The Iberians doing the same thing but opposite from each other is hilarious to me
Beginning-Dingo-9812 on
Why is Belarus different from Russia and Ukraine on the map? Patronymics (modified father’s name) are actively used in Belarus, just like in these countries.
bararumb on
The usual name order used in documents in East European countries is Surname + First Name + Father’s Name. Every single map I’ve seen of this on this sub gets it wrong smh. The order provided here is not „wrong“ and wouldn’t be thought weird either, you can put the parts of the name in any order really in speech/ addressing someone, but it’s not more „usual“ than any other except Surname + First Name + Father’s Name required in official documents.
Edit: in situations where full name is required: Surname + First Name + Father’s Name
In situations where full name is not required, and you want to be extra polite when addressing them: First Name + Father’s Name
In situations where full name is not required, and you talk about the person to someone else, write the name down, etc: First Name + Surname
K0mmunismus on
That was a good possibility for Portugalsukablyat, but the Portuguese missed their opportunity, they should do something about it.
Cultural-Ad-8796 on
I never knew Hungary was a member of East Asia.
Bilaakili on
I’ve never seen a Greek use a patronym.
MrKguy on
I wonder what kind of neat combos you could make out of this, like a Karl Portugal Icelandson or something
k-one-0-two on
How does one get a surname to pass to their children in Spain and Portugal?
Key-Performance-9021 on
In Austrian (and I guess other Bavarian) dialects, it’s often surname + first name.
Crimson__Fox on
Iceland is actually First Name + Father’s First Name + Son/Dóttir
Wayss37 on
Ukraine is wrong here
Taptrick on
I’m French Canadian and it’s “first name + other first name + yet another first name + my actual first name + father’s last name”
PIKFIEZ on
In Iceland it’s often Mother’s Name for daughters. So for a couple of parents named Björn and Sigrid, their daughter would get the surname ‚Sigrigdsdottir‘ while their son would get the surname ‚Björnson‘.
-Londoneer- on
What are the Hungarians up to?
Hairy_Ghostbear on
Is it still you First Name if it isn’t your first name?
Jonlang_ on
Wales also does the same as Iceland. You’ll find people like *Tomos ap Gwilym* and *Rhŷn ap Iorwerth* or *Megan merch Ifan* where *ap* is a corruption of *mab* ‘son’ and *merch* is ‘daughter’. In fact many “British” surnames come from Welsh patronymics: Powell (< *ap Hywel*), Price and Pryce (< *ap Rhys*), Pritchard (< *ap Richard*), and Bowen (< *ab Owen*) (*ab* is just another version of *ap*.)
Xyrenial on
Huh, never knew Spain flips it to mother’s surname—cool twist!
Top-Seaweed1862 on
In Ukraine, we are switching more to the western way of Name + Surname
Stylianius1 on
Tangential curiosity: I recently found out that in many countries everyone’s names are registered completely in upper case
question12338338 on
Norway should be the same colour as Portugal.
entityrider670 on
In Romania it is almost always Surname + First name
kiber_ukr on
It’s Surname + First name + Father’s name in Ukraine
Complete_Double2090 on
Extremely useful—thanks
mrDEMON2033 on
In Ukraine Surname + Name +Father’s name
DonManolador on
Nowadays in Spain the order of the surname is not set in stone and the couple decides which one goes first
UpstairsTrifle8042 on
Love Portugal for putting the mother’s last name first
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The Iberians doing the same thing but opposite from each other is hilarious to me
Why is Belarus different from Russia and Ukraine on the map? Patronymics (modified father’s name) are actively used in Belarus, just like in these countries.
The usual name order used in documents in East European countries is Surname + First Name + Father’s Name. Every single map I’ve seen of this on this sub gets it wrong smh. The order provided here is not „wrong“ and wouldn’t be thought weird either, you can put the parts of the name in any order really in speech/ addressing someone, but it’s not more „usual“ than any other except Surname + First Name + Father’s Name required in official documents.
Edit: in situations where full name is required: Surname + First Name + Father’s Name
In situations where full name is not required, and you want to be extra polite when addressing them: First Name + Father’s Name
In situations where full name is not required, and you talk about the person to someone else, write the name down, etc: First Name + Surname
That was a good possibility for Portugalsukablyat, but the Portuguese missed their opportunity, they should do something about it.
I never knew Hungary was a member of East Asia.
I’ve never seen a Greek use a patronym.
I wonder what kind of neat combos you could make out of this, like a Karl Portugal Icelandson or something
How does one get a surname to pass to their children in Spain and Portugal?
In Austrian (and I guess other Bavarian) dialects, it’s often surname + first name.
Iceland is actually First Name + Father’s First Name + Son/Dóttir
Ukraine is wrong here
I’m French Canadian and it’s “first name + other first name + yet another first name + my actual first name + father’s last name”
In Iceland it’s often Mother’s Name for daughters. So for a couple of parents named Björn and Sigrid, their daughter would get the surname ‚Sigrigdsdottir‘ while their son would get the surname ‚Björnson‘.
What are the Hungarians up to?
Is it still you First Name if it isn’t your first name?
Wales also does the same as Iceland. You’ll find people like *Tomos ap Gwilym* and *Rhŷn ap Iorwerth* or *Megan merch Ifan* where *ap* is a corruption of *mab* ‘son’ and *merch* is ‘daughter’. In fact many “British” surnames come from Welsh patronymics: Powell (< *ap Hywel*), Price and Pryce (< *ap Rhys*), Pritchard (< *ap Richard*), and Bowen (< *ab Owen*) (*ab* is just another version of *ap*.)
Huh, never knew Spain flips it to mother’s surname—cool twist!
In Ukraine, we are switching more to the western way of Name + Surname
Tangential curiosity: I recently found out that in many countries everyone’s names are registered completely in upper case
Norway should be the same colour as Portugal.
In Romania it is almost always Surname + First name
It’s Surname + First name + Father’s name in Ukraine
Extremely useful—thanks
In Ukraine Surname + Name +Father’s name
Nowadays in Spain the order of the surname is not set in stone and the couple decides which one goes first
Love Portugal for putting the mother’s last name first