Staats- und Regierungschefs wenden sich vom Vermögensplan ab und hin zu einer gemeinsamen Kreditaufnahme von 90 Milliarden Euro – Ungarn, die Slowakei und Tschechien ausgenommen

    https://www.politico.eu/article/european-council-summit-ukraine-aid-russian-frozen-assets-live-updates/

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    1. eliceev_alexander on

      It was intense; I was glued to the live updates. Seeing Merz and Ursula turn legal requirements into political fluff made it clear: they’re all talk. They won’t commit to anything on paper. I don’t blame them, though. The EU is a union, but every country still looks out for its own interests first.

      Common debt isn’t the issue. The issue is that they’re throwing money at the problem but won’t discuss a real strategy with Ukraine. Thanks for not abandoning them, but it’s a shame you don’t actually believe they can win. They deserve better.

    2. AdminEating_Dragon on

      It’s official, Costa announced it.

      Low-key shocked that Merz and the frugals accepted joint debt rather than bully De Wever and do the reparations loan scheme by outvoting Belgium.

      Actually a good outcome that we’re starting to have regular precedent of EU joint debt, but surprising Belgium holds so much respect.

      Also, we’re not overlooking that Czechia is already on the Hungary-Slovakia pro-Russia camp. We are 1-2 election wins of the far-right away from the Council becoming completely dysfunctional…

    3. The older Ukrainian population is condemned to die. And the next 2 generations are condemned to servitude to pay back these massive loans.

    4. Stabile_Feldmaus on

      I would have preferred using the Russian assets since it would have been a huge middle finger to both Russia and the US but as a federalist I can also see the good in joint EU borrowing and in the end what matters is that Ukraine gets the funding.

    5. TheoryOfDevolution on

      Joint debt is the only realistic solution but I’m still conflicted on it. It’s like not ReARM Europe where the eurobonds are funneled back into our arms companies, the joint borrowing here is simply to keep the Ukrainian state solvent.

    6. Feisty_Beautiful8018 on

      lol instead of supporting own countries, build roads and houses they will send money to the most corrupted country in europe.

    7. Czech is fall to pro-russia Orban camp , new pro-russia visegard but without Poland is basically formed inside EU damn.

    8. darealmoneyboy on

      Who gives a damn about Belgium. Its time to show strength and we chose weakness again. Just as Russia expected. Honestly i am losing faith in EU – project eithout future. Federalize or die. Its simple

    9. Basic-Still-7441 on

      Belgium wants to hold on to the „Nazi gold“ of our times. Despicable.

    10. Beyllionaire on

      That should’ve been done since the very beginning. We all knew the assets plan would fail. Why didn’t they just borrow first then refund with the assets? All those months wasted…

    11. RareEntertainment611 on

      A very ugly solution, though likely a necessary one. But we still don’t have a real strategy for Ukraine, we’re just bailing them out in hopes that the war will end as soon as possible and in hopes that Russia will somehow pay war reparations from the frozen funds. Why do we always have to be a reactive actor instead of an active one that sometimes dictates where things go next?

      We’ve had almost four years to get our act together and use the European economic machine for something. On our own turf. Instead, what we’ve come to is begging daddy Trump to get to join the table for the big boys, struggle to even match North fucking Korea as an arms supplier, and have to slowly abandon all of our lofty goals.

    12. Just a reminder that while the politicians dither, we as individuals can support Ukraine directly at U24.gov.ua In my view, helping Ukraine now will be a lot cheaper for me in the long run than letting Putin win. If he does, a lot more of my tax money will be needed for defence rather than on addressing real problems.

    13. Fluffy-Drop5750 on

      Good decision. I understand the temptation, but now that it was resisted all can be happy. EU maintains the high ground.

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