Ich bin ein Einwanderer aus der EU und lebe in Norwegen. Ich mag Politik, ich verfolge die Politik Norwegens, aber natürlich vermisse ich etwas über die Geschichte der norwegischen Politik, über die Kultur, über das Gesetz. Ich sehe, dass die Partei Venstre kürzlich eine Kampagne für den Beitritt Norwegens zur EU gestartet hat.
[https://www.nrk.no/norge/venstres-forste-valglofte\_-ny-eu-kamp-1.16814143](https://www.nrk.no/norge/venstres-forste-valglofte_-ny-eu-kamp-1.16814143)
[https://www.venstre.no/artikkel/2024/03/21/venstre-leder-guri-melby-vil-ta-norge-inn-i-eu/](https://www.venstre.no/artikkel/2024/03/21/venstre-leder-guri-melby-vil-ta-norge-inn-i-eu/)
[https://www.venstre.no/eutforkeren](https://www.venstre.no/eutforkeren) Ich weiß, dass es bereits 2 Referenden gab, die NEIN zum EU-Beitritt sagten. Wie ist die aktuelle Stimmung in der norwegischen Bevölkerung und den Parteien zu diesem Thema? Welche Seite würde gewinnen, wenn es morgen ein Referendum gäbe? Gab es in den letzten Jahren möglicherweise eine Verschiebung aufgrund der neuen Generationen oder neuer Faktoren, die ins Spiel kamen? Was ist Ihre persönliche Meinung und was sind die Gründe dafür? Glauben Sie, dass ein solches Referendum kurzfristig stattfinden wird? Bonusfrage: Wie wäre es mit der Einführung des Euro als Währung?
https://old.reddit.com/r/Norway/comments/1blpktx/current_feel_about_norways_entry_into_the/
Von 21_ct_schizoid_man
6 Kommentare
I have no problems with a new referendum.
I remember the last referendum. I expected I would be pro-EU membership then, because I really support the EU. But the more the campaign went on the more I leaned against joining because Norway’s economy is so different.
Oil and gas won’t last forever, and Norway has been clever at “saving” the earnings through our sovereign fund. But because of the high GDP from oil and gas we would need to pay a lot more to EU, sort of transferring earnings to EU with the hope EU will help us when the energy money runs out.
Fishing was another issue.
Plus the EEA terms + Schengen serve us well and makes us a part of the common market anyways.
It is not good for Norway to enter EU, we lose more than we gain, it is better for a country as independent as Norway to stay independent. We will just need to hard carry the countries that are not doing the best decisions with the resources they have if we join EU. If the standard was higher, I would happly that Norway joins.
The pro EU side never accepted the results of the votes. Norway has been moving ever closer as a result of the disrespect of the peoples opinion. Now the argument is that the young people did not get to participate so we should have a new vote.
The EU tries its hardest to bleed Norway dry anyway they can. They’ve tried writing out fishing quotas in our seas, they tried to regulate Oil and Gas, they used Russian gas to keep the price of Norwegian gas below market price, they’ve succeeded in getting our hydro electricity more or less.
It’s an uphill battle most bureaucrats and politicians are pro EU and eventually there will be a new vote and then it will probably be a huge issue.
Notice how the NO side has to win every time, but if the YES side wins once and its over.
We will never join EU, we want to make our own decisions
I remember the last one, and it was veeery close, like 49/51. I personally would have no problem with a new „round“, but I expect that the opinion today is more anti-EU than it was the last time around. Norway/Norwegians seems to have more of an anti-EU stance today. In the last referendum it was mostly a „farm against city“ thing – with the usual amount of pro/anti propaganda…
So… at the national level it seems like the political class have decided to enter the EU. Both Høyre and AP were on board to make Norway the battery of Germany. They also were okay taking payments in Euros. So this harms their own electorate and so both parties had to be onboard, this deal both increased electricity prices by at
Least an order of magnitude and also served to further weaken the NOK because now Norwegian energy companies are stuck with Euros and have to sell them for NOK and because this is a one sided bid process it just bids up the value of the Euro against the NOK as people progressively demand more NOK for each euro traded. I don’t think this is the end goal. I do think eventually the Norwegian public will be presented with an “innovative solution” to this problem, join the EU and the Euro. Devaluation of the national currency is a tactic some European countries used prior to joining the Euro. The Dutch are probably the most famous case. It does improve “productivity” of the workers as denominated in euros but it comes at a cost of everything else.
This thought process assumes that the political class has some level of agency and has motives essentially disconnected from the average voter. It does however explain the available data points.