastern ukraines that speak more Russian who might or would struggle more – however, if all Ukrainians can speak Ukrainian but maybe choose to speak Russian or a more Russian dialect – there should be little to no issue

      Edit: addendum

    13. wordswillneverhurtme on

      Its a reasonable ask. I know a few Ukrainians in my city and while I didn’t have a positive interaction they were learning my language at least. Maybe they were required that by the government but I think if you want to live here for a long time, its best for everyone if you learn the language. Even just at basic level.

    14. ExpressGovernment420 on

      I mean, it is strange that even youth doesnt learn local languages much anymore. For example, I had a young Ukrainian boy (15) talk to me in russian. And when I asked how long he has lived in Latvia, he said 2 years. Yet in those 2 years he hasnt learnt a Latvian or even English. There should be some knowledge of local language by this time.

    15. ImSuchASpud on

      OH whats that? Your people are being murdered? WELL SPEAK FUCKING POLISH THEN YOU TWATS.

      Stupidity has inherited the earth

    16. GreenEyeOfADemon on

      Author of this article:

      Shaun Walker

      >Previously, he spent more than a decade in Moscow and is the author of The Long Hangover: Putin’s New Russia and the Ghosts of the Past.

      [Shaun Walker „journalist“](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Walker_(journalist)#Political_views)

      >Walker has been criticised for some of his pro-Russian writings prior to 2022, including a 2014 article for *The Guardian* entitled „I can’t stop dreaming about Vladimir Putin“, and his positive comments on Russia at the time of the 2018 World Cup. He has also been criticized for not adequately considering the perspective of Russia and Putin in his reporting.

    17. Damn, all of this echoes how I personally witnessed Poles being unjustly treated in the UK. It was awful, especially during Brexit.

    18. NoRecipe3350 on

      From what I’ve read on this matter, the situation in Poland seems to be how the Brits felt about Poles and other Eastern Europeans who arrived in large numbers after 2004 EU expansion. A lot of anger about perceived ‚cheap workers‘ who work for the low wages because they live in large numbers in a house to save on rent. Also crime rates, public drunkeness etc. Which is ironic.

      Although there is a supposed ‚Slavic brotherhood‘ that exists between Poland and Ukraine while the bonds between the UK and Poland were really about WW2. I mean when I was a kid in the 90s the only foreigners most Brits would see were French, Germans, Italians, Spaniards and perhaps a few Dutch or Scandinavians. Post communist/Eastern European countries just didn’t exist to us.

    19. lesdegas11235 on

      Most of the Ukrainians I met in Wroclaw spoke Polish quite well. There is no reason to think that others living elsewhere in Poland would not make the same effort. Ukrainian children attend Polish schools and they already speak Polish without any trace of foreign accent. Guess that the author is troubling the waters for a reason known to himself.

    20. CallsignPreacherOne on

      Doesn’t it just make sense to learn the language of the country you live in? It certainly helps you with career opportunities.

    21. Poland isn’t exactly known to be very tolerant of people with different backgrounds.

      I am not passing judgement on this, its just a trope that poland is known for, regardless of if it is true or not.

    22. UltraBakait on

      I don’t understand why Poles are apparently racist against Ukrainians.. would have thought that they would be more sympathetic due to the common Russian threat.

    23. ImportantCat1772 on

      I find it weird when people treat very similar languages to this level of importance. Ukrainian and Polish..  they’re almost the same language, theres probably more difference between two Arabic dialects than the two

    24. An attitude learned by the Polish hard way, among others in UK over recent years, I’d say.

    25. scp_euclid_object on

      The “need to learn language of the host country” doesnt justify attacking people on the street. We are stressed all the time. We are trying to work full time jobs, rise kids, learn language and not die from early stroke in a meanwhile. Harassing us will not help to learn language faster. It just a way to attack weakest for your own entertainment(and maybe your fella bullies)

    26. Exotic_Air7985 on

      Same happens in Romania where the refugees needs to deal with a 40% illiterate population who hates them.

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