ADHD isn’t a disorder in the first place, it’s an adaptation mechanism to all kinds of stress. Children’s nervous systems unconsciously pick up on the stress experienced by their parents in particular. We won’t cure this „disease“ if we stigmatize children as „sick“ and just give them Ritalin without looking at the surroundings in which kids grow.
LittleMissFirebright on
>“While not proposing that ADHD be reclassified exclusively as a circadian disorder, the evidence supports recognition of a prevalent circadian phenotype that, when present, may benefit from targeted chronotherapeutic intervention alongside standard ADHD treatments.“
Headline is exaggerating. There’s a strong correlation, as with most mental conditions. Between 70-80% of people with ADHD have circadian cycle disruptions, per this very article.
thedudewhoshaveseggs on
as anyone with ADHD will tell you, apart from the bombastic headline, this isn’t a surprise
our circadian rhythm is utter garbage in most cases. It worked fine on my end when I started medication for a while, until I’ve gotten tolerance to it. Now that I have developed said tolerance, I’m back on falling asleep on the money at around 3:00-4:00 and wanting to wake up at 11:00-12:00.
there’s also the issue with the shut down a lot of ADHD people experience some time between 14:00 and 18:00 where you could INSANELY easy fall asleep to get a nap, resulting in a vicious cycle.
edit: as a fun fact I read a while ago, humans are biologically built apparently to have the day split into two halves, with 8h of work 4h of sleep, which I feel it would help me, but good luck doing such a thing in 2025-2026.
heeywewantsomenewday on
Just read through this and some of the sources. The intervention and strategies used are all the stuff I struggle with and know would help me. I just cannot seem to get it right consistently.
HokimaDiharRecords on
I realized relatively recently that having ADHD is like just, always being jet lagged.
I’ll manage a routine for a while, but it’ll either slowly slip later, or I’ll just randomly have one night where I can’t get to sleep until really late, like 5am or something, and then sleep later to catch up, and then go to sleep later because I’m not tired enough, and so on.
Sometimes I just resort to staying awake all night/day just to try and reset my sleep.
I’m always waking up at a different time, going to sleep at a different time, and getting irregular amounts of sleep. Jet lagged.
bahnsigh on
Uhh – how many in the paper were or had been treated with the usual stimulant-based medications?
Twister_Robotics on
I go back to the theory I formed while in my Abnormal Psychology class in College.
ADHD is caused by a difference in sensory filtering capability. Lacking some of the sensory filters of neurotypical people, people with ADHD develop different coping strategies to manage the sensory overload.
At the time I felt that Autism was caused by something similar, but more extreme.
Neither of these theories were present in our textbooks, it was just my interpretation of the information presented.
…
Later that year, (after I dropped out) I was diagnosed with mild (high functioning) ADHD. That class helped me realize that I might have it, so I then got tested after leaving college.
PainterEarly86 on
Wasn’t it already established that many people with ADHD experience a kind of circadian lag? I swear there was even a name for it
you-create-energy on
I can focus so much better when everyone else is asleep.
Confident-Alarm-6911 on
I work best at night, between 8 p.m. and 2 or 3 a.m., or early in the morning, between 4 and 8 a.m., when I always got the most done. I wouldn’t call ADHD a day/night rhythm disorder, but it probably accompanies ADHD. The question is whether it is secondary or primary.
Maybe I focus best during those hours because I have the fewest external stimuli and I know that everyone is asleep and no one will disturb me. People create too much „noise“ that I can’t cope with.
Rabalderfjols on
I’m diagnosed ADHD, and one of my most successful „interventions“ thus far has been one I started doing this fall. I *know* I’m going to wake up in the early hours and need a long time to fall back asleep, so instead of fretting over this, I go to bed early enough to get 8 hours in total anyway.
Two sleeps in a night was perfectly normal back in the days, it’s modernity that tells us we have to fall asleep and stay asleep for 8 consecutive hours or else.
5narebear on
I’ve only slept two hours at a time for 2 years. Luckily I manage two sleeps a day, but I just wake up like clockwork every time.
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ADHD isn’t a disorder in the first place, it’s an adaptation mechanism to all kinds of stress. Children’s nervous systems unconsciously pick up on the stress experienced by their parents in particular. We won’t cure this „disease“ if we stigmatize children as „sick“ and just give them Ritalin without looking at the surroundings in which kids grow.
>“While not proposing that ADHD be reclassified exclusively as a circadian disorder, the evidence supports recognition of a prevalent circadian phenotype that, when present, may benefit from targeted chronotherapeutic intervention alongside standard ADHD treatments.“
Headline is exaggerating. There’s a strong correlation, as with most mental conditions. Between 70-80% of people with ADHD have circadian cycle disruptions, per this very article.
as anyone with ADHD will tell you, apart from the bombastic headline, this isn’t a surprise
our circadian rhythm is utter garbage in most cases. It worked fine on my end when I started medication for a while, until I’ve gotten tolerance to it. Now that I have developed said tolerance, I’m back on falling asleep on the money at around 3:00-4:00 and wanting to wake up at 11:00-12:00.
there’s also the issue with the shut down a lot of ADHD people experience some time between 14:00 and 18:00 where you could INSANELY easy fall asleep to get a nap, resulting in a vicious cycle.
edit: as a fun fact I read a while ago, humans are biologically built apparently to have the day split into two halves, with 8h of work 4h of sleep, which I feel it would help me, but good luck doing such a thing in 2025-2026.
Just read through this and some of the sources. The intervention and strategies used are all the stuff I struggle with and know would help me. I just cannot seem to get it right consistently.
I realized relatively recently that having ADHD is like just, always being jet lagged.
I’ll manage a routine for a while, but it’ll either slowly slip later, or I’ll just randomly have one night where I can’t get to sleep until really late, like 5am or something, and then sleep later to catch up, and then go to sleep later because I’m not tired enough, and so on.
Sometimes I just resort to staying awake all night/day just to try and reset my sleep.
I’m always waking up at a different time, going to sleep at a different time, and getting irregular amounts of sleep. Jet lagged.
Uhh – how many in the paper were or had been treated with the usual stimulant-based medications?
I go back to the theory I formed while in my Abnormal Psychology class in College.
ADHD is caused by a difference in sensory filtering capability. Lacking some of the sensory filters of neurotypical people, people with ADHD develop different coping strategies to manage the sensory overload.
At the time I felt that Autism was caused by something similar, but more extreme.
Neither of these theories were present in our textbooks, it was just my interpretation of the information presented.
…
Later that year, (after I dropped out) I was diagnosed with mild (high functioning) ADHD. That class helped me realize that I might have it, so I then got tested after leaving college.
Wasn’t it already established that many people with ADHD experience a kind of circadian lag? I swear there was even a name for it
I can focus so much better when everyone else is asleep.
I work best at night, between 8 p.m. and 2 or 3 a.m., or early in the morning, between 4 and 8 a.m., when I always got the most done. I wouldn’t call ADHD a day/night rhythm disorder, but it probably accompanies ADHD. The question is whether it is secondary or primary.
Maybe I focus best during those hours because I have the fewest external stimuli and I know that everyone is asleep and no one will disturb me. People create too much „noise“ that I can’t cope with.
I’m diagnosed ADHD, and one of my most successful „interventions“ thus far has been one I started doing this fall. I *know* I’m going to wake up in the early hours and need a long time to fall back asleep, so instead of fretting over this, I go to bed early enough to get 8 hours in total anyway.
Two sleeps in a night was perfectly normal back in the days, it’s modernity that tells us we have to fall asleep and stay asleep for 8 consecutive hours or else.
I’ve only slept two hours at a time for 2 years. Luckily I manage two sleeps a day, but I just wake up like clockwork every time.