Why not being back reliant robins. Or make benefit claimants wear a bell round their necks
kbm79 on
Its no different that a company car – pick one of 3 or 4 car chosen by employer. Keeps it simple.
I have no issue with people on mobility chosing whatever car they want, but its an easy target for people who want to attack the Welfare system.
It used to be people on benefits v’s widescreen TVs back in the early 2000’s.
SadSeiko on
The scheme is to get people a car, not help them buy a nicer car than they can afford. Considering how benefits around children are means tested it’s a bit wild that you can buy a luxury car you can’t afford because of government help
They’re also working with manufacturers in Britain to support British built cars now. If my taxes are buying cars they can at least be locally made
cozywit on
How about only British made cars as well.
Why are we pouring British tax money into other countries?
Edit: evidently by the replies, no one here understands supply and demand.
I_am_legend-ary on
What’s wrong with people being able to pay more to upgrade their car through the mobility scheme?
ultraboomkin on
PIP should be means tested. If you’re earning a comfortable living there’s no reason you should get free money just because you have a disability.
Worried-Penalty8744 on
Terrible idea because the Nissan Juke is one of the few British built cars out there at the moment. I don’t want to see _more_ Jukes on the road thank you very much
axelzr on
I think it’s a positive step, tax payers shouldn’t be contributing to ‘luxury’ cars for this scheme, just functional cars. Give them Vauxhalls or similar brand of more budget vehicle. I have heard there is quite a lot of abuse of the system, although think it’s a good thing for those who genuinely need something to get around and can’t afford.
GabberZZ on
They need to reign in who is eligible too. My auntie had polio as a kid which gave her a very slight limp but she qualified.
They bought a land Rover discovery with it so they could tow their mahoosive caravan to their caravan club swingers events.
buggerthatforagame on
We’re do you think all thouse nice 3 year old 1 owner with full service history cars are going to come from in 3 years time..carnt wait for the penny to drop whe you realise the cost of second hand cars are going to go even higher
HerrFerret on
I look forward to the wailing from all the luxury car owners who discover they have to return their car in a few years time, to discover a sensible downgrade awaits them.
It was always a ridiculous system. They absolutely should have been offered a range of cars, with the lowest maintenance and highest resale value, in a selection of sizes to fit personal situations.
Personally I would make sure they were all the same colour too. Bright blue wrap. Wouldn’t need the blue badge either, when the car is a massive blue badge.
If you need a car for mobility, absolutely great. Here is your bright blue Toyota Corolla/SUV with modifications. Enjoy.
damadmetz on
Good. I work and pay a lot of taxes. I can’t afford one of these cars.
Tasty_Event_7721 on
The amount of people on here ranting about British made cars who can’t even Google it. British made cars include the vauxhall astra, Toyota Corolla and nissan qashqai
Silent_Archer_6121 on
Give them all the little blue plastic cars u used to see parked rnd the football pitches back in the 70s:80s see how much pple really need them🤣
The problem I see with this is people don’t actually know how much cars cost now.
They may have removed luxury marquees, but have they removed expensive vehicles?
Luxury brands don’t exclusively make expensive cars now
EstablishmentOdd9701 on
Even if Motability cars were scrapped, the claimant still gets their allowance, so as another poster said, there is no net benefit there to the government…
Once again, the media makes us easily led and divisive. Yes, it may be cheaper overall as it includes insurance and service, but that’s how the scheme has been negotiated/setup, that’s not a fault of the claimants, it just shows that were being shafted by the big corporates when it comes for paying for our own insurance – that’s where the anger should be directed.
The us vs them attitude is such a dangerous rhetoric and distracts from the actual issues going on in our country.
Perhaps a selection of upgraded/luxury cars is not the most ideal, but again, as another poster has said.. the motability leases actually prop up the second hand market and makes it cheaper for people to buy cars.. are people now willfully wishing for a hike in price for second hand cars..? It’s rather backward.
Titus_Oates on
Standard mobility is £29.20/week; enhanced is £77.05/week. You hand over the full allowance in return for a leased vehicle, with optional upfront payments up to ~£8k for higher-spec models. Leases last 3 years. Cars with no upfront cost are usually small city cars.
Disabled people are not the reason why you have less money. It is a headline grabber so the gov can appear to be tough on benefit scroungers. The scroungers will still scrounge and the everyday disabled people who generally play by the rules and don’t want to make a fuss, suffer.
The luxury brand option are BMW 1 series, MB A Class and Audi A1. There’s a couple small family car options a couple of small cross-overs. The trim levels poor and don’t come with options.
Nobody gets a tricked out car on Motability. The scheme isn’t just for pip, it also serves veterans. It’s there to help people be independent and not be otherwise disadvantaged because they’re disabled.
ArtNo6305 on
This is going to have some unintended effects. Motability is a massive fleet – they actually get incredible deals for the vehicles that are on the fleet.
Now you’re funnelling all that demand into a much smaller pool of vehicles – so manufacturers can just charge more for the ‚basic‘ cars. Secondly, I reckon the used car market prices are about to shoot up – they make up a big part of the used car market.
Rem1988 on
The options should not have been there from the start
Wonderful-Lab2243 on
You can have the most expensive let’s say “Vauxhall” cost the same as a smaller “luxury car” so the Vat would be similar!
Also if you’re in a wheelchair you can buy a new car with no VAT also.
GhostRiders on
The amount of hate and envy towards disabled people being shown in this thread is utterly disgusting.
It’s reading the comment section of the Daily Mail FFS..
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Why not being back reliant robins. Or make benefit claimants wear a bell round their necks
Its no different that a company car – pick one of 3 or 4 car chosen by employer. Keeps it simple.
I have no issue with people on mobility chosing whatever car they want, but its an easy target for people who want to attack the Welfare system.
It used to be people on benefits v’s widescreen TVs back in the early 2000’s.
The scheme is to get people a car, not help them buy a nicer car than they can afford. Considering how benefits around children are means tested it’s a bit wild that you can buy a luxury car you can’t afford because of government help
They’re also working with manufacturers in Britain to support British built cars now. If my taxes are buying cars they can at least be locally made
How about only British made cars as well.
Why are we pouring British tax money into other countries?
Edit: evidently by the replies, no one here understands supply and demand.
What’s wrong with people being able to pay more to upgrade their car through the mobility scheme?
PIP should be means tested. If you’re earning a comfortable living there’s no reason you should get free money just because you have a disability.
Terrible idea because the Nissan Juke is one of the few British built cars out there at the moment. I don’t want to see _more_ Jukes on the road thank you very much
I think it’s a positive step, tax payers shouldn’t be contributing to ‘luxury’ cars for this scheme, just functional cars. Give them Vauxhalls or similar brand of more budget vehicle. I have heard there is quite a lot of abuse of the system, although think it’s a good thing for those who genuinely need something to get around and can’t afford.
They need to reign in who is eligible too. My auntie had polio as a kid which gave her a very slight limp but she qualified.
They bought a land Rover discovery with it so they could tow their mahoosive caravan to their caravan club swingers events.
We’re do you think all thouse nice 3 year old 1 owner with full service history cars are going to come from in 3 years time..carnt wait for the penny to drop whe you realise the cost of second hand cars are going to go even higher
I look forward to the wailing from all the luxury car owners who discover they have to return their car in a few years time, to discover a sensible downgrade awaits them.
It was always a ridiculous system. They absolutely should have been offered a range of cars, with the lowest maintenance and highest resale value, in a selection of sizes to fit personal situations.
Personally I would make sure they were all the same colour too. Bright blue wrap. Wouldn’t need the blue badge either, when the car is a massive blue badge.
If you need a car for mobility, absolutely great. Here is your bright blue Toyota Corolla/SUV with modifications. Enjoy.
Good. I work and pay a lot of taxes. I can’t afford one of these cars.
The amount of people on here ranting about British made cars who can’t even Google it. British made cars include the vauxhall astra, Toyota Corolla and nissan qashqai
Give them all the little blue plastic cars u used to see parked rnd the football pitches back in the 70s:80s see how much pple really need them🤣
Bring back the [invacar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invacar) and all the problems will be solved /s
The problem I see with this is people don’t actually know how much cars cost now.
They may have removed luxury marquees, but have they removed expensive vehicles?
Luxury brands don’t exclusively make expensive cars now
Even if Motability cars were scrapped, the claimant still gets their allowance, so as another poster said, there is no net benefit there to the government…
Once again, the media makes us easily led and divisive. Yes, it may be cheaper overall as it includes insurance and service, but that’s how the scheme has been negotiated/setup, that’s not a fault of the claimants, it just shows that were being shafted by the big corporates when it comes for paying for our own insurance – that’s where the anger should be directed.
The us vs them attitude is such a dangerous rhetoric and distracts from the actual issues going on in our country.
Perhaps a selection of upgraded/luxury cars is not the most ideal, but again, as another poster has said.. the motability leases actually prop up the second hand market and makes it cheaper for people to buy cars.. are people now willfully wishing for a hike in price for second hand cars..? It’s rather backward.
Standard mobility is £29.20/week; enhanced is £77.05/week. You hand over the full allowance in return for a leased vehicle, with optional upfront payments up to ~£8k for higher-spec models. Leases last 3 years. Cars with no upfront cost are usually small city cars.
Disabled people are not the reason why you have less money. It is a headline grabber so the gov can appear to be tough on benefit scroungers. The scroungers will still scrounge and the everyday disabled people who generally play by the rules and don’t want to make a fuss, suffer.
The luxury brand option are BMW 1 series, MB A Class and Audi A1. There’s a couple small family car options a couple of small cross-overs. The trim levels poor and don’t come with options.
Nobody gets a tricked out car on Motability. The scheme isn’t just for pip, it also serves veterans. It’s there to help people be independent and not be otherwise disadvantaged because they’re disabled.
This is going to have some unintended effects. Motability is a massive fleet – they actually get incredible deals for the vehicles that are on the fleet.
Now you’re funnelling all that demand into a much smaller pool of vehicles – so manufacturers can just charge more for the ‚basic‘ cars. Secondly, I reckon the used car market prices are about to shoot up – they make up a big part of the used car market.
The options should not have been there from the start
You can have the most expensive let’s say “Vauxhall” cost the same as a smaller “luxury car” so the Vat would be similar!
Also if you’re in a wheelchair you can buy a new car with no VAT also.
The amount of hate and envy towards disabled people being shown in this thread is utterly disgusting.
It’s reading the comment section of the Daily Mail FFS..