The West faces war with Russia on a scale not seen since the days of “our grandparents and great-grandparents”, the head of Nato warned on Thursday.
Mark Rutte, Nato secretary-general, said Vladimir Putin had chosen the alliance as his “next target” in some of his strongest warnings yet on the prospect of war spreading across Europe.
“Conflict is at our door. Russia has brought war back to Europe, and we must be prepared for the scale of war our grandparents or great-grandparents endured,” Mr Rutte said in Berlin.
“We need to be crystal clear about the threat. We are Russia’s next target, and we are already in harm’s way.”
Mr Trump accused European leaders of being “weak” earlier this week and has outlined plans to pivot away from traditional security alliances on the continent.
They should have been „prepared“ already by now wtf.
wombat9278 on
Fuck trump Europe needs to stand up, enforce a no fly zone and give Ukraine all that it can. Russia must be stopped. It’s now while it’s weak or in 5 to 10 yes when they’ve rebuilt, either way we fight them.
JohnDorian0506 on
NATO will finish Russia in the matter of weeks.
Phosistication on
Well, Russia has been at war with most of the world for decades now so…
humanBonemealCoffee on
this is it, the big one.
JuggernautTypical670 on
When is the assination? Take him out, have someone sensible take his place before its really to late.
Idk how the world, how US citizens are letting this happen.
It baffles my mind.
He’s a president FOR the people, are there really people agreeing with what he’s doing??
Scooter-Assault-200 on
Finally, lets finish these criminal fucks once and for all!
HoboBaggins008 on
It’ll be war with Russia and the US, I’m afraid.
We’re a few weeks away from Trump openly supporting Russia, not just with words but with money, oil, and arms.
We’re the baddies.
Chrismonn on
Oh aye? Russia and what army?
Same_Common4485 on
This is a moot point when right wing politicians start winning elections in Europe.
TheWesternMythos on
Man when this war broke out I was saying the west should be more involved, kinetic if it came to it.
Establish a no fly zone over uncontested parts of Ukraine. Even conduct strikes on uncontested parts of Ukraine. Ukraine would have to do the work of liberation on its own.
I got a lot of push back from people say, „do you want nuclear war? That is how you get nuclear war! “
But I never got a clear answer as to why putin would end his own life because America shot down a plane or two over a different country. But not end his own life after his army collapses in Ukraine and his economy collapses at home!?!
There is no guarantee the war widens. It’s makes sense to prepare even if it’s not a 100% certainty.
But to all the people who were so adamant the west’s slow roll strategy is the best plan to avoid war, where is logic???
Made absolutely no sense then. Makes no sense now. Putin will stop when forced to or after he remakes the USSR. Getting older is not going to make him more patient. Years of war and transforming (dismantling) the economy will not make him less risk adverse.
It’s so disheartening how smart people can be so blind to obvious logic. Can have such difficulty imagining motivation outside of their own. But based on popular consensus on UAPs and AI, does unfortunately track.
BaeIz on
Dw NATO I’m a Russian person living in Canada. The affordability crisis is beating tf out of me daily
Nero9214 on
How can NATO be next after Ukraine if Russia can’t even get past the donbas against a non NATO country. Seems like bullshit to me. Either way, NATO countries must increase defence spending on the assumption Putin tries, Trump is correct about that.
AccomplishedSock7578 on
Si vis pacem, para bellum
h2power237 on
NATO is a divided force not capable of doing anything other then patrolling air space and whining about incursions. Not a single drone incursion dealt with out of the hundreds that occurred over sensitive military facilities in past 6 months.
Puuhis71 on
North is ready, no worries
myrainyday on
What exactly are they doing to prepare god damn it.
The-Joon on
PSA – (that means public service announcement). If you want an evil dictator to quit waging wars and killing hundreds of thousands of people, take out the dictator. I’ll be out of the office until tomorrow afternoon. If ya’ll need anymore problems addressed, just leave a comment. I’ll have your solutions in a timely manner. Take care.
Orlok_Tsubodai on
I’m starting to be more worried about war with the US.
Intelligent-Tear-857 on
Good advise.
For_The_Emperor923 on
Its a load of bullshit, russia is already basically a legless zombie in a coma ward.
Its only the meat grinder and occasional piece of tech that rolls off the line left now.
No way in any situation can they wage a 2 front war with a more prepared enemy than ukraine was.
I dont get why ANYONE takes this shit seriously. Its just warmongers mongering and stirring up fears and the people.
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The West faces war with Russia on a scale not seen since the days of “our grandparents and great-grandparents”, the head of Nato warned on Thursday.
Mark Rutte, Nato secretary-general, said Vladimir Putin had chosen the alliance as his “next target” in some of his strongest warnings yet on the prospect of war spreading across Europe.
“Conflict is at our door. Russia has brought war back to Europe, and we must be prepared for the scale of war our grandparents or great-grandparents endured,” Mr Rutte said in Berlin.
“We need to be crystal clear about the threat. We are Russia’s next target, and we are already in harm’s way.”
The assessment came towards the end of a frantic week of diplomacy, as Kyiv and European allies [submitted a new Ukraine peace proposal to the Trump administration](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/12/09/trump-zelensky-must-accept-peace-deal-ukraine-losing/) that will be discussed in Paris this weekend.
Mr Trump accused European leaders of being “weak” earlier this week and has outlined plans to pivot away from traditional security alliances on the continent.
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They should have been „prepared“ already by now wtf.
Fuck trump Europe needs to stand up, enforce a no fly zone and give Ukraine all that it can. Russia must be stopped. It’s now while it’s weak or in 5 to 10 yes when they’ve rebuilt, either way we fight them.
NATO will finish Russia in the matter of weeks.
Well, Russia has been at war with most of the world for decades now so…
this is it, the big one.
When is the assination? Take him out, have someone sensible take his place before its really to late.
Idk how the world, how US citizens are letting this happen.
It baffles my mind.
He’s a president FOR the people, are there really people agreeing with what he’s doing??
Finally, lets finish these criminal fucks once and for all!
It’ll be war with Russia and the US, I’m afraid.
We’re a few weeks away from Trump openly supporting Russia, not just with words but with money, oil, and arms.
We’re the baddies.
Oh aye? Russia and what army?
This is a moot point when right wing politicians start winning elections in Europe.
Man when this war broke out I was saying the west should be more involved, kinetic if it came to it.
Establish a no fly zone over uncontested parts of Ukraine. Even conduct strikes on uncontested parts of Ukraine. Ukraine would have to do the work of liberation on its own.
I got a lot of push back from people say, „do you want nuclear war? That is how you get nuclear war! “
But I never got a clear answer as to why putin would end his own life because America shot down a plane or two over a different country. But not end his own life after his army collapses in Ukraine and his economy collapses at home!?!
There is no guarantee the war widens. It’s makes sense to prepare even if it’s not a 100% certainty.
But to all the people who were so adamant the west’s slow roll strategy is the best plan to avoid war, where is logic???
Made absolutely no sense then. Makes no sense now. Putin will stop when forced to or after he remakes the USSR. Getting older is not going to make him more patient. Years of war and transforming (dismantling) the economy will not make him less risk adverse.
It’s so disheartening how smart people can be so blind to obvious logic. Can have such difficulty imagining motivation outside of their own. But based on popular consensus on UAPs and AI, does unfortunately track.
Dw NATO I’m a Russian person living in Canada. The affordability crisis is beating tf out of me daily
How can NATO be next after Ukraine if Russia can’t even get past the donbas against a non NATO country. Seems like bullshit to me. Either way, NATO countries must increase defence spending on the assumption Putin tries, Trump is correct about that.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
NATO is a divided force not capable of doing anything other then patrolling air space and whining about incursions. Not a single drone incursion dealt with out of the hundreds that occurred over sensitive military facilities in past 6 months.
North is ready, no worries
What exactly are they doing to prepare god damn it.
PSA – (that means public service announcement). If you want an evil dictator to quit waging wars and killing hundreds of thousands of people, take out the dictator. I’ll be out of the office until tomorrow afternoon. If ya’ll need anymore problems addressed, just leave a comment. I’ll have your solutions in a timely manner. Take care.
I’m starting to be more worried about war with the US.
Good advise.
Its a load of bullshit, russia is already basically a legless zombie in a coma ward.
Its only the meat grinder and occasional piece of tech that rolls off the line left now.
No way in any situation can they wage a 2 front war with a more prepared enemy than ukraine was.
I dont get why ANYONE takes this shit seriously. Its just warmongers mongering and stirring up fears and the people.