Mein Auto wurde von der Winterthurer Polizei mit einer Busse bestraft, die behauptete, es sei in einem verbotenen Bereich geparkt worden, mit Verweis auf die blaue Zone. Dies geschah jedoch deutlich außerhalb der blauen Zone (die blauen Zonenschilder beginnen 200–300 m weiter) und es gab kein anderes Parkverbotsschild, das die Strafe rechtfertigen würde. Nach Kontaktaufnahme mit der Stadt wurde bestätigt, dass der betreffende Standort tatsächlich nicht zur blauen Zone gehört. Darüber hinaus schienen die anderen dort geparkten Autos keine Bußgelder unter den Scheibenwischern zu haben; Nur mein Auto, das ein ausländisches Nummernschild hat, wurde mit einer Geldstrafe belegt.
Hat sonst noch jemand ungerechtfertigte Geldstrafen oder fremdenfeindliches Verhalten der Polizei erlebt?
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Von aerojolly
26 Kommentare
You parked outside of a marked parking, which apparently is forbidden. So you get a fine.
Nah you just parked illegally and refuse to take accountability.
Feels like you’re jumping to the discrimination card very fast. Random mistakes / unexplicable behavior by the police happen reasonably often.
Did you park significantly outside the parking lines? The blue text underneath your fine suggests that was the case.
Edit: Disregard, I didnt see the ither images at first, there seem to be no lines at all.
Sure, the only reason you got a fine is because the police is xenophobic. You parking outside of the allowed area has nothing to do with it.
/s
maybe the other cars parked there after the control?
You can’t just park your car anywhere you please. We live in a society with rules here
No you‘re not being targeted. Winterthur – in fact almost all of Switzerland – is notorious for being very strict with parking fines.
I‘ve got a fine because my axes were not entirely within the parking field.
The city made it actually more transparent, although with the result of removing parking space previously available. Public parking outside of a marked field (white or blue) -> fine
Also, Winterthur tightened it‘s parking regime this September. Your fine is an average experience.
Just follow the law and stop looking for excuses for your criminal behaviour.
In Switzerland you can request a parking ticket for a whole month or even year if you live on that street and the house doesn’t provide parking. Could it be that the other cars had such a card? (usually placed inside of the car, maybe it even works with the Nr. Plate and a database so that you dont see a card).
This fine is probably fully justed. Note that you can usually only legally parking in cities where its marked.
Police usually fines everyone, we have rule of law. I guess the others where not there when the police was around.
You are not the only one who has had a discriminatory experience.
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/various/hundreds-demonstrate-against-police-violence-in-lausanne/90597424
I triggered so many snowflakes on here!
You are allowed to contest, then you can ask the police why you were the only one who got a fine. Don’t worry, if it’s a mistake they will cancel the fine 🍫
„I parked where i shouldn’t park and got fined. That is rascist.“ /s
Not a parking zone. The other cars are not your problem, they might are allowed to park there but you are unable to check that.
Maybe they get the fine directly per mail. You don’t know that either.
So coming to the conclusion it must be xenophobic or unjust based on assumptions… you ok OP?
You were out of the area, just pay
Xenophobic, lol. Snowflake social media society…
To be clear: in switzerland (unlike for example germany) you are only allowed to park, where it‘s clearly marked as a parking space. If it is now allowed, it is forbidden.
Unlike in germany, where its the opposite: when it is not forbidden, it is allowed.
Tbh its Winterthur. They are super aggressive with traffic violation fees. One time I stopped on the white line instead of before the white line at a traffic light and they fined me 250 Francs. I don’t go there anymore with my car and probably they are happy for it.
No, it’s just you 😆 – they’re all out to get you because you’re not Suisse
Nonsensical
How would he even know you’re a foreigner? Do you think they check the their files for the owner of the vehicle and if his name sounds foreign, then they’ll hand you a fine? Lmao.
Parking in the blue zone would have been legal if you set the parkmeter right. The problem is you parked outside of the blue zone without special permission.
Under the QR code it literally says: In the city of winterthur, parking outside of designated parking spaces is prohibited. (Without a special permission)
I can confirm, was driving once with foreign plates and they checked me (violently) twice in 15 minutes though they were insisting it was „random“. What a joke. Guy tried to pull my doorhandle off while I was not even unbuckled from my seatbelt… As soon as I started speaking Schwiizerdütsch the boi had probably made his underpants heavier by 300g.
Maybe you have missed this [signal](https://stadt.winterthur.ch/gemeinde/verwaltung/stadtkanzlei/kommunikation-stadt-winterthur/medienmitteilungen-stadt-winterthur/die-blaue-zone-wird-fertig-markiert/plakatkampagne/sujet-der-plakatkampagne/download) – when you enter Winterthur you see the information that parking is only allowed in marked zones. Big A0 posters as this rule is quite new.
I can assure you the cities dont miss a chance to make parking fines – no mather from where the car is. So the „discriminatory“ part is absolute rubbish. Maybe the other cars had a permit or are registrated.
„I got a parking fine, i am a victim of racism“ \s
They seem to do it to everyone.
Maybe you take photos of evidential value, and definitely one can dispute any of these. They may have thought you pay — as locals tend to know to complain.
The park fine distributors generally are after the money, their job is to create income for the employer. My assumption was that foreign car drivers never pay our fines ; ) because they can’t be reached. But maybe that’s not true.
I once had a fine when picking up take away food. The Amtrichter Verbot that I had photographed explicitly allowed Warenumschlag, and the credit card time coincided with my Google timeline. I approached the owner of the building to submit to good reason. The Parkon private fine company then was advised by the owner to cancel the fine. Took a few phone calls and mails. Parkon wasn’t a bit pleased.
Another time I had a fine from the janitor of a large cantonal office building when I moved office materials after the work hours when all other park spaces were empty. I got that cancelled, also as I hadn’t used space during work hours and only to load and transport a few times over a late evening.
I suggest you consider taking it to the Winterthur police office , let them explain how you and no other had that fine.
And they should evolution in detail how that was fair given your described relation between car position and blue zone.
Also try to develop a feeling for who distributes fines, when and where.
I’d never dare to park without clear allowance in e.g. Winterthur or maybe Engadin, there people seem to have a lot of time to put fines. Wallisellen is patrolled by Parkon so we’re not going there anymore – it’s just needlessly tiring. My wife’s flat – where she lived when we got to know each other – was in a rural village, and they also had time there. So every square cm there was prohibited, as one does there. I had a number of fines just by leaving past 6:00. It was the country and on one else using the spots. Develop a feel for where people have time for such.
But there are areas where life is normal and no one overly concerned over a car that doesn’t mean bad. I always complain when something is wrong.
They once made us pay a regular fee, for some official paper, of 50 CHF in cash , saying they don’t trust us with the bank transfer slip. The same administration that charges tens of thousands in tax that we never pay cash suddenly wants cash? I told them they were off, got them my smallest coins, a heavy bag that was. They didn’t try that again. I never heard it was wrongly counted.
Become helvetic. Don’t let them do things to you. Stand up. Send them away. Don’t pay too early. Make sure it’s for the right reasons if at all.
What is the actual number (or text) of the alleged violation? I’m **not** talking about the individual OB-Nr., but about the reference to the ordinance on traffic fines (OBV) *– edit: or reference to a cantonal/communal ordinance –*, it’s usually a 3 digit number followed by a dot and some other digits (and mabye even another dot and more digits) which indicates what specific law they allege you have broken. *(Edit: Or a reference to a cantonal/communal law/ordinance)*
Also, do you park often in Winterthur overnight? They have a local/communal night parking ordinance which prescribes that if you park overnight on public parking spots more than three times in a „control period“ (i assume this is monthly, but could also be weekly), you need to pay a fee. Maybe that’s why you got the fine?