More legislation that doesn’t make sense proposed by people who fundamentally don’t understand technology
>Under the new rules, [VPN](https://www.techradar.com/vpn/virtual-private-networks) providers would be forced to verify the age of all UK users, employing „highly effective“ age-assurance methods to make sure no one using the service is under 18.
I wonder if they will be like the highly effective age-assurance methods currently employed that are defeated by VPNs and Death Stranding photo mode.
vriska1 on
The Amendment is unlikely to be added to the Children’s Wellbeing and Schools Bill but everyone still needs to call this out!
And its a lib dem lord pushing this and the other lib dems are calling her out on it.
Why don’t they just ban children? They’re clearly such a danger to themselves, it’s for the best at this point, the fuckers can’t do anything right
themiracy on
One could quip that if one had instead banned Mr. Mountbatten-Windsor from using VPNs or for that matter, using children, a lot of sorrow could have been saved in advance.
Xenobrina on
Dang they can just skip to the part where they start executing every adult to „protect the kids?“ This death by a thousand cuts approach is obnoxious
cop3x on
How dumb is the uk government / house of lords ??
Rok-SFG on
Anything and everything they can to get people to upload their IDs to the internet and have 100% confirmation of who’s posting what.
It don’t worry it’s not a yk only thing. The US is trying to go that way federally, as well as several states . Australia too. And I’m sure dozens of other countries are chomping at the bit to do the same.
Countercurrent123 on
Ban every UK politician from the internet and leave the children alone.
Cakeofruit on
The government be like ; You need to make children for the future. Also we use children’s as an excuse to make the future shit
QueuePLS on
Just as we all predicted. Happened faster than I thought though
SaintValkyrie on
Gross no. If they ban it there it sets a precedent. It isnt about protecting children
sebovzeoueb on
No way the children are going to get around the ban using… a VPN
account009988 on
UK Lords are idiots
AMGitsKriss on
Good thing the VPN companies know I’m a grown up, because they already have my credit card information
/s
Deviantdefective on
Here we go I knew this would be happening.
AMGitsKriss on
Wait, is this before or after the appointment if a bunch of Starmer’s yes men to The Lords?
Commie_swatter on
VPNs are open source technology, people will just make their own
ParentPostLacksWang on
The more you swine damage the internet, the harder we’ll route around it. Damage international and domestic carry enough with your idiot policies and demands, and we’ll make our own goddamn internet, with hookers and blow, and arrange international peering ourselves. Keep tightening your grip, and there will be free unencumbered wifi on every street. You will quickly find your hands empty, and your ears full of laughter.
rarerumrunner on
Is this China??? I guess so, how can these people be so dumb???? They continue to amaze…meanwhile there are 20 somethings growing up that don’t even know who the Fing Beatles are….in THIS country FFS
DopamineSavant on
That’s actually a crazy work around to the problem of it being technically impossible to truly block VPNs. Just put the stupid age check in front of the VPN, which will work on any legitimate VPN company.
jovial_rebel on
How?
Dr_Sep22 on
Do Brits genuinely enjoy their government screwing them over or is there something I’m missing.
jaber24 on
Brit politicians are brain dead
VogonSoup on
There are a handful of broadband ISPs in the UK.
And presumably most children have parents or guardians who pay phone and internet bills.
There must be a better solution than what is effectively banning petrol to prevent kids joyriding.
South_Leek_5730 on
and how will the VPN’s know it’s children using them?
Here we go… Age/ID verification for VPNs under the guise of protect the children…
This is step 2 btw. Step 1 was protecting the kiddies from erm… porn? I don’t know. I always thought that was a parents job but you know…
This is the template. If you don’t have it now then it’s coming soon.
All that lovely sexy data on your internet connection and device. It could make a totalitarian state orgasm. The Stasi ain’t got shit on these people.
TheObrien on
Lord propose something totally unenforceable, in yet another demonstration how the elderly and non-it literate elements of UK government sees technology.
“We can ban cigarettes, we can just ban vpn”
Capable-Fisherman-79 on
if youre over the age of 55, you shouldnt be allowed to have an opinion on banning tech, unless you possess some certificate. Im so sick of listening to old farts trying to ban the wrong things, for „safety.“ Fucking retire already and let the next gen make reasonable decisions
MonsterGuitarSolo on
The House of Lords should not exist.
Richard7666 on
* „Any relevant device supplied for use in the UK must have installed tamper-proof system software which is highly effective at preventing the recording, transmitting… and viewing of CSAM using that device.“*
So…DSLRs? Instax cameras?
Depends what they mean by „relevant“, but one would think cameras would fall under that. Absurd.
Yawawiwa on
Fucking why????? I can’t fucking take this shit anymore man :(((
Lia69 on
Every device has parental controls these days, FFS! We don’t need laws when the tools to „protect the children“ are already made!
unfknreal on
How’s this going to work? My kids phone is permanently connected to my self hosted VPN, so the device is basically always on my home network, where I can control web and other traffic on their device.
They’re gonna make it illegal to regulate my kids internet activity?
0xdef1 on
UK Lords must be 50+ years old dudes that have no idea what technology is. I am pretty sure many kids will go around that ban.
morganational on
WTF?! A) who cares?
B) so?
C) creepy old aristocrats wasn’t to make sure they can track their targets through the internet, I assume?
D) WTF??
MTN1- on
UK has gone to hell.
DemolisherBPB on
Ah the Lords. So out of touch as always. And just making the lives of anyone benethe them worse
SMF67 on
When will news articles stop framing it as a „ban for children“? The correct headline should be „UK Lords propose mandatory ID collection and deanonymization requirements for VPNs“
ohiotechie on
Good luck enforcing that
TheLightStalker on
Banned the children by making every adult sign in with their internet ID card. Yeah. Not happening pal.
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More legislation that doesn’t make sense proposed by people who fundamentally don’t understand technology
>Under the new rules, [VPN](https://www.techradar.com/vpn/virtual-private-networks) providers would be forced to verify the age of all UK users, employing „highly effective“ age-assurance methods to make sure no one using the service is under 18.
I wonder if they will be like the highly effective age-assurance methods currently employed that are defeated by VPNs and Death Stranding photo mode.
The Amendment is unlikely to be added to the Children’s Wellbeing and Schools Bill but everyone still needs to call this out!
And its a lib dem lord pushing this and the other lib dems are calling her out on it.
https://www.libdemvoice.org/banning-children-from-online-games-and-spying-on-every-device-why-we-must-oppose-baroness-benjamins-attack-on-liberty-78846.html
Support the UK ORG!
https://action.openrightsgroup.org/tell-your-mp-online-safety-act-isn%E2%80%99t-working
What a silly country
Why don’t they just ban children? They’re clearly such a danger to themselves, it’s for the best at this point, the fuckers can’t do anything right
One could quip that if one had instead banned Mr. Mountbatten-Windsor from using VPNs or for that matter, using children, a lot of sorrow could have been saved in advance.
Dang they can just skip to the part where they start executing every adult to „protect the kids?“ This death by a thousand cuts approach is obnoxious
How dumb is the uk government / house of lords ??
Anything and everything they can to get people to upload their IDs to the internet and have 100% confirmation of who’s posting what.
It don’t worry it’s not a yk only thing. The US is trying to go that way federally, as well as several states . Australia too. And I’m sure dozens of other countries are chomping at the bit to do the same.
Ban every UK politician from the internet and leave the children alone.
The government be like ; You need to make children for the future. Also we use children’s as an excuse to make the future shit
Just as we all predicted. Happened faster than I thought though
Gross no. If they ban it there it sets a precedent. It isnt about protecting children
No way the children are going to get around the ban using… a VPN
UK Lords are idiots
Good thing the VPN companies know I’m a grown up, because they already have my credit card information
/s
Here we go I knew this would be happening.
Wait, is this before or after the appointment if a bunch of Starmer’s yes men to The Lords?
VPNs are open source technology, people will just make their own
The more you swine damage the internet, the harder we’ll route around it. Damage international and domestic carry enough with your idiot policies and demands, and we’ll make our own goddamn internet, with hookers and blow, and arrange international peering ourselves. Keep tightening your grip, and there will be free unencumbered wifi on every street. You will quickly find your hands empty, and your ears full of laughter.
Is this China??? I guess so, how can these people be so dumb???? They continue to amaze…meanwhile there are 20 somethings growing up that don’t even know who the Fing Beatles are….in THIS country FFS
That’s actually a crazy work around to the problem of it being technically impossible to truly block VPNs. Just put the stupid age check in front of the VPN, which will work on any legitimate VPN company.
How?
Do Brits genuinely enjoy their government screwing them over or is there something I’m missing.
Brit politicians are brain dead
There are a handful of broadband ISPs in the UK.
And presumably most children have parents or guardians who pay phone and internet bills.
There must be a better solution than what is effectively banning petrol to prevent kids joyriding.
and how will the VPN’s know it’s children using them?
Here we go… Age/ID verification for VPNs under the guise of protect the children…
This is step 2 btw. Step 1 was protecting the kiddies from erm… porn? I don’t know. I always thought that was a parents job but you know…
This is the template. If you don’t have it now then it’s coming soon.
All that lovely sexy data on your internet connection and device. It could make a totalitarian state orgasm. The Stasi ain’t got shit on these people.
Lord propose something totally unenforceable, in yet another demonstration how the elderly and non-it literate elements of UK government sees technology.
“We can ban cigarettes, we can just ban vpn”
if youre over the age of 55, you shouldnt be allowed to have an opinion on banning tech, unless you possess some certificate. Im so sick of listening to old farts trying to ban the wrong things, for „safety.“ Fucking retire already and let the next gen make reasonable decisions
The House of Lords should not exist.
* „Any relevant device supplied for use in the UK must have installed tamper-proof system software which is highly effective at preventing the recording, transmitting… and viewing of CSAM using that device.“*
So…DSLRs? Instax cameras?
Depends what they mean by „relevant“, but one would think cameras would fall under that. Absurd.
Fucking why????? I can’t fucking take this shit anymore man :(((
Every device has parental controls these days, FFS! We don’t need laws when the tools to „protect the children“ are already made!
How’s this going to work? My kids phone is permanently connected to my self hosted VPN, so the device is basically always on my home network, where I can control web and other traffic on their device.
They’re gonna make it illegal to regulate my kids internet activity?
UK Lords must be 50+ years old dudes that have no idea what technology is. I am pretty sure many kids will go around that ban.
WTF?! A) who cares?
B) so?
C) creepy old aristocrats wasn’t to make sure they can track their targets through the internet, I assume?
D) WTF??
UK has gone to hell.
Ah the Lords. So out of touch as always. And just making the lives of anyone benethe them worse
When will news articles stop framing it as a „ban for children“? The correct headline should be „UK Lords propose mandatory ID collection and deanonymization requirements for VPNs“
Good luck enforcing that
Banned the children by making every adult sign in with their internet ID card. Yeah. Not happening pal.