Arbeitslos und Sozialleistungen beziehen: Warum Großbritannien nicht arbeitet
https://news.sky.com/story/out-of-a-job-and-on-benefits-why-britain-isnt-working-13483807
Von sjw_7
Arbeitslos und Sozialleistungen beziehen: Warum Großbritannien nicht arbeitet
https://news.sky.com/story/out-of-a-job-and-on-benefits-why-britain-isnt-working-13483807
Von sjw_7
27 Kommentare
Here we go again, mental health care in the UK is terrible, it’s pretty much „CBT and that’s your lot“ (aka, cheap and aimed at convincing the patient that there isn’t actually a problem which needs addressing), if you need anything else it’s either non-existent or private only with huge waiting lists.
Employers have a major role here, those with health issues (particularly the likes of MS / Fibro / etc) have trouble committing to regular hours, enter the bradford factor and whoosh, they’re gone. Or more likely not employed in the first place, discrimination legislation? Yeah, try proving there wasn’t a „better“ candidate.
That’s before we factor in public transport and disability, etc etc
This actually seems like a balanced look at it.. unlike the BBC.
I find very worrying how in my area where I live at least, we seem to applaud not working.
Perhaps people are utterly sick of enriching others, just a thought.
Highest unemployment rate for over a decade, excluding the period during the pandemic.
Utter insanity to think we brought around 1 million migrants for 3 successive years under the guise of „we need the employment“
It’s probably because most people have worked out that if the choice is between:
being unemployed and struggling to make ends meet
or
having a job and struggling to make ends meet.
Than not working is clearly the better deal.
There’s plenty of work in construction but it’s hard tiring work
Sadly, benefits and PIP are a career choice for many.
The employment issues for people without health issues need to be addressed before we look at people with health issues. There needs to be more reporting on underemployment and an inclusion of that in unemployment figures to get a real view of the situation.
I can’t help but feel, also, that the world of work no longer offers many people any satisfaction in their job.
Go back to the 60s, and many people worked for local businesses. Sure, there may not seem to be much glamour in working for the local coal mine, but as a miner, you belonged to a long tradition; your pit was probably the biggest employer in the town, locally owned and central to the local economy. You all would go for a pint and the landlord at the pub knew his business (and the town!) only existed because of your hard work. Some other bloke in the bar was a tailor, another a butcher, local businesses. Even if they were part of a national chain, there was still the idea that you were part of that community.
If you work for Burger King today, you toil away in service of a master you’ll never see, and never will see. You get your shifts off a computer, your customers order food via touchscreen meaning your moment-to-moment orders come from another computer screen. You’re just doing the bit between computer and computer that can’t be automated (yet), to line the pockets of people who would never eat the food you’re making. You can do a good job or a bad job, it doesn’t matter, no-one notices or cares, as long as you’re not late, don’t shirk your job or burn the food.
Essentially the same working at a supermarket, or practically anywhere else.
The system incentivises not working. Unfortunately for many the bundle of social housing, with an almost free motability car, topped up with some cash every month, is much more comfortable than slaving away just to pay a mortgage and car finance.
I live in a council estate and in just my immediate proximity, there are 4 individuals who claim they just can’t work. At the same time they are out partying, having spouses, kids, and very busy social lives.
Instead of trying to fix any of the issues facing the average person, they’re too busy trying to install spyware into everyones devices and virtue signalling over childrens security.
Labour and the Tories are dead. Fuck them both. Ushered in a century of decline by passing the baton back and forth, slowly whittling away whatever made the country good until it was in this state.
The article talks about why a quarter of working age people are disabled. My story is that the NHS failed to identify or diagnose my chronic condition until far too late. 10 years too late. Now one of my organs is failing and almost certainly requires transplant.
I cannot be the only person in this category who would’ve had better outcomes with a properly functioning health service.
“Dr Fraser said children might be growing up less resilient but they also appear to have been deeply affected by lockdowns, the loss of routine and the closure of local clubs and leisure centres.”
Elephant in the room is social media, IMO.
I support prison leavers and most of them are desperate for a job, any job, any hours, any situation, any pay. But employers won’t hire them. At all. So we have thousands upon thousands of people with criminal records effectively shut out of employment forever. They live on UC. They go to the jobcentre, have pointless conversations with work coaches who totally understand they are unemployable, perhaps take a forklift driving class or attend the Restart programme, but none of these alleviates the simple fact that employers won’t hire people with criminal records – don’t talk to me about Timpsons or the handful of organisations who cherry pick a select few carefully chosen prison leavers to hire as a marketing gimmick, the vast majority of employers won’t hire someone with unspent convictions.
There’s also the humiliation factor: after being turned down for hundreds of jobs people can’t stand the humiliation of being refused for employment and begin telling themselves that they don’t want to work, and that they’re happier being unemployed. But in most cases, this is a lie they tell themselves to save their egos from the constant torture of being rejected by employers.
The constant narrative is ‚blame the work shy‘ when the focus really should be on employers: why isn’t the government and the public demanding that employers become more open minded about whom they hire and how they engage with people who’ve been out of work? Let’s get some hard-hitting media pieces about the laziness of HR departments and profit-driven motives of business owners who favour fast-buck over developing sustainable businesses that support communities…
I’ve been working for 9 years, no unemployment breaks I’ve always left a job when I had a new job lined up.
I had to take a break a few months ago to become a full-time carer for a family member and since around September-October I’ve been looking to get back into working.
I’ve applied for over 120 roles and I’ve had two interviews… The job market is absolutely cooked at the moment. I’ve had two different employment agencies and 3 recruitment agencies reach out to say how good my CV is and yet I am having 0 luck.
Not everyone who is unemployed wants to be unemployed and yet there doesn’t actually seem to be any support to get people back into work.
Okay I hope this isnt a stupid question, but can someone explain what you can receive on benefits? The weekly payments look low to survive on but are your bills covered as well?
I kmow this is probably ignorant but I have been very fortunate not to have needed them so far
Did anyone read the article about the man with no legs and depression? Or did everyone just jump in with uninformed takes on the benefits system?
The right/Tories/middle England: People on benefits (*insert pantomime booooooo*) are getting too much money! It’s ridiculous that they are getting as much as they would in an actual job!!!!
The right/Tories/middle England when minimum wage for „an actual job“ goes up: WTF this is ridiculous! How can someone on minimum wage be earning 12 QUID AN HOUR, back in my day it was £3 and that was your lot!!!! How can someone working in Primark be getting that much!!!!
I wish they’d just admit it and say that they hate all people who aren’t higher rate taxpayers.
There are jobs out there, the government should invest in some kind of scheme to allocate jobs to people on unemployment and if they refuse then they don’t get benefits. This would help the UK be more productive and reduce the need for welfare. Why can’t people looking for jobs be allocated to litter picking, farming, admin, bin collection, cleaning etc. it would give them experience and a sense of worth.
Just can’t get the staff to work in my asbestos mines for £20 a day anymore. This generation are lazy oafs! They need a good war to pull them up by the bootstraps!
At least future generations will be ok because since the two child benefit cap has been lifted the scroungers will be breeding like bunnies to get more of the employed hard earned cash. Effectively the government is paying for a larger workforce in the future
I used to work in an office, absolutely busting my ass for a crap wage and progression that never materialised. I felt like I was out of the house for 12 hours a day (including commute) just to line someone else’s pockets. It was truly demoralising.
Anyway, I retrained as a teacher, became a parent, was very satisfied with my work and felt I was really contributing to something worthwhile. To cut a long story short, I had to give up my job to be a full time carer for my children. I was hoping to be back at work by now but the SEND system is so fucked that my youngest son isn’t in school full time, despite us all wanting that.
It’s not as simple as “people are lazy.” There’s so many complex factors. I am a fit, healthy, qualified professional who is at home on carer’s allowance because the support for my children doesn’t exist.
If I hadn’t made the decision to change career when I did, I could’ve easily been one of the burnt out depressed people who just can’t carry on in an environment where everything costs too much, wages are shite and you don’t even get any tiny little perks in return for your hard work.
My neighbor that claims she is disabled and taxes a disabled parking space with a car provided by the tax payer for disability allowance was taking out a massive Christmas tree out of her car and carrying it better than a rugby player she always seems to be running literally in and out of her council house also paid for by us the taxpayers
So I guess 80% of these claimants are fraudulent and take the mick out of all of us
Wow, so Britain „isn’t working“ yet unemployment remains historically quite low at 5%.
Because you get given more money to not work than to work. Thats the reason but I’d rather make my own way and not be handed it
To me it seems simple. The NHS is floundering and the vast majority of people with health conditions are waiting for answers and would like to work but can’t. I have spent most of my adult life on one waiting list or another and it’s only getting worse. After being diagnosed in A&E with a serious heart condition that almost killed me in April, I am still waiting for an appointment with the cardiologist – I am on the urgent list. The GP told me they are not able to order the heart tests I need, so once I do see the cardiologist, it will be several more waiting lists for actual tests, then another waiting list to speak to them about those tests. In the meantime I’ve been given a long list of things I’m not allowed to do which curtail both my quality of life and my ability to work. In the meantime I’m not taking the medication that I might need to actually continue to keep me healthy.
Luckily I’m self employed and thus can accommodate myself, so I’m not on any benefits but if my business flounders no one will hire me with my health conditions. Everyone I know who is unemployed right now has health problems that are getting worse due to having to wait for diagnosis and treatments, or has been let go from a position due to „cutbacks“, and is actively jobseeking but hasn’t find anything yet.
Yes there will always be a percentage of people who don’t want to work and are happy to live off benefits and game the system, but I don’t feel like this is the vast majority of the unemployed.
I firmly believe things will only get worse until the NHS gets the funding it needs and catches up with every single waiting list so people are getting the health treatment they need promptly.