Irlands Absolventen: „Jeder, den ich kenne, denkt darüber nach, ins Ausland zu ziehen, oder ist schon gegangen“
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/education/2025/12/01/finding-graduate-jobs-pretty-much-everyone-i-know-is-thinking-of-moving-abroad-or-has-gone-already/
Von Banania2020
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The degrees listed in the article by the people who struggled to find work here are:
– Commerce (applying for jobs after a 6 month gap)
– Arts
– A „Science“ degree (it’s bio science, or bio pharma, isn’t it?)
– Psychology
When i graduated 20 years ago, students did this, when my siblings graduated years before and after students did this.
Irish grads have and always will travel after college, its nothing new.
I’m in my 50s. For most of Irelands history emigration was the path for Irelands young. It was only from the late 1990s to 2008 that this reversed. Then more emigrated.
Then it stabilised and the population increased
So let’s not pretend this is unique.
If I was a young person today I’d organise a huge housing protest that would occur every weekend.
Moaning here will have no effect.
To be fair to the government a lot is being done but not enough.
A huge protest is needed.
Not moaning here
Let’s be real the net migration data is a serious issue and a lot of people are too virtual signaling to even see or speak about it.
Edit: preempting anyone coming for me, I’m biracial Irish
Layoffs, Capitalism, Large Landlords buying up housing wholesale, NIMBYs, AI bubble, and dated tech interview procedures have nothing to do with this, IT’S JUST BLOODY IMMIGRANTS 🤣
>Aoife Hanrahan
This is a very weird one to use.
She had a good job here, left it because she didnt get on.with her boss.
Went to Australia, seemingly couldn’t get a job there, and is now unemployed in the Netherlands.
It really seems like immigration hasnt worked out for her.
Look, Irish people tend to move to cities with the exact same problem as Ireland as. Emigration is just in our DNA at this stage and a right of passage
I’m an Irish graduate and I live abroad –
An article aimed at finding people who have felt the need to go abroad will …find people who fit that profile. I have two nephews who graduated in the last few years. Both have good jobs. So it isn’t literally everyone. But that’s not to say it isn’t an issue.
The thing is these countries that these people are moving have the same exact issues as Ireland does, almost everywhere in the western world has the same exact problems right now. Housing is expensive as fuck, young people can’t be independent, both renting or buying.
And don’t tell me that “yeah but Ireland is worse” no it’s not. Go live in Portugal, Canada or Italy and try to be independent with their local money, is the same shitshow if not worse.
At least in Ireland we have a lot of programs / schemes that help people like Help to Buyer Scheme, Affordable Scheme, First Time Buyer Scheme and Spring Board (college degrees for basically free and most of them 100% online), most of these countries don’t even have this as alternatives.
Now if you say to me that you move out of Ireland because the weather in other countries is nicer and the lifestyle is better then I totally agree. But cost of living? Everywhere is fucked up right now, literally.
I’ve been reading this same article for 20 years…
It’s Ireland.We have always had to leave for opportunity.
Saw an interesting stat. Around 63% of 25-34 year olds in Ireland have degree level education. The average in the EU is 43%. (Over all adults were over 50%). We’ve massively bought into the degrees = jobs and higher paid ones to an extent we don’t actually support in the work place. You have to ask yourself do 60% of job vacancies actually require a degree and pay for someone with a degree? Does that seem a realistic proportion of the work place to be degree based? And if the answer is no, which it should be, it shouldn’t be a surprise if those who want degree based careers are having to leave.
Most will be back with their mammies within 6 months.
Graduates emigrate and struggle in first job.
>Aoife Hanrahan did get a job in her field straight out of college, but says it was nothing like what she was expecting and was “more suited to a secretarial role” than for someone with a science degree.
>“I got a job in a pharmaceutical company when I graduated two years ago,” she says. “At first, I was delighted as I felt it was in keeping with what I had studied, but the job was not at all what I thought it would be. I understand that the newest person has to do the most mundane jobs, but really it was a joke. I spent most of my day going through spreadsheets and checking things off against other forms.
You could be twenty years working in that field and your job would still involve going through spreadsheets and checking things off.
To be honest a lot of these people sound quite entitled. There’s a tacit expectation that they should leave college and be offered a well paid, stimulating job in their field. Anything else is considered beneath them. The second person even gave up a perfectly graduate job because she wanted to do something more advanced.
Personally it took a while to get a graduate position. I worked a range of jobs in bars and offices, I did a masters and worked overseas. My first job in my industry was maternity cover for 6 months. Having that on my CV helped me to get the next, and then I progressed fine.
A bit of graft is very important to teach basic skills: dealing with customers, timekeeping, learning the value of money, etc. Personally I think it’s beneficial for young people to take a year between school and university to get a job, earn some money, and travel a bit. It’s a good opportunity to mature and live in the real world for a bit
Making room for the new arrivals,win win
Speaking as an recent Irish post grad: I attended Belfast sprawling mega campus, doing a digital leadership course that felt like a ‚make work‘ program for useless academics. Genuinely the most uninspiring and vapid bunch of professors you could place in front of our ‚digital future‘.
I moved to Ireland and spent the next two years trying to firstly find a stable apartment. No luck for two years. And a GP, again no luck in two years, as every practice in my county was booked up ‚for years now‘
I’ve made it by as an entrepreneur, I started two successful businesses. But had I been dependant upon economic figures reflecting reality (ie a job waiting for a digital communication master of science upon graduation): There are no jobs. No houses. No doctors. Nothing that I had waiting when I arrived to live and work in the US, UK or Japan, or even Spain (all of which afforded me a comfortable upper middle class lifestyle on just a BSc Communication degree)
Remind me, why would I want to stay in Ireland, honestly feels closest to a failed state I’ve ever personally encountered. Here, I either make the money myself or I don’t eat.
An really mess people up sometimes, what a mess