He’s right but why withdraw now, while Russia – the legal successor to ussr is waging a war in Europe?
Because it doesn’t suit Donny boy and his boss in Moscow? So nato was always illegal? Why was it ok when USA wielded influence and had all kinds of benefits from all of this? It still does, except now Donny boy doesn’t want boss to be upset wit him
What a silly regime this is
Zlifbar on
Pepperidge Farms remembers when being a traitor and a foreign agent was a bad thing.
I_did_a_fucky_wucky on
It’s funny how they talk about funding socialist countries, while billions still go to Israel to fund the army, healthcare and education
AdviceFit1692 on
Bye
Oxen_aka_nexO on
Turns out Russians managed to win the cold war, 30 years after it supposedly ended (not for them).
hypercomms2001 on
America is becoming the “Democratic People’s Republic of America” just like Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea”, and just as isolated….
Arco123 on
Who cares what the house representative from Kentucky’s 4th district thinks? Crappy politician makes shitty proposition. As if that doesn’t happen here?
Stop blowing up shit like this, it only generates press, fear, uncertainty, and doubt. Yes, the US is on an isolationist track, but in reality the US needs Europe.
The fact that Trump is calling the EU and its leaders weak isn’t something we want to hear, but frankly, we REALLY didn’t do well when it comes to being independent from people that don’t like us.
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MC_chrome on
This is not likely to pass, for a variety of reasons.
genericuser_12345 on
Btw Massie opposes aid to Israel as well. He’s an actual isolationist, and to his credit, his views are 100% consistent, which is rare for a US politician.
lifeisahighway2023 on
If you made a list of true 1000% fucktards that are in Congress Massie is one that would be vying for 1st place.
Truthfully, his opinion is not representative of the greater portion of Congress, or America. But is he a Trump sycophant and is this bill, which has zero chance of succeeding, perhaps on behest Trump? Perhaps.
Even more likely, it was deliberately introduced to fail so that Trump can claim credit for killing it, in order to position that he is Europe’s friend, but just wants Europe to get its act together. Yes, an incredible supposition but there is a distinct possibility it is correct.
Trust nothing from Trump or any member of Congress who blindly has their head so far up Trump’s ass that their only daylight they see is from his throat. They scheme, scheme so more, and scheme on top of scheme.
Aakhkharu on
As a european, the faster the better. When the us withdraws from nato, those still delusional enought, in the eu, to think that the usa will eventually come into its senses, will have a rude awakening. This may lead to us creating an european army and even, maybe, federation, faster.
We have to do this while the ruzzi are occupied in ukraine and are too weak to open another front.
The usa has joined the axis of evil and are now an enemy. To hope that this will change any time soon is a fallacy, the americans will never see a free election again, this is now a dictatorship and will remain one.
tyler77 on
It feels like NATO is dead now anyway. It’s hard to imagine ever regaining the trust of our allies. They know the American project is unreliable and there is a contingent of the population that doesn’t want to be part of the alliance. Europe is officially on its own now. Maybe something can be reformed hopefully.
Jindujun on
A shame to see that the US has shifted so damn much in their views… And these people have the gall to say Europe is lost. Ironic, isnt it?
Star_Wombat33 on
Nothing to do with Trump, Massie is his own special variety of absolute idiocy. I actually think Trump may hate him.
Diamond1africa on
Political theater.
Rolyat_Emad on
Tom Massie is a libertarian isolationist who essentially opposes the US doing anything outside of its own borders. He is not a Trump ally as he has led the charge on releasing the Epstein files. Trump hates him to the point of insulting him and his recently deceased wife. The attack was particularly harsh even for Trump standards.
Massie is not long for the Congress I suspect. He will be primaried and replaced by a bog standard Republican brown-noser. It is a shame because he would sometimes side with the Dems on stuff.
This bill will go nowhere as the vast vast majority of congressional bills do. One of a congresspersons favorite past times is introducing bills to Congress and pointing to that as if it is an achievement when they never even get to committee stages.
All this being said I think Europeans should be aware of this strain of isolationism that is growing more and more common in the US. It is incredibly stupid and shortsighted in a globalized society but many Americans are thinking the US can shut itself off from everything and survive on its own. Again these people are mouth breathing morons but it is something to take note of
Key-Lie-364 on
With the US out, we don’t have to flatter Trump’s spray tan fat orange hole anymore right?
Sounds like a win.
PS then Ireland can join as the dope left won’t be able to rant on about American imperialism.
Illustrious_Crow_515 on
Would be like the kid on 30s being kicked out parent’s home
-SOFA-KING-VOTE- on
This guy is only useful to be a thorn in trump’s side and that’s it
Muscimol_33 on
Trump is Celebrimbor and Putin Sauron. I just didn’t figure out who plays Annatar.
Andry2 on
Let it happen so nato can finally exit from the bad narrative that many people have ( caused by the presence of the USA in nato )
nuteteme on
There will come a time when the US will seek forgiveness, the damage is already done. I think the EU does not speak out due to the existing ties and relations, once these are replaced … the relationship will get colder and colder. Even with a new regime in DC, the credibility is lost.
LadyZoe1 on
Let the US leave NATO. Now.
Striper_Cape on
He certainly is a consistent fucker
Cute-Breadfruit3368 on
then in return, US of A needs to be removed from the chain of information of all intelligence sharing, full stop.
IRespectYouMyFriend on
This will be studied for centuries maybe even millennia how Russia managed to defeat America.
The art of war 101, if you can’t win on the battlefield, do it in secret.
I don’t know who or what organization is responsible for this, but it’s impressive.
Absolutely insane and the end of the modern era, but impressive all the same.
I hope we offer good Americans and avenue of immigration before we go to war with them.
wels-8888 on
stupid ass
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I don’t care anymore.
He’s right but why withdraw now, while Russia – the legal successor to ussr is waging a war in Europe?
Because it doesn’t suit Donny boy and his boss in Moscow? So nato was always illegal? Why was it ok when USA wielded influence and had all kinds of benefits from all of this? It still does, except now Donny boy doesn’t want boss to be upset wit him
What a silly regime this is
Pepperidge Farms remembers when being a traitor and a foreign agent was a bad thing.
It’s funny how they talk about funding socialist countries, while billions still go to Israel to fund the army, healthcare and education
Bye
Turns out Russians managed to win the cold war, 30 years after it supposedly ended (not for them).
America is becoming the “Democratic People’s Republic of America” just like Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea”, and just as isolated….
Who cares what the house representative from Kentucky’s 4th district thinks? Crappy politician makes shitty proposition. As if that doesn’t happen here?
Stop blowing up shit like this, it only generates press, fear, uncertainty, and doubt. Yes, the US is on an isolationist track, but in reality the US needs Europe.
The fact that Trump is calling the EU and its leaders weak isn’t something we want to hear, but frankly, we REALLY didn’t do well when it comes to being independent from people that don’t like us.
</rant>
This is not likely to pass, for a variety of reasons.
Btw Massie opposes aid to Israel as well. He’s an actual isolationist, and to his credit, his views are 100% consistent, which is rare for a US politician.
If you made a list of true 1000% fucktards that are in Congress Massie is one that would be vying for 1st place.
Truthfully, his opinion is not representative of the greater portion of Congress, or America. But is he a Trump sycophant and is this bill, which has zero chance of succeeding, perhaps on behest Trump? Perhaps.
Even more likely, it was deliberately introduced to fail so that Trump can claim credit for killing it, in order to position that he is Europe’s friend, but just wants Europe to get its act together. Yes, an incredible supposition but there is a distinct possibility it is correct.
Trust nothing from Trump or any member of Congress who blindly has their head so far up Trump’s ass that their only daylight they see is from his throat. They scheme, scheme so more, and scheme on top of scheme.
As a european, the faster the better. When the us withdraws from nato, those still delusional enought, in the eu, to think that the usa will eventually come into its senses, will have a rude awakening. This may lead to us creating an european army and even, maybe, federation, faster.
We have to do this while the ruzzi are occupied in ukraine and are too weak to open another front.
The usa has joined the axis of evil and are now an enemy. To hope that this will change any time soon is a fallacy, the americans will never see a free election again, this is now a dictatorship and will remain one.
It feels like NATO is dead now anyway. It’s hard to imagine ever regaining the trust of our allies. They know the American project is unreliable and there is a contingent of the population that doesn’t want to be part of the alliance. Europe is officially on its own now. Maybe something can be reformed hopefully.
A shame to see that the US has shifted so damn much in their views… And these people have the gall to say Europe is lost. Ironic, isnt it?
Nothing to do with Trump, Massie is his own special variety of absolute idiocy. I actually think Trump may hate him.
Political theater.
Tom Massie is a libertarian isolationist who essentially opposes the US doing anything outside of its own borders. He is not a Trump ally as he has led the charge on releasing the Epstein files. Trump hates him to the point of insulting him and his recently deceased wife. The attack was particularly harsh even for Trump standards.
Massie is not long for the Congress I suspect. He will be primaried and replaced by a bog standard Republican brown-noser. It is a shame because he would sometimes side with the Dems on stuff.
This bill will go nowhere as the vast vast majority of congressional bills do. One of a congresspersons favorite past times is introducing bills to Congress and pointing to that as if it is an achievement when they never even get to committee stages.
All this being said I think Europeans should be aware of this strain of isolationism that is growing more and more common in the US. It is incredibly stupid and shortsighted in a globalized society but many Americans are thinking the US can shut itself off from everything and survive on its own. Again these people are mouth breathing morons but it is something to take note of
With the US out, we don’t have to flatter Trump’s spray tan fat orange hole anymore right?
Sounds like a win.
PS then Ireland can join as the dope left won’t be able to rant on about American imperialism.
Would be like the kid on 30s being kicked out parent’s home
This guy is only useful to be a thorn in trump’s side and that’s it
Trump is Celebrimbor and Putin Sauron. I just didn’t figure out who plays Annatar.
Let it happen so nato can finally exit from the bad narrative that many people have ( caused by the presence of the USA in nato )
There will come a time when the US will seek forgiveness, the damage is already done. I think the EU does not speak out due to the existing ties and relations, once these are replaced … the relationship will get colder and colder. Even with a new regime in DC, the credibility is lost.
Let the US leave NATO. Now.
He certainly is a consistent fucker
then in return, US of A needs to be removed from the chain of information of all intelligence sharing, full stop.
This will be studied for centuries maybe even millennia how Russia managed to defeat America.
The art of war 101, if you can’t win on the battlefield, do it in secret.
I don’t know who or what organization is responsible for this, but it’s impressive.
Absolutely insane and the end of the modern era, but impressive all the same.
I hope we offer good Americans and avenue of immigration before we go to war with them.
stupid ass