He’s hitting public servants in every way he can… meanwhile saying nonsense like “I love public servants”. It feels abusive and short sighted.
Puzzled49 on
“When the three day was first implemented, you had a lot of people going down to the office like they were told to do, only to find out that they didn’t have an actual workstation that day, that it had been double booked, that there’s no more spaces available, and then getting sent back home,” Silas said. “All of that is a waste of time and a frustration for that worker, but it’s also a waste of taxpayer resources.”
True. But does that justify continuing with the current policy. Maybe the government could make sure that workers in the office have guaranteed office space, preferably adjacent to their co-workers and bosses so that they can have the benefit of face to face discussions and mentoring rather than some sort of pseudo meeting over a computer network where it is impossible to look someone in the eye and have person to person contact.
iDareToDream on
I’ll never understand this fallacy that government workers have to RTO to save downtown businesses. Pushing them back to the office means no money for the local businesses in their communities. And then add in the productivity and morale boost that came with WFH and it really feels like across the board there’s this attempt to just savage the public service.
ForTwoDriver on
He can say whatever he wants. However, if management beneath him isn’t putting in the requests for resources, someone is dropping the ball. He probably doesn’t even know.
Lafantasie on
Look, I’m a supervisor at a small office. We used to be 250-300 people in an office prior to Covid and RTO only applied to supervisors and managers.
Of all the supervisors and managers, less than 10% actually do the office shifts. Everyone else got doctor’s notes claiming they can’t do office shifts due to anxiety or whatever other accommodations.
We just hired 5 new supervisors and they’ve already gotten doctor’s notes with accommodations preventing them from coming to the office.
Due to the fact RTO mandates the office remain open despite it only having 3-4 supervisors manning nobody and doing all the work through Microsoft Teams or Outlook anyway, I’ve gotten a lot of additional overtime throughout the year due to how little supervisors can attend the office and I’m often called in when one leaves sick.
And almost everyone I speak to in the office says increasing the RTO amount would just lead them to get a doctor’s note claiming anxiety or whatever to get out of doing it, as there’s no incentive to doing them when you can just get a doctor to claim whatever and the employer just does it.
RiverOaksJays on
I hope Carney shows some flexibility with RTO. There aren’t enough desks for CRA staff to come back to the office full-time in the GTA. The technology with MS Teams is good enough that you don’t have to have a physical meeting with your TL. Why does Carney want to waste money on renting office space to make sure everyone has a desk? The federal government made a big profit when it sold 1 Front Street in Toronto in 2013. significant
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He’s hitting public servants in every way he can… meanwhile saying nonsense like “I love public servants”. It feels abusive and short sighted.
“When the three day was first implemented, you had a lot of people going down to the office like they were told to do, only to find out that they didn’t have an actual workstation that day, that it had been double booked, that there’s no more spaces available, and then getting sent back home,” Silas said. “All of that is a waste of time and a frustration for that worker, but it’s also a waste of taxpayer resources.”
True. But does that justify continuing with the current policy. Maybe the government could make sure that workers in the office have guaranteed office space, preferably adjacent to their co-workers and bosses so that they can have the benefit of face to face discussions and mentoring rather than some sort of pseudo meeting over a computer network where it is impossible to look someone in the eye and have person to person contact.
I’ll never understand this fallacy that government workers have to RTO to save downtown businesses. Pushing them back to the office means no money for the local businesses in their communities. And then add in the productivity and morale boost that came with WFH and it really feels like across the board there’s this attempt to just savage the public service.
He can say whatever he wants. However, if management beneath him isn’t putting in the requests for resources, someone is dropping the ball. He probably doesn’t even know.
Look, I’m a supervisor at a small office. We used to be 250-300 people in an office prior to Covid and RTO only applied to supervisors and managers.
Of all the supervisors and managers, less than 10% actually do the office shifts. Everyone else got doctor’s notes claiming they can’t do office shifts due to anxiety or whatever other accommodations.
We just hired 5 new supervisors and they’ve already gotten doctor’s notes with accommodations preventing them from coming to the office.
Due to the fact RTO mandates the office remain open despite it only having 3-4 supervisors manning nobody and doing all the work through Microsoft Teams or Outlook anyway, I’ve gotten a lot of additional overtime throughout the year due to how little supervisors can attend the office and I’m often called in when one leaves sick.
And almost everyone I speak to in the office says increasing the RTO amount would just lead them to get a doctor’s note claiming anxiety or whatever to get out of doing it, as there’s no incentive to doing them when you can just get a doctor to claim whatever and the employer just does it.
I hope Carney shows some flexibility with RTO. There aren’t enough desks for CRA staff to come back to the office full-time in the GTA. The technology with MS Teams is good enough that you don’t have to have a physical meeting with your TL. Why does Carney want to waste money on renting office space to make sure everyone has a desk? The federal government made a big profit when it sold 1 Front Street in Toronto in 2013. significant