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    Selenskyj bietet an, das NATO-Angebot für Sicherheitsgarantien fallen zu lassen, lehnt jedoch den Vorstoß der USA zur Gebietsabtretung ab


    Selenskyj bietet an, das NATO-Angebot für Sicherheitsgarantien fallen zu lassen, lehnt jedoch den Vorstoß der USA zur Gebietsabtretung ab

    https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-berlin-talks-zelenskyy-05c363add7a4a3583f3beada7b1fb775

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    1. AndroidOne1 on

      News snippet: BERLIN (AP) — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Sunday voiced readiness to drop his country’s bid to join NATO in exchange for Western security guarantees, but rejected the U.S. push for ceding territory to Russia as he held talks with U.S. envoys on ending the war.

      Zelenskyy sat down with U.S. President Donald Trump’s special envoy Steve Witkoff and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner. The Ukrainian leader posted pictures of the negotiating table with German Chancellor Friedrich Merz sitting next to him facing the U.S. delegation.

      Responding to journalists’ questions in audio clips on a WhatsApp group chat before the talks, Zelenskyy said that since the U.S. and some European nations had rejected Ukraine’s push to join NATO, Kyiv expects the West to offer a set of guarantees similar to those offered to the alliance members.

    2. bestestopinion on

      Didn’t Ukraine also drop their nuclear weapons for security guarantees?

    3. anders_hansson on

      Deja-vu. On March 22, 2022: [Zelensky on peace treaty talks: Land handover deal-breaker, demands security guarantees](https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/zelensky-on-peace-treaty-talks-land-handover-deal-breaker-demands-security-guarantees.html):

      >Zelensky said he fully understands that NATO’s “open door” policy is in fact a fiction, and that Ukraine is prepared to consider rejection of a NATO membership plan and geopolitical neutrality … „Ukraine needs to accept this and seek other security guarantees“, he said

      Back in 2022 no western ally to Ukraine supported the idea of providing security guarantees (other than via NATO membership). Now it looks like the US is ready. Hopefully European countries will also join in this time.

    4. green_flash on

      What he is rejecting is the US proposal to cede territory not currently occupied by Russia:

      > Zelenskyy said that the U.S. had floated an idea for Ukraine to withdraw from the Donetsk and create a demilitarized free economic zone there, a proposal he rejected as unworkable.

      > “I do not consider this fair, because who will manage this economic zone?” he said. “If we are talking about some buffer zone along the line of contact, if we are talking about some economic zone and we believe that only a police mission should be there and troops should withdraw, then the question is very simple. If Ukrainian troops withdraw 5–10 kilometers, for example, then why do Russian troops not withdraw deeper into the occupied territories by the same distance?”

      > Zelenskyy described the issue as “very sensitive” and insisted on a freeze along the line of contact, saying that “today a fair possible option is we stand where we stand.”

    5. Opposite-Occasion-67 on

      Why in the fuck wont nato let them join? Can someone explain it to me like I’m 5 please .

    6. LocationThin4587 on

      Trump is going to throw an Almighty tantrum tomorrow. I shudder what he will do. He is getting really irritable and even more irrational. Tell Putin he can have Alaska instead.

    7. OLDandBOLDfr on

      Do not appease tyranny. Ukraine should be a part of the democratic alliance. 

    9. Kageru on

      I think this is as much a reflection that with a hostile US, and other Russia friendly NATO members, there is much less point in seeking to join the group. The security of Europe will be decided by Europe.

    11. YoungestDonkey on

      NATO membership *is* a security guarantee and the reason Ukraine might want to join it. But if some equivalent guarantee can be created in some other way then it’s fine. They’re after security, not specifically after NATO membership. But they’ve been fooled once already, so expect them to be much more circumspect next time.

    12. hawkseye17 on

      Security guarentees are downright useless. They’ve already tried that and those „guarentees“ were completely ignored.

    13. sioux612 on

      I really hope Ukraine ends up in Nato and the eu

      And of course doesnt concede any territory. 

      The chance for that is rather low with our politicians acting the way they do though. 

    14. Charitable-Cruelty on

      Surprised the white house hasn’t demanded Ukraine to join the states instead lol sounds like something they would do.

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