Anti-Hass-Gesetz geriet ins Stocken, nachdem Frasers Büro einen Deal ohne Zustimmung des PMO ausgehandelt hatte: Quellen
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberals-anti-hate-bill-stalled-9.7007038
Anti-Hass-Gesetz geriet ins Stocken, nachdem Frasers Büro einen Deal ohne Zustimmung des PMO ausgehandelt hatte: Quellen
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberals-anti-hate-bill-stalled-9.7007038
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This needs to pass, religious views cannot be an excuse for harassing people belonging to other religions and preventing them from their places of worship. When we as citizens show an inability to honour the social contract the government is obligated to step in and define explicit limits to what is accepted behaviour.
>Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet told reporters last week that his party struck a deal with the Liberals to amend the Criminal Code to remove a religious exemption from Canada’s hate speech laws. The deal was first reported by the National Post.
Good. Using faith to promote hatred isn’t somehow more acceptable than secular hatred. It’s all hate, and should be subject to the same criminal scrutiny.
>But news of the deal between the Liberals and the Bloc Québécois prompted religious groups, including Catholics and Muslims, to speak out, saying it could [chill or even criminalize religious speech.](https://caedm.ca/catholics-urged-to-take-immediate-action-on-bill-c-9/)
An exemption existing does not unwind the hatred within the speech. That they want it to exist is acknowledging that their faith includes hate; because if there was no hate there would be no need for an exemption.
>Last week, Blanchet said he was concerned the Liberals were trying to kick the bill into 2026.
That seems certain at this point. There’s not much time left in 2025.
Am I the only one who finds the idea that Fraser acted on his own implausible? When was the last time a Minister just freelanced a deal with an opposition party in a minority parliament? Never?
I feel as if there is something more to this story. An underlining theme of Carney’s government is the ousting of Trudeau’s guard. I find it very hard to believe that Fraser would give off an impression to the Bloc that this was a done deal without the Prime Minister’s office. Carney must have seen some of the push-back against this legislation and is distancing himself to have Fraser fall on his sword like a good partisan.
If things go for the worst, Fraser gets to leave politics like he wanted to previously. Carney then gets to avoid scrutiny as all leaders seek to do; all the while a new relatively safe seat opens up for Carney to have a more aligned parliamentarian to take it up.
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I don’t see why the Liberals shouldn’t let this bill die, the main people who have been pushing it would never vote Liberal to begin with. They should have been working on a more general crime crackdown to appeal to the suburbs, because that’s the biggest place the Liberals lost support last election.
Does Carney just have no control over his own cabinet? First, Gasparro banning KNEECAP without consulting anyone but himself. Now Fraser potentially sinks the government’s chance to pass anti-hate laws because he didn’t pick up the phone to let his boss know he made a deal. BQ will want the exemption as a hard-line, and the other parties straight up won’t support it for various reasons.
The cockiness of the government and cabinet officials is really baffling. It hasn’t even been a year since the conservatives went from guaranteed majority to getting laughed at by the entire world for their embarrassing loss. Conservatives wagered their entire political operation on being “better than the other guy”, and then an even better guy came around. Now the liberals themselves adopted the “better than the other guy” strategy, but they think they’re immune to sudden shakeups in the political landscape…
Trump’s health is visibly spiralling, and PP could realistically be booted as leader. Especially if Republicans down south are too busy fighting each other post-Trump to signal boost Canadian Conservatives. Carney could very well be facing an entirely fresh slate of party leaders in the next election, which would be the worse-case scenario for a party who’s been in power 10+ years.
I applaud Blanchet for brokering that deal. And the PM should absolutely approve it. Nobody should be allowed to hide behind their religion to spread hate. No exceptions for it. Hate is wrong and shouldn’t be tolerated whether from a religion or not.
„But news of the deal between the Liberals and the Bloc Québécois prompted religious groups, including Catholics and Muslims, to speak out, saying it could chill or even criminalize religious speech.“
If an anti-HATE bill criminalize your religious speech, the bill is not the problem.
Fraser has been in politics for how long, and he doesn’t know enough to get buy in from higher before committing? Or was this Blanchet announcing that a deal had been made before Fraser had a chance to get it run past the PMO for final approval?
The Conservative opposition on C-9 amendment regarding religious text based hate speech is not surprising at all mainly given the evangelical Christian base, but it is interesting seeing the wrangling their MP’s who represent sizable Jewish constituencies are doing (Baber and Lantsman).
The Bloc amendment seems to be well supported among Jewish organizations, including CIJA who (rightfully imo) fear anti-semitism will be justified based on other religious texts, but Baber and Lantsman (especially Lantsman) are advocating pretty hard against the bill and the amendment. I don’t think they’ll remotely pay a price for this in their ridings – but they probably should be getting more flack than they are on this (which is essentially none).
The media environment for Jewish communities (particularly in the GTA, but also Montreal) has turned more rightward than it was before the Hamas attacks. This is somewhat understandable given that, at least in rhetoric, conservative candidates have pledged support for Jewish communities and Israel in more muscular ways than other parties. However, in practice this seems to be more rhetoric than actual action – and the rightward shift in media/whats app discussion groups etc lets conservatives who actually hold power off the hook for taking any action on issues that seem to matter to those communities (looking at Doug Ford).
This amendment seems to be the same phenomenon. Something that could benefit the Jewish community, but that is aggressively opposed by MP’s who make a very big show of being the greatest representatives their communities could have – and who know they won’t actually be called on it.