Let’s remember, the white nationalist gave illegal orders at the approval of the administration.
danceswithporn on
If it were headed for the U.S., the boat would need like 3000 gallons of fuel. Even if that little boat could carry 60 barrels of fuel, there’d be no room for a crew of 11 and the explosion would be much larger than we saw.
RamonaQ-JunieB on
The military does what it does best: kills people, lies about everything, then pushes the narrative about how what happened was “to protect us.”
Admiral Bradley was supposed to have a “stellar” reputation. After his bullshit story, nope, not buying anything from him or anyone else.
rom_rom57 on
With 350 mile range, it couldn’t make it even if it tried.
HornyFerret4032 on
Lol, classic Pete. Spinning tales without checking facts first. No surprise there. Love how the narrative crumbles when that lil‘ detail drops. Wonder what his next ‚truth‘ will be.
RhubarbMaster9956 on
I don’t believe any of them are/were. This isn’t 1980’s where drug boats are running around making deliveries out in the open. And they’re just still out there using boats while all this is going down, essentially becoming sitting ducks?
It doesn’t make sense.
FitWrap1959 on
‚Suriname is a small country on the northeastern coast of South America.‘ Heading southeast from Venezuela is kind of a roundabout way of approaching the US coastline. I guess that they were planning on heading south, rounding the tip of Tierra del Fuego and then heading north along the w*est* coast of South America, in order to avoid detection by the US navy. That’s a long trip. Wouldn’t the cocaine be kind of shitty by the time that they arrived in San Diego?
BahutF1 on
And the cash wasn’t heading to trump&friends pockets. So.. yes pete, kaboom.
mindfungus on
Instead of figurative evisceration, why not impeach, litigate, prosecute, and imprison?
falsekoala on
Of course it wasn’t. It was 2500km away from Florida.
indorian on
Oh c’mon…facts don’t matter to this administration. We exist upon wild unfounded claims for the immediate future.
crepeyweirdough on
I want to know who these people actually are and why the government wants them dead
CurrentlyLucid on
Mass murderer.
BestInteraction1669 on
For all anyone knows they were doing a fishing trip, or a bachelor party boat trip, or going to whale watch or something. The fact is that they have no idea who these people were and what they were doing. But they wanted to have a big show so they could build a case to attack Venezuela. This is murder, plain and simple
A012A012 on
A friendly reminder that it was a republican led congress that approved the nomination of pete , who was the first defense secretary to ever have to promise to stop drinking if he was nominated.
A history of war crimes when he was deployed along with infidelity , domestic violence and the drinking.
And Congress still said to themselves.Yes , this violent reckless alcoholic podcaster deserves to lead the most powerful defense department on the planet
schizeckinosy on
It’s almost like they have no idea how far away Venezuela is
Proud3GenAthst on
„**Trump** is ordering the US military to **extrajudicially kill** boaters off the coast of **Venezuela** out of **suspicion** of **smuggling drugs** to the **US**“
What did I just do? I summarized the issue into simple sentence with all the keywords. So let’s dissect it a little bit.
Trump – Is a career criminal who just pardoned a former head of drug cartel convicted of smuggling 400 tons of cocaine.
Extrajudicially kill – self explanatory problem. Extrajudicial killing is contrary to the rule of law, due process and the values of western civilization, something that most nazis claim to care about.
Venezuela – They already blew up boats from Trinidad and Tobago and Colombia. Their intel must suck. They definitely shouldn’t rely on their intel to tell who is it OK to Extrajudicially kill. Also, only about 10% of drugs come from Venezuela. And I doubt a significant portion of that is by boats.
Suspicion – the same issue as Extrajudicial killing.
Smuggling drugs – Since when is the penalty for smuggling drugs Extrajudicial execution? Especially when under no law was smuggling drugs ever punishable by death? And where’s the evidence? If they had any, they’d show it. So far, the only piece of evidence are a pictures from a drug bust from 2017.
US – What’s even the evidence that the boats are coming to the US? To summarize. Trump is killing people located in places where he has no jurisdiction with no evidence that they’re even committing crime or even that the crime would be committed somewhere where he has a jurisdiction.
Alert-Meringue2291 on
It’s easy to see the dilemma. On the one hand, you can capture these people alive, bring them to trial in the US, try to get a conviction on drug trafficking and then Trump would feel compelled to pardon them for a fee. Or, commit a war crime. The MAGA will always go with the war crime. Nazis just being Nazis.
HotTakes4Free on
Meanwhile, opioid deaths (including from fentanyl), which are by far the most serious drug problem, have been dropping for four years, for several reasons. Why doesn’t this admin. just take credit for that, and try to encourage the trend, instead of escalating a war on the supply side?
It’s not about drugs. It’s about starting a war so they can cheat the people out of voting in the mid term
Elections.
Trump has pardoned SEVERAL convicted proved drug lords
It’s about murdering people illegally from countries that don’t stand a chance against us so they can subvert the will of the people and keep stripping the metaphorical copper wiring out of the White House
BUSY_EATING_ASS on
We’re getting to the „Yeah you know what? We did it. Fuck you.“
scarr3g on
Iirc, many, if not all, of these boats were not ABLE to make it to the USA.
AmelaPandersen on
Stop trying to pin down the semantics of the boat.
Focus on how one can actually punish him for it. That’s what they’re doing while we’re futzing around with definitions.
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Oh, I’m sure now repercussions will start…
Let’s remember, the white nationalist gave illegal orders at the approval of the administration.
If it were headed for the U.S., the boat would need like 3000 gallons of fuel. Even if that little boat could carry 60 barrels of fuel, there’d be no room for a crew of 11 and the explosion would be much larger than we saw.
The military does what it does best: kills people, lies about everything, then pushes the narrative about how what happened was “to protect us.”
Admiral Bradley was supposed to have a “stellar” reputation. After his bullshit story, nope, not buying anything from him or anyone else.
With 350 mile range, it couldn’t make it even if it tried.
Lol, classic Pete. Spinning tales without checking facts first. No surprise there. Love how the narrative crumbles when that lil‘ detail drops. Wonder what his next ‚truth‘ will be.
I don’t believe any of them are/were. This isn’t 1980’s where drug boats are running around making deliveries out in the open. And they’re just still out there using boats while all this is going down, essentially becoming sitting ducks?
It doesn’t make sense.
‚Suriname is a small country on the northeastern coast of South America.‘ Heading southeast from Venezuela is kind of a roundabout way of approaching the US coastline. I guess that they were planning on heading south, rounding the tip of Tierra del Fuego and then heading north along the w*est* coast of South America, in order to avoid detection by the US navy. That’s a long trip. Wouldn’t the cocaine be kind of shitty by the time that they arrived in San Diego?
And the cash wasn’t heading to trump&friends pockets. So.. yes pete, kaboom.
Instead of figurative evisceration, why not impeach, litigate, prosecute, and imprison?
Of course it wasn’t. It was 2500km away from Florida.
Oh c’mon…facts don’t matter to this administration. We exist upon wild unfounded claims for the immediate future.
I want to know who these people actually are and why the government wants them dead
Mass murderer.
For all anyone knows they were doing a fishing trip, or a bachelor party boat trip, or going to whale watch or something. The fact is that they have no idea who these people were and what they were doing. But they wanted to have a big show so they could build a case to attack Venezuela. This is murder, plain and simple
A friendly reminder that it was a republican led congress that approved the nomination of pete , who was the first defense secretary to ever have to promise to stop drinking if he was nominated.
A history of war crimes when he was deployed along with infidelity , domestic violence and the drinking.
And Congress still said to themselves.Yes , this violent reckless alcoholic podcaster deserves to lead the most powerful defense department on the planet
It’s almost like they have no idea how far away Venezuela is
„**Trump** is ordering the US military to **extrajudicially kill** boaters off the coast of **Venezuela** out of **suspicion** of **smuggling drugs** to the **US**“
What did I just do? I summarized the issue into simple sentence with all the keywords. So let’s dissect it a little bit.
Trump – Is a career criminal who just pardoned a former head of drug cartel convicted of smuggling 400 tons of cocaine.
Extrajudicially kill – self explanatory problem. Extrajudicial killing is contrary to the rule of law, due process and the values of western civilization, something that most nazis claim to care about.
Venezuela – They already blew up boats from Trinidad and Tobago and Colombia. Their intel must suck. They definitely shouldn’t rely on their intel to tell who is it OK to Extrajudicially kill. Also, only about 10% of drugs come from Venezuela. And I doubt a significant portion of that is by boats.
Suspicion – the same issue as Extrajudicial killing.
Smuggling drugs – Since when is the penalty for smuggling drugs Extrajudicial execution? Especially when under no law was smuggling drugs ever punishable by death? And where’s the evidence? If they had any, they’d show it. So far, the only piece of evidence are a pictures from a drug bust from 2017.
US – What’s even the evidence that the boats are coming to the US? To summarize. Trump is killing people located in places where he has no jurisdiction with no evidence that they’re even committing crime or even that the crime would be committed somewhere where he has a jurisdiction.
It’s easy to see the dilemma. On the one hand, you can capture these people alive, bring them to trial in the US, try to get a conviction on drug trafficking and then Trump would feel compelled to pardon them for a fee. Or, commit a war crime. The MAGA will always go with the war crime. Nazis just being Nazis.
Meanwhile, opioid deaths (including from fentanyl), which are by far the most serious drug problem, have been dropping for four years, for several reasons. Why doesn’t this admin. just take credit for that, and try to encourage the trend, instead of escalating a war on the supply side?
https://www.addictiongroup.org/resources/fentanyl-statistics/
It’s not about drugs. It’s about starting a war so they can cheat the people out of voting in the mid term
Elections.
Trump has pardoned SEVERAL convicted proved drug lords
It’s about murdering people illegally from countries that don’t stand a chance against us so they can subvert the will of the people and keep stripping the metaphorical copper wiring out of the White House
We’re getting to the „Yeah you know what? We did it. Fuck you.“
Iirc, many, if not all, of these boats were not ABLE to make it to the USA.
Stop trying to pin down the semantics of the boat.
Focus on how one can actually punish him for it. That’s what they’re doing while we’re futzing around with definitions.