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    1. planemissediknow on

      I assume it was known that this would likely happen when the MOU was signed.

      Does this hurt Carney in any major way in Quebec? Feel like everywhere else it could end up being a net positive. Guilbeault specifically, as well as just another Trudeau era cabinet member being shuffled off

    2. thesweeterpeter on

      But hasn’t a cabinet reshuffle already started?

      He’s just jumping out before he gets pushed in a couple of weeks.

    3. Fluffy_Moose_73 on

      Is he resigning from just the caucus or as an MP? I feel like he’d make a better statement for his beliefs if he actually resigned as a mp

    4. I think the LPC tent was barely big enough to accommodate Guilbeault before, and under Trudeau it just made enough sense for him to be there, but perhaps the party is not his true best fit. The resignation from cabinet makes sense for him as he’s staked his career on climate change so personally for him it’s very difficult not to make a public statement of opposition to this. So in a way, good for him for staying true to his convictions. It will be interesting to see if remains in caucus or decides to sit as an independent or Green or NDP.

    5. TheWaySheHoes on

      Bye Guilbeault. It’s been real.

      Not sorry to see him go in the slightest. He’s an impediment to progress and I’m completely fine with him deplatforming himself from cabinet.

      Honestly it was a mistake from Carney that he wasn’t outright sacked from cabinet in the first place the way Marc Miller was if you ask me. The guy is radioactive.

    6. What happened to the talk that Guilbeault felt it was better if he stays at the table, rather than away from it? I guess we all have our limits. Carney was probably going to make him eat shit over the pipeline, and that’s not something Guilbeault was willing to do. I won’t lie, I saw this coming.

      Anyways, progressive Liberals, whether you’re an MP, staffer, or just partisan loyalist, I urge you, don’t quit the LPC over this. The LPC is stronger with diverse opinions and ideas.

      Better policy is produced when conflicting opinions come together to compromise. Your voice in the party matters to keep the LPC from going full Progressive Conservative.

      Air your grievances while playing your partisan role. Politics is at the end of the day about the bigger picture, because if you leave, you’re only going to be replaced by yes-men more aligned with the direction Carney wants to take the party. And the last thing the LPC needs is to become saturated with yes-men.

    7. This will 100% hurt him in Québec and in BC. The hate for him in the West was never reflected in his home province. Him leaving is a hit for Carney’s envirnomental credentials. Really not sure what they’re thinking right now…this really had no need to happen.

    8. unprocurable on

      I think a lot of people think this a good thing because they didn’t like Guilbeault or just view him as a Trudeau era minster that needed to be shuffled off. I think that’s pretty short sighted.

      It’s clear that this further cements Carney’s shift rightward, and his belief that he knows best overall. Which, while everyone in this sub can act like was an expected outcome of electing him, I’d argue that it’s a bit more than people realized. I do think the fallout of that will come home to roost eventually with a rift in the party.

      Carney doesn’t seem to like opposing idea’s being offered in his caucus, I think that’s an incredible weak point which will bite him. We saw how out of touch Trudeau got with an incredibly insulated PMO, I’d hope that the Liberals would have learned from that.

      I also do also think that forcing a pipeline to be built over another province will have ripple effects in Quebec, who is set to have a provincial election soon.

    9. There’s such a low chance of a pipeline even happening: price of oil is laughable, no corp wants it, TMX is not at full capacity, you’ve got BC and FN who are going to block it.

      If you were to start tomorrow it would take you ten years to build it.

      I guess he is resigning to keep some of his cred but Carney isn’t really doing much other than saying ’sure we are OK with pipelines‘ because he has been a bank governor for twice G7 countries so he knows that they will never get built; especially as nuclear and renewables are on the rise.

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