I hope they listen to the experienced wisdom of the Poles.
Ok-Book-5830 on
Europeans do not seem to realize what it would mean to seize Russia’s sovereign assets. Never mind—if the EU really goes through with it, you will find out right away.
crossdtherubicon on
This has been the core structure of strategy all along that European leaders – probably fearing to lose their jobs by explaining reality – have been avoiding to face.
Europe faced COVID inflation and a global financial downturn simultaneously – to which was timed Putin’s invasion. There was only limited Ukraine support, or understanding of the extent and implications of Putin’s invasion at that time.
Perhaps now the public is better educated as countries are re-arming and investing in their militaries. This is equally economic and political, as it is a reaction to Putin’s invasion. It should become clear to the public where this is heading.
Europe is slow-dancing into a future war if it doesn’t seriously invest in supporting Ukraine, or even begin lifting restrictions of use of Ukraine’s purchased material. While Europe still has the choice of enjoying peace.
Zapph on
He’s absolutely right, and anyone arguing otherwise is honestly either a Russian goon or in complete denial about Russia’s clearly aggressive, imperialistic and delusional attitude towards their neighbours and adversaries. Ukraine has its obvious problems with corruption etc. but any war has selfish opportunists and if you think not supporting the bulwark of resilience that the Ukrainian people represent isn’t worth 10x as much or more, should that bulwark be left to fall, I think you will have made a grave mistake & rue the day you let perfect be the enemy of good.
Slava Ukraini.
EnoughPrimary6700 on
Crimea was not enough for Russia, they wanted more.
If we don’t help Ukraine, the whole of Ukraine will not be enough too, and a „give us your land or else“ .will continue.
dalitima on
i love how the people that want to take the money the most have the least amount of It
MikeInPajamas on
It will never be enough for Putin.
Russia will never be big enough. Will never be powerful enough. Will never be rich enough. Will never be respected enough.
Putin will break every treaty. Push past every line on maps…
Until time, or gravity, rids us of him.
qY81nNu on
Also; once Ukraine survives they will be the modern weapons manufacturing and experience capital of the planet. I would like them to be on our side. It’s just one more reason, and there are many.
batwing71 on
Lessons learned. Its a shame Trump supports Putin. Sad.
EmperorsUnchosen on
Sadly, people had too much peace and got used to peace. It’s hard to convince people that war is coming. And yeah „politicians sending our sons and daughters to die“ is a very valid argument, but there is such a thing as defensive war and fighting for the right cause.
Sonchay on
Pretty much every war in history has involved capturing the property of those on the other side. That is literally Putin’s war aim in the first place, this shouldn’t even be a debate – take the money. If it sets the precedent that „your country starting an unprovoked war may lead to rich citizens losing their wealth“ then excellent, there might be more pushback by those with influence against people like Putin next time.
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I hope they listen to the experienced wisdom of the Poles.
Europeans do not seem to realize what it would mean to seize Russia’s sovereign assets. Never mind—if the EU really goes through with it, you will find out right away.
This has been the core structure of strategy all along that European leaders – probably fearing to lose their jobs by explaining reality – have been avoiding to face.
Europe faced COVID inflation and a global financial downturn simultaneously – to which was timed Putin’s invasion. There was only limited Ukraine support, or understanding of the extent and implications of Putin’s invasion at that time.
Perhaps now the public is better educated as countries are re-arming and investing in their militaries. This is equally economic and political, as it is a reaction to Putin’s invasion. It should become clear to the public where this is heading.
Europe is slow-dancing into a future war if it doesn’t seriously invest in supporting Ukraine, or even begin lifting restrictions of use of Ukraine’s purchased material. While Europe still has the choice of enjoying peace.
He’s absolutely right, and anyone arguing otherwise is honestly either a Russian goon or in complete denial about Russia’s clearly aggressive, imperialistic and delusional attitude towards their neighbours and adversaries. Ukraine has its obvious problems with corruption etc. but any war has selfish opportunists and if you think not supporting the bulwark of resilience that the Ukrainian people represent isn’t worth 10x as much or more, should that bulwark be left to fall, I think you will have made a grave mistake & rue the day you let perfect be the enemy of good.
Slava Ukraini.
Crimea was not enough for Russia, they wanted more.
If we don’t help Ukraine, the whole of Ukraine will not be enough too, and a „give us your land or else“ .will continue.
i love how the people that want to take the money the most have the least amount of It
It will never be enough for Putin.
Russia will never be big enough. Will never be powerful enough. Will never be rich enough. Will never be respected enough.
Putin will break every treaty. Push past every line on maps…
Until time, or gravity, rids us of him.
Also; once Ukraine survives they will be the modern weapons manufacturing and experience capital of the planet. I would like them to be on our side. It’s just one more reason, and there are many.
Lessons learned. Its a shame Trump supports Putin. Sad.
Sadly, people had too much peace and got used to peace. It’s hard to convince people that war is coming. And yeah „politicians sending our sons and daughters to die“ is a very valid argument, but there is such a thing as defensive war and fighting for the right cause.
Pretty much every war in history has involved capturing the property of those on the other side. That is literally Putin’s war aim in the first place, this shouldn’t even be a debate – take the money. If it sets the precedent that „your country starting an unprovoked war may lead to rich citizens losing their wealth“ then excellent, there might be more pushback by those with influence against people like Putin next time.