I get that the USA aren’t a very trustworthy partner right now. But choosing between F-35 and the Gripen is like choosing between a brand new Ferrari and your mom’s Renault Twingo.
tree_boom on
Fortunately military procurement is not based public opinion
Hmansink on
Im not even sure those Gripens have enough range to cover Canada completely
SunflowerSync on
Not really surprised by this. The F-35 has been controversial in Canada for years because of cost overruns and delays, while the Gripen is seen as cheaper, easier to maintain, and better suited for Canada’s needs. Public opinion seems to reflect fatigue with the F-35 saga more than deep loyalty to any specific jet.
50s_Human on
We should just be buying from allies. Gripen will look great in RCAF livery.
toorigged2fail on
While increasingly fleeting, there are times it seems beneficial to being a representative rather than direct democracy
22stanmanplanjam11 on
Canada just needs to make literally any choice at all on fighter jets as long as they actually make it. This has been going on since 2014 they keep cancelling the procurement and then doing new trials that discover everything they already knew.
They could have picked the F-35, Gripen, Rafale, or Eurofighter Typhoon and regardless of which one they picked their air force would be in a substantially better position than it is today.
Intreductor on
F-35 – You can’t see me on your radar.
Gripen – You can see me on your radar, all 8 of me.
schacks on
Meanwhile, Denmark is ordering new F-35 planes from the very country that threatens to take Greenland by force.
PwntUpRage on
Let’s face it, Canada isn’t going to go on the offensive with anyone. We can buy twice as many f35’s and we wouldn’t be able to stop a Russian invasion over the pole.
So why not buy a not as good fighter but still a workable one that also creates lots of jobs in Canada?
If the gripen is a total peice of trash then don’t do it. But if it’s decent then that’s fine.
FitSyrup2403 on
Grippen are great. They can start and Land on shitty roads, easy and fast to equip with new ammo and relatively cheap. And my favorite part: Everyone can develop upgrades
On the other hand you have the f35:
They are expensive as shit, expensive to maintain Nobody exept Us and the US favorite country have Access to the rootsystem… you cannot use the planes without the military services that are strictly only located in the US and its favorite country,
else you cannot really rely on them if you want to do anything that are against the builders interest because them planes have a kill switch and you have to buy the Us overpriced weapons system
In summery you just have a really expansive piece of junk
Brunsosse on
Maybe the ridicilious study that found f-35 to be ”easier”(?) to maintain was one of the reasons 😄
n0pe-nope on
How does this impact NORAD collaboration?
mariuszmie on
Go Canada go
Eljefeesmuerto on
Canadian sentiment is for the Gripen vs the exhaustive study that found the f-35 won by a landslide. Politics be politicking.
Constant-Theory-154 on
Sweden is stable and reliable. It is democratic in more than just words. The US is like a coin: it will fall as it falls.
Iwannafucktanks on
Most Canadians are idiots who don’t know jack shit about military procurement and our air force capabilities.
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I mean, alright.
I get that the USA aren’t a very trustworthy partner right now. But choosing between F-35 and the Gripen is like choosing between a brand new Ferrari and your mom’s Renault Twingo.
Fortunately military procurement is not based public opinion
Im not even sure those Gripens have enough range to cover Canada completely
Not really surprised by this. The F-35 has been controversial in Canada for years because of cost overruns and delays, while the Gripen is seen as cheaper, easier to maintain, and better suited for Canada’s needs. Public opinion seems to reflect fatigue with the F-35 saga more than deep loyalty to any specific jet.
We should just be buying from allies. Gripen will look great in RCAF livery.
While increasingly fleeting, there are times it seems beneficial to being a representative rather than direct democracy
Canada just needs to make literally any choice at all on fighter jets as long as they actually make it. This has been going on since 2014 they keep cancelling the procurement and then doing new trials that discover everything they already knew.
They could have picked the F-35, Gripen, Rafale, or Eurofighter Typhoon and regardless of which one they picked their air force would be in a substantially better position than it is today.
F-35 – You can’t see me on your radar.
Gripen – You can see me on your radar, all 8 of me.
Meanwhile, Denmark is ordering new F-35 planes from the very country that threatens to take Greenland by force.
Let’s face it, Canada isn’t going to go on the offensive with anyone. We can buy twice as many f35’s and we wouldn’t be able to stop a Russian invasion over the pole.
So why not buy a not as good fighter but still a workable one that also creates lots of jobs in Canada?
If the gripen is a total peice of trash then don’t do it. But if it’s decent then that’s fine.
Grippen are great. They can start and Land on shitty roads, easy and fast to equip with new ammo and relatively cheap. And my favorite part: Everyone can develop upgrades
On the other hand you have the f35:
They are expensive as shit, expensive to maintain Nobody exept Us and the US favorite country have Access to the rootsystem… you cannot use the planes without the military services that are strictly only located in the US and its favorite country,
else you cannot really rely on them if you want to do anything that are against the builders interest because them planes have a kill switch and you have to buy the Us overpriced weapons system
In summery you just have a really expansive piece of junk
Maybe the ridicilious study that found f-35 to be ”easier”(?) to maintain was one of the reasons 😄
How does this impact NORAD collaboration?
Go Canada go
Canadian sentiment is for the Gripen vs the exhaustive study that found the f-35 won by a landslide. Politics be politicking.
Sweden is stable and reliable. It is democratic in more than just words. The US is like a coin: it will fall as it falls.
Most Canadians are idiots who don’t know jack shit about military procurement and our air force capabilities.