So… What is the correlation coefficient? Seems low.
hoorah9011 on
Utah always the red state exception
WiinterU on
Legit gooning to this shit rn.
sparkey504 on
Why is the 2nd map adjusted for age morality on a „deaths by firearm map“?
pokerpaypal on
Those numbers should not include suicides because people will just kill themselves in more painful ways.
manningthehelm on
NJ restriction on guns in vehicles was just tossed so our blueness needs to be tossed too. Bummer.
depressed_crustacean on
Am I just not seeing the correlation here?
manute-bol-big-heart on
The use of a “dense rank” seems pretty dumb and makes the chart hard to read. Three states having a rank of 11 and the highest rank being 45ish makes it pretty confusing to read.
Ovvr9000 on
I don’t understand this. If the states are ranked and the scale is 1 to 50, why do they appear to range from 3 to 45?
Ok_Animal_2709 on
I do see a correlation here, but I think there are a lot of other factors that drive lower gun deaths in blue states. Economic and social policies play a big role in making people not want to murder others.
Hawkidad on
What garbage is this?
FishTacoAtTheTurn on
Does anyone have a rosetta stone for this data? Virginia needs fewer gun restrictions.
ohgeeeezzZ on
Criminals still get guns in Chicago…see? Gun laws dont work!
Said with sincerity without once looking at a map like this lol
Potential_One1 on
huh who woulda thought
This-Hold4222 on
Poor New Mexico. Can’t catch a break
RequiemRomans on
Why is less strict colored as red, as if it’s a bad thing?
caatabatic on
But Jesus and the second amendment !
thehairyfoot_17 on
Interesting it mostly correlates with places I’d be more interested in visiting as an international tourist….
Natural-Rooster-5860 on
self defense shouldnt count
Competitive_Twist149 on
Gun restrictions are not gun safety.
LokoSoko1520 on
Doesn’t „number of gun safety policies“ actually mean nothing though. A state could have 50 policies that minimally improve the safety of firearms and still have a much higher implied risk than a state with only 1 massively impactful policy.
nygdan on
Pepe come up with every possible reason to reject the obvious evidence of their eyes on this issue.
Pitiful_Ad918 on
To the gun nuts — save yourselves the logical gymnastics. There is a correlation between permissive gun laws and higher rates of gun deaths, both between states and between countries. But it doesn’t matter— your side has already won. Classrooms full of schoolchildren are gunned down every year in the United States, and no meaningful gun laws have been passed. The USA is the ONLY first world country with any meaningful number of gun deaths, not to mention our mass shooting epidemic.
There have been 75 school shootings so far this year, 31 dead and 100+ injured. This is only a fraction of the nearly 400 mass shootings in the US so far this year. And mass shootings are only a small portion of overall gun deaths.
So if I’m ready this right? Chicago, la and new York have fewer gun homicides than Kentucky 4 mill Montana 1 mill and Alaska under a mill? Or are they counting suicides, hunting accidents, and accidents with a fire arm in general?
wha-haa on
From my exposure to other Map porn here, it seems the deaths by firearms rate goes up steeply where the population is low or there is a larger population of black people.
justaBranFlake on
All i learned from this is Alaska is a leader in guns death because 70% of their deaths from guns is suicide… damn and i want to live there for a few years
bL0oDlUsT218 on
I think this is extremely misleading. The bigger state populations are going to have lower values, but could still have 10x the deaths than say a state like Montana.
Using total number per x population skews it to support a certain narrative, where it might actually not. For something like this. Total # of deaths should be used, and then reference it to the total population of the states. After finding the median.
Once you get a baseline then it’s easier to tell exactly what this information is telling us.
(Like, how many monatanas does it take to get to whatever Texas or Illinois number of deaths is etc etc)
Just_Consequence4528 on
Reading through the comments just makes me dislike americans more. Hope you like having the highest murder rate of all highly developed countries and burying your head in the sand instead of doing something about it. Im sure all the middle age men who kill themselves and kids in school will thank you for thinking about the guns!
chance0404 on
This is off. Indiana has more lax laws than Kentucky. I don’t understand this at all.
Panem-et-circenses25 on
The more guns a society has, the more gun deaths there will be.
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DC is the major outlier here.
Extremely strong gun laws, very high gun deaths
So… What is the correlation coefficient? Seems low.
Utah always the red state exception
Legit gooning to this shit rn.
Why is the 2nd map adjusted for age morality on a „deaths by firearm map“?
Those numbers should not include suicides because people will just kill themselves in more painful ways.
NJ restriction on guns in vehicles was just tossed so our blueness needs to be tossed too. Bummer.
Am I just not seeing the correlation here?
The use of a “dense rank” seems pretty dumb and makes the chart hard to read. Three states having a rank of 11 and the highest rank being 45ish makes it pretty confusing to read.
I don’t understand this. If the states are ranked and the scale is 1 to 50, why do they appear to range from 3 to 45?
I do see a correlation here, but I think there are a lot of other factors that drive lower gun deaths in blue states. Economic and social policies play a big role in making people not want to murder others.
What garbage is this?
Does anyone have a rosetta stone for this data? Virginia needs fewer gun restrictions.
Criminals still get guns in Chicago…see? Gun laws dont work!
Said with sincerity without once looking at a map like this lol
huh who woulda thought
Poor New Mexico. Can’t catch a break
Why is less strict colored as red, as if it’s a bad thing?
But Jesus and the second amendment !
Interesting it mostly correlates with places I’d be more interested in visiting as an international tourist….
self defense shouldnt count
Gun restrictions are not gun safety.
Doesn’t „number of gun safety policies“ actually mean nothing though. A state could have 50 policies that minimally improve the safety of firearms and still have a much higher implied risk than a state with only 1 massively impactful policy.
Pepe come up with every possible reason to reject the obvious evidence of their eyes on this issue.
To the gun nuts — save yourselves the logical gymnastics. There is a correlation between permissive gun laws and higher rates of gun deaths, both between states and between countries. But it doesn’t matter— your side has already won. Classrooms full of schoolchildren are gunned down every year in the United States, and no meaningful gun laws have been passed. The USA is the ONLY first world country with any meaningful number of gun deaths, not to mention our mass shooting epidemic.
There have been 75 school shootings so far this year, 31 dead and 100+ injured. This is only a fraction of the nearly 400 mass shootings in the US so far this year. And mass shootings are only a small portion of overall gun deaths.
https://www.cnn.com/us/school-shootings-fast-facts-dg
https://www.cnn.com/us/mass-shootings-2025-vs-past-years-dg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_(2000–present
There are several counties in CA that don’t report gun crime to the FBI. It should be much higher than it shows.
Seems a bit dumb.
A state could have 1 gun safety policy that bans guns or a 100 that do effectively nothing.
Majority of guns used in Illinois don’t come from the state they come from out of state like Mississippi and Alabama. About six in ten „crime guns“ seized by Chicago Police originated from gun shops outside of Illinois, according to a 2017 [report](https://www.cityofchicago.org/content/dam/city/depts/mayor/Press%20Room/Press%20Releases/2017/October/GTR2017.pdf) issued by the department.
Most are suicides.
So if I’m ready this right? Chicago, la and new York have fewer gun homicides than Kentucky 4 mill Montana 1 mill and Alaska under a mill? Or are they counting suicides, hunting accidents, and accidents with a fire arm in general?
From my exposure to other Map porn here, it seems the deaths by firearms rate goes up steeply where the population is low or there is a larger population of black people.
All i learned from this is Alaska is a leader in guns death because 70% of their deaths from guns is suicide… damn and i want to live there for a few years
I think this is extremely misleading. The bigger state populations are going to have lower values, but could still have 10x the deaths than say a state like Montana.
Using total number per x population skews it to support a certain narrative, where it might actually not. For something like this. Total # of deaths should be used, and then reference it to the total population of the states. After finding the median.
Once you get a baseline then it’s easier to tell exactly what this information is telling us.
(Like, how many monatanas does it take to get to whatever Texas or Illinois number of deaths is etc etc)
Reading through the comments just makes me dislike americans more. Hope you like having the highest murder rate of all highly developed countries and burying your head in the sand instead of doing something about it. Im sure all the middle age men who kill themselves and kids in school will thank you for thinking about the guns!
This is off. Indiana has more lax laws than Kentucky. I don’t understand this at all.
The more guns a society has, the more gun deaths there will be.