I’m kinda not expecting this to stick in the way that the Trump “grab em by the pussy” thing didn’t. Like he’s clearly this person so who’s surprised/changing their mind on it? But I suppose it can’t hurt to put the screws in a bit more.
ForwardReflection980 on
Enoch Powell was right, and he probably understated it.
thehighyellowmoon on
Man with written reports from his teacher confirming racist views at school (repeatedly making targetted anti semitic comments towards a Jewish classmate is racist, it’s not banter, and the victim might reasonably hold a good memory of it even if it was 50 years ago) goes on to make political career of saying things that appeal to racists and now is realistically close to achieving ambition to become Prime Minister, and refuses to deny being racist when called out for it. I miss the days when you could ostracise racist dickheads for being racist dickheads, or at least expect aspiring world statesmen to be held accountable.
bigarsebiscuit on
>[…] large numbers of people with legal status in the UK would need to have their right to stay revoked and should “go home”.
>“There are also a large number of people in this country who came here legally, but in effect shouldn’t have been able to do so. It’s not the fault of the individuals who came here, they just shouldn’t have been able to do so.
>“They will also need to go home. What that will leave is a mostly but not entirely culturally coherent group of people.”
Is it Tommy Robinson? Is it Enoch Powell? Well, surely it’s Nigel Farage!
It’s actually Katie Lam, a ‚rising star‘ in the Conservative Party. Britain’s right has shifted and shifted to ever more right-wing and racist rhetoric, and it’s only a matter of time before that translates into actual policies. Our current political environment isn’t one in which you can take down a politician on the basis of divisive and inflammatory things they’ve said. It’s too mainstream now, and you know that because even that charisma and principle vacuum Keir Starmer has been experimenting with it.
Current_Case7806 on
He’s toast now. the attack dogs are out. You know there’s a room at several newspapers frantically phoning around to get the receipts. for someone who has been given the easiest of rides by the media (led by the BBC platforming him) as he was a convenient tool to get what they wanted from the main parties, I can’t wait to see this unravel.
Willywonka5725 on
I’m more surprised that *ANYONE* is even remotely surprised tbh.
Major_Bad_thoughts on
So basically reform up +1 is what the papers have decided
Acrobatic_Yogurt_327 on
Is anyone really surprised Farage may have said some racist stuff?
JoeBagadonut on
The issue Farage is facing is that he’s always presented himself as a political outsider. He wants people to think he’s the jolly bloke who just wants a pint at the pub and a quick fag every so often.
However, he’s now an MP and is considered to be a legitimate contender for Prime Minister. Controversies which would previously be washed out of the news cycle won’t go away as easily and he’ll be under more scrutiny.
His current strategy of refusing to admit guilt for anything and deflect deflect deflect won’t cut the mustard any more. He could have just stood up and admitted “I said some regrettable things when I was younger, I apologise for that and can ensure that they don’t reflect my current beliefs” and this controversy would have probably gone away by now.
Instead, every deflection is an admission. Continued refusal to address the issue directly gives the press more incentive to keep digging. None of what’s coming out should be of any surprise to anyone paying attention but it’s still damaging to his credibility.
SojournerInThisVale on
What do the media think this will achieve. Powell was immensely popular among the general public.
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I’m kinda not expecting this to stick in the way that the Trump “grab em by the pussy” thing didn’t. Like he’s clearly this person so who’s surprised/changing their mind on it? But I suppose it can’t hurt to put the screws in a bit more.
Enoch Powell was right, and he probably understated it.
Man with written reports from his teacher confirming racist views at school (repeatedly making targetted anti semitic comments towards a Jewish classmate is racist, it’s not banter, and the victim might reasonably hold a good memory of it even if it was 50 years ago) goes on to make political career of saying things that appeal to racists and now is realistically close to achieving ambition to become Prime Minister, and refuses to deny being racist when called out for it. I miss the days when you could ostracise racist dickheads for being racist dickheads, or at least expect aspiring world statesmen to be held accountable.
>[…] large numbers of people with legal status in the UK would need to have their right to stay revoked and should “go home”.
>“There are also a large number of people in this country who came here legally, but in effect shouldn’t have been able to do so. It’s not the fault of the individuals who came here, they just shouldn’t have been able to do so.
>“They will also need to go home. What that will leave is a mostly but not entirely culturally coherent group of people.”
Is it Tommy Robinson? Is it Enoch Powell? Well, surely it’s Nigel Farage!
It’s actually Katie Lam, a ‚rising star‘ in the Conservative Party. Britain’s right has shifted and shifted to ever more right-wing and racist rhetoric, and it’s only a matter of time before that translates into actual policies. Our current political environment isn’t one in which you can take down a politician on the basis of divisive and inflammatory things they’ve said. It’s too mainstream now, and you know that because even that charisma and principle vacuum Keir Starmer has been experimenting with it.
He’s toast now. the attack dogs are out. You know there’s a room at several newspapers frantically phoning around to get the receipts. for someone who has been given the easiest of rides by the media (led by the BBC platforming him) as he was a convenient tool to get what they wanted from the main parties, I can’t wait to see this unravel.
I’m more surprised that *ANYONE* is even remotely surprised tbh.
So basically reform up +1 is what the papers have decided
Is anyone really surprised Farage may have said some racist stuff?
The issue Farage is facing is that he’s always presented himself as a political outsider. He wants people to think he’s the jolly bloke who just wants a pint at the pub and a quick fag every so often.
However, he’s now an MP and is considered to be a legitimate contender for Prime Minister. Controversies which would previously be washed out of the news cycle won’t go away as easily and he’ll be under more scrutiny.
His current strategy of refusing to admit guilt for anything and deflect deflect deflect won’t cut the mustard any more. He could have just stood up and admitted “I said some regrettable things when I was younger, I apologise for that and can ensure that they don’t reflect my current beliefs” and this controversy would have probably gone away by now.
Instead, every deflection is an admission. Continued refusal to address the issue directly gives the press more incentive to keep digging. None of what’s coming out should be of any surprise to anyone paying attention but it’s still damaging to his credibility.
What do the media think this will achieve. Powell was immensely popular among the general public.