Der vollständige Leitfaden für den Wechsel von großen US-Technologieunternehmen zur Unterstützung ethischerer und in der EU ansässiger Unternehmen! (Jetzt mit einer Website)
Der vollständige Leitfaden für den Wechsel von großen US-Technologieunternehmen zur Unterstützung ethischerer und in der EU ansässiger Unternehmen! (Jetzt mit einer Website)
I shared a version of this guide earlier this year, but felt a website was needed to unpack the different options fully. So after an unreasonable number of hours, I put together the necessary data and website.
I hope this is digestible enough for the average person to help those looking to take that first step, or for people who are equally passionate and want to get their friends or family involved.
Every time I post these guides, there is always feedback on things that can improve, or I got wrong. Please do share, as it is the best way for these to evolve
WinterHeaven on
Linux and gaming. Tried pop os and none of my games was really working. Also my mouse and keyboard were not supported :/ .. sadly not an option yet
mrx_101 on
Why would you move from one of 3 US browsers to another US browser (Firefox), same question for a few others in the list.
SinCanDory on
For Linux, I would add OpenSuse Tumbleweed. Also I like the idea behind Zen Browser but I heard it has quite a lot of hiccups, not there yet. At least for Windows
Hezron_ruth on
This is a good guide, the website is a very nice addition. I have multiple questions, suggestions and criticism, but I will also say that I take my hat off to you for actually doing it and committing the time.
the1mrx on
Spotify should be on the list to boycott, not switch to.
hmtk1976 on
Yet still no alternative for the full Microsoft stack. Someone should really pour money into developing a true competitor.
Edit: downvotes just prove how many are utterly clueless about *business* requirements.
p_fief_martin on
I find that pretending that it is a matter of weeks is disingenuous. Some migrations are super long projects. Like immich. You just don’t install the app and go. You need to know how to run this stuff safely so you don’t lose your data. Same for file storage. You might need a NAS, delve into self hosting, understand trade offs, etc…
On another note Deezer might be originally French but it is not french owners anymore, I believe they’re from the Americas now.
Lord_Waldemar on
I’m already mostly there, the biggest hurdles are mobile OS like Android and iOS, web videos (the creators I follow are mostly exclusively on YouTube) and Steam. I have games on gog.com (would be a nice addition to this list btw) but still a huge library that I’ll never get off there except buying all the games elsewhere if they are available at all
Awyls on
I support using European alternatives but.. aside from Spotify, the difference in quality between the main products and European alternatives is genuinely insulting to even suggest it. Comically enough most viable alternatives are also American (Firefox, DuckDuckGo, Signal).
rightpolis on
What about the alternative for Reddit?
EmergencyAtTheIKEA on
There needs to be discussion about domination of Visa and MasterCard in financial systems. Domination of American big tech in the cloud sphere. And their monopoly in software ecosystem. It’s not just about a random browser or something tbh, there are far more critical areas where this needs to start.
Lysek8 on
I support European alternatives but many of these are just laughable. Plus, don’t assume because they’re European they’re nice. Cutthroat businesses are not exactly endemic to north America, and we have loooots of examples here
prueba_hola on
openSUSE > Ubuntu
snowExZe on
Operating system…? Ubuntu? First off all it’s a British company (Canonical) not EU and why prefer a company that needs to get revenue over a distro that’s completely maintained by the public and not backed by some million dollar company
mrmiwani on
Sweet, have done most of that or at least have build redundancy 🙂
clouds_visitor on
I think as a replacement for drive a very worthy mention is MEGA.
oneawesomewave on
What about Reddit?
djingo_dango on
Europe needs more builders. You should use European products because they are the best in their category not purely because of ideological reasons. You need more builders and entrepreneurs for that
debackerl on
To replace Microsoft Office, I would also advise Collabora Office, based in UK, or ONLYOFFICE, based in Latvia.
To replace Windows for gaming, I would advise a more popular option, Bazzite, which is a pure community effort (no company).
xenonheisenberg on
What about reddit?
techbear72 on
Should add Jottacloud to the file storage section. Norwegian company and servers. €6.90/mth for 1TB and a free 5GB account available to try it etc. and works just like Dropbox and all the rest of them.
made3 on
Why is Tidal in there, what’s the positive thing about it?
And where is Telegram in this?
Rough_Check_5606 on
quite honestly some of these dont make any sense, because theyre software built on core from different country/model. For example pop os really isnt american, but opensource, meaning the organization maintaining and developing it really cant impose any sort of shady practices on the user.
aicis on
Spotify ethical? Really?
Javierrr1 on
I’m sorry but most of the EU alternatives are either awful or worse and paid
charles_the_snowman on
I think for most people, switching from Windows/Apple to any version of Linux (including Ubuntu) is a non-starter.
Eddyzk on
Beyond the fact that no one is offering a Google-like integration of multiple services (Gmail, Youtube, Maps, Drive), what bothers me with switching to EU-based platforms is with ideas such as Chat Control floating around the EU, I’m not sure that I want my data *stocked* in the EU.
oshochi on
If you want to make it even more infeasible try offering alternatives for YouTube, Apple TV, Disney+, Prime Video, Netflix and HBO.
Truuuuuumpet on
Buy
Local
Skip Amazon and chinese counterparts.
Typingdude3 on
Keep in mind big US tech firms employ a lot of Europeans. Will all these European tech firms do the same or outsource to India or China?
adultdaycare81 on
7 of your 15 choices are US companies… several are US hosted. Europe just doesn’t make enough viable software to really do this.
Nuvomega on
I feel like not including Reddit is crazy
arrizaba on
I miss Telegram in here.
early20s_Doomer on
why would I use EU version that noone else does ? how do I message my friends lol
Skoparov on
I think the funniest thing about such lists is that people just see that a smaller service has a somewhat similar functionality to a much more popular one and think the former can replace the latter on a whim.
It’s not only about the functionality, it’s also about the scale and whether the backend can handle it. If people actually start moving in droves to most of those obscure services on the right, they’d liverally just overwhelm it.
You also probably don’t want to look under the hood of those „European services“, as you’ll find out that most of them are reliant on at least one of the big three cloud service providers (AWS/Azure/GCP).
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I shared a version of this guide earlier this year, but felt a website was needed to unpack the different options fully. So after an unreasonable number of hours, I put together the necessary data and website.
I hope this is digestible enough for the average person to help those looking to take that first step, or for people who are equally passionate and want to get their friends or family involved.
Details:
* Site – [https://purchasewithpurpose.io/](https://purchasewithpurpose.io/)
* Code – [https://codeberg.org/purchase-with-purpose/pwp-website](https://codeberg.org/purchase-with-purpose/pwp-website)
* Hosted by [https://www.statichost.eu/](https://www.statichost.eu/)
Every time I post these guides, there is always feedback on things that can improve, or I got wrong. Please do share, as it is the best way for these to evolve
Linux and gaming. Tried pop os and none of my games was really working. Also my mouse and keyboard were not supported :/ .. sadly not an option yet
Why would you move from one of 3 US browsers to another US browser (Firefox), same question for a few others in the list.
For Linux, I would add OpenSuse Tumbleweed. Also I like the idea behind Zen Browser but I heard it has quite a lot of hiccups, not there yet. At least for Windows
This is a good guide, the website is a very nice addition. I have multiple questions, suggestions and criticism, but I will also say that I take my hat off to you for actually doing it and committing the time.
Spotify should be on the list to boycott, not switch to.
Yet still no alternative for the full Microsoft stack. Someone should really pour money into developing a true competitor.
Edit: downvotes just prove how many are utterly clueless about *business* requirements.
I find that pretending that it is a matter of weeks is disingenuous. Some migrations are super long projects. Like immich. You just don’t install the app and go. You need to know how to run this stuff safely so you don’t lose your data. Same for file storage. You might need a NAS, delve into self hosting, understand trade offs, etc…
On another note Deezer might be originally French but it is not french owners anymore, I believe they’re from the Americas now.
I’m already mostly there, the biggest hurdles are mobile OS like Android and iOS, web videos (the creators I follow are mostly exclusively on YouTube) and Steam. I have games on gog.com (would be a nice addition to this list btw) but still a huge library that I’ll never get off there except buying all the games elsewhere if they are available at all
I support using European alternatives but.. aside from Spotify, the difference in quality between the main products and European alternatives is genuinely insulting to even suggest it. Comically enough most viable alternatives are also American (Firefox, DuckDuckGo, Signal).
What about the alternative for Reddit?
There needs to be discussion about domination of Visa and MasterCard in financial systems. Domination of American big tech in the cloud sphere. And their monopoly in software ecosystem. It’s not just about a random browser or something tbh, there are far more critical areas where this needs to start.
I support European alternatives but many of these are just laughable. Plus, don’t assume because they’re European they’re nice. Cutthroat businesses are not exactly endemic to north America, and we have loooots of examples here
openSUSE > Ubuntu
Operating system…? Ubuntu? First off all it’s a British company (Canonical) not EU and why prefer a company that needs to get revenue over a distro that’s completely maintained by the public and not backed by some million dollar company
Sweet, have done most of that or at least have build redundancy 🙂
I think as a replacement for drive a very worthy mention is MEGA.
What about Reddit?
Europe needs more builders. You should use European products because they are the best in their category not purely because of ideological reasons. You need more builders and entrepreneurs for that
To replace Microsoft Office, I would also advise Collabora Office, based in UK, or ONLYOFFICE, based in Latvia.
To replace Windows for gaming, I would advise a more popular option, Bazzite, which is a pure community effort (no company).
What about reddit?
Should add Jottacloud to the file storage section. Norwegian company and servers. €6.90/mth for 1TB and a free 5GB account available to try it etc. and works just like Dropbox and all the rest of them.
Why is Tidal in there, what’s the positive thing about it?
And where is Telegram in this?
quite honestly some of these dont make any sense, because theyre software built on core from different country/model. For example pop os really isnt american, but opensource, meaning the organization maintaining and developing it really cant impose any sort of shady practices on the user.
Spotify ethical? Really?
I’m sorry but most of the EU alternatives are either awful or worse and paid
I think for most people, switching from Windows/Apple to any version of Linux (including Ubuntu) is a non-starter.
Beyond the fact that no one is offering a Google-like integration of multiple services (Gmail, Youtube, Maps, Drive), what bothers me with switching to EU-based platforms is with ideas such as Chat Control floating around the EU, I’m not sure that I want my data *stocked* in the EU.
If you want to make it even more infeasible try offering alternatives for YouTube, Apple TV, Disney+, Prime Video, Netflix and HBO.
Buy
Local
Skip Amazon and chinese counterparts.
Keep in mind big US tech firms employ a lot of Europeans. Will all these European tech firms do the same or outsource to India or China?
7 of your 15 choices are US companies… several are US hosted. Europe just doesn’t make enough viable software to really do this.
I feel like not including Reddit is crazy
I miss Telegram in here.
why would I use EU version that noone else does ? how do I message my friends lol
I think the funniest thing about such lists is that people just see that a smaller service has a somewhat similar functionality to a much more popular one and think the former can replace the latter on a whim.
It’s not only about the functionality, it’s also about the scale and whether the backend can handle it. If people actually start moving in droves to most of those obscure services on the right, they’d liverally just overwhelm it.
You also probably don’t want to look under the hood of those „European services“, as you’ll find out that most of them are reliant on at least one of the big three cloud service providers (AWS/Azure/GCP).