Ukraine and Europe should just ignore the US capitulation plan. There is no need to negotiate or make counter offers. The war continues until Ukraine wins. The US is an irrelevant outsider in this war, even if unlike other countries, it is arrogant enough to act as if it has a voice.
NocturneFogg on
Ghostwriters never get any credit.
DantheDutchGuy on
What a shitshow….
TrueRignak on
Meaning that the US administration working language isn’t actually english but russian ?
Busy_Credit1483 on
Its very simple. This plan is the best way for short term success and praise for the Donald. It might be bad in future but they dont look ahead very far it seems
Jubjars on
Okay.
Still terrible and completely aligns with Russia’s wants.
TheRealMylo on
That’s not a thing do be proud of rubio…just saying.
totallyclips on
Me thinks he doth protest a little too much
Squeaky_Ben on
it doesn’t matter if america or russia wrote this plan.
What matters, is that it is a terrible plan that favors russia.
BringBackApollo2023 on
TIL: Copy & paste = authorship.
Here I thought you had to cite, but college was a long time ago.
GrannyFlash7373 on
YEAH……..And I’m Santa Claus.
Basic-Still-7441 on
That would be even worse.
heitiki on
Sure.
Few_Knowledge_2223 on
ok Russians the best I can do is complete surrender. do you guys think that could work?
HiddenWulf on
Rubio I always thought was one of the few competent in the administration, yes the bar is that low. For him to say that must be really embarrassing.
It wasn’t long ago that Republicans like him rightfully criticised Obama for being too soft on Russia.
Hairy_Muff305 on
That plan is such dog shit that I think I preferred the explanation that it was just a Russian wish list. If it was actually written by Trumps people as a serious proposition then they are all delulu.
harryx67 on
The US authored it? Ok, it confirms the absolute diplomatic incapability of this pro-russian administration.
I guess he’s trying to avoid the White House looking like the Kremln’s lackeys, not realizing it’s too late for that…
5555555555558653 on
He said the exact opposite yesterday
butwhywedothis on
Putin paid off the debts of the pedo king of America. Now it’s pedo king’s turn to repay, so he will just sign whatever document Putin tells him to.
BiffChildFromBangor on
A member of Trump’s administration turns out to be a flip flopping liar. Colour me surprised.
toorigged2fail on
I don’t know what the full version of the story is, but I know this isn’t it.
phaedrus897 on
But it was Putin’s handwriting…
Responsible-Room-645 on
So it was the United States stupid idea? Ok got it
Silentarius_Atticus on
Who is in doubt now that Trump & Co. are ruzzian assets?
Cariboo_Red on
Somehow I don’t think that’s something I would want to admit to.
goprinterm on
He has lied his whole political career
Cathal1954 on
Well, in that case, he should be hanging his head in shame and asking forgiveness from Zelensky.
djquu on
Ok, they are working for the Russians then. Better or even worse?
momentimori on
Technically true in the same way as Bill Clinton’s ‚I did not have sexual relations with that woman‘
bakeacake45 on
And if you believe Putin did not dictate the content then you must also believe:
There is NO inflation
Epstein never trafficked kids with his buddy Donald
The DOJ is bursting with integrity
ICE is deporting only illegal immigrants with criminal records
Doge was a resounding success and didn’t steal every byte of taxpayers data
2016lund on
I was just reading that one of the issues is the multiple positions and contradictory statements from the US government. There appears to be multiple factions and positions on the peace plan based on a combination of real strategic thinking (a rarity), where to maneuver for the ’28 presidential elections, and of course the trump grift. As usual Rubio is bouncing between them. Foreign governments feel they are negotiating with two governments within the US as they are so incredibly incompetent and mostly looking out for their own self interests. A shame that brave Ukrainians have to die because of their greed and hubris.
mariuszmie on
He wrote it down in Cyrillic in Moscow sitting besides Putin
Significant_Arm4246 on
Rubio on Russia in 2015, two different speeches:
>As soon as I take office, I will move quickly to increase pressure on Moscow. Under my administration, there will be no pleadings for meetings with Vladimir Putin. He will be treated for what he is – a gangster and a thug.
>
Let’s dispel once and for all with this fiction that Marco Rubio doesn’t know what he’s doing. He knows exactly what he’s doing.
Useless_or_inept on
Rubio was credible, in the past. But maybe not now.
But a more important question is – how can Europe do better?
sjeve108 on
There is bound to be a 10% edit from the Russian original which then excludes plagiarism
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Didn’t he say the opposite yesterday?
Ukraine and Europe should just ignore the US capitulation plan. There is no need to negotiate or make counter offers. The war continues until Ukraine wins. The US is an irrelevant outsider in this war, even if unlike other countries, it is arrogant enough to act as if it has a voice.
Ghostwriters never get any credit.
What a shitshow….
Meaning that the US administration working language isn’t actually english but russian ?
Its very simple. This plan is the best way for short term success and praise for the Donald. It might be bad in future but they dont look ahead very far it seems
Okay.
Still terrible and completely aligns with Russia’s wants.
That’s not a thing do be proud of rubio…just saying.
Me thinks he doth protest a little too much
it doesn’t matter if america or russia wrote this plan.
What matters, is that it is a terrible plan that favors russia.
TIL: Copy & paste = authorship.
Here I thought you had to cite, but college was a long time ago.
YEAH……..And I’m Santa Claus.
That would be even worse.
Sure.
ok Russians the best I can do is complete surrender. do you guys think that could work?
Rubio I always thought was one of the few competent in the administration, yes the bar is that low. For him to say that must be really embarrassing.
It wasn’t long ago that Republicans like him rightfully criticised Obama for being too soft on Russia.
That plan is such dog shit that I think I preferred the explanation that it was just a Russian wish list. If it was actually written by Trumps people as a serious proposition then they are all delulu.
The US authored it? Ok, it confirms the absolute diplomatic incapability of this pro-russian administration.
This will back fire at some point.
[Europe is standing](https://www.reddit.com/r/charts/s/4hLWzBdShg). The USA is just confirming it‘s a russian vasal state.
I guess he’s trying to avoid the White House looking like the Kremln’s lackeys, not realizing it’s too late for that…
He said the exact opposite yesterday
Putin paid off the debts of the pedo king of America. Now it’s pedo king’s turn to repay, so he will just sign whatever document Putin tells him to.
A member of Trump’s administration turns out to be a flip flopping liar. Colour me surprised.
I don’t know what the full version of the story is, but I know this isn’t it.
But it was Putin’s handwriting…
So it was the United States stupid idea? Ok got it
Who is in doubt now that Trump & Co. are ruzzian assets?
Somehow I don’t think that’s something I would want to admit to.
He has lied his whole political career
Well, in that case, he should be hanging his head in shame and asking forgiveness from Zelensky.
Ok, they are working for the Russians then. Better or even worse?
Technically true in the same way as Bill Clinton’s ‚I did not have sexual relations with that woman‘
And if you believe Putin did not dictate the content then you must also believe:
There is NO inflation
Epstein never trafficked kids with his buddy Donald
The DOJ is bursting with integrity
ICE is deporting only illegal immigrants with criminal records
Doge was a resounding success and didn’t steal every byte of taxpayers data
I was just reading that one of the issues is the multiple positions and contradictory statements from the US government. There appears to be multiple factions and positions on the peace plan based on a combination of real strategic thinking (a rarity), where to maneuver for the ’28 presidential elections, and of course the trump grift. As usual Rubio is bouncing between them. Foreign governments feel they are negotiating with two governments within the US as they are so incredibly incompetent and mostly looking out for their own self interests. A shame that brave Ukrainians have to die because of their greed and hubris.
He wrote it down in Cyrillic in Moscow sitting besides Putin
Rubio on Russia in 2015, two different speeches:
>As soon as I take office, I will move quickly to increase pressure on Moscow. Under my administration, there will be no pleadings for meetings with Vladimir Putin. He will be treated for what he is – a gangster and a thug.
>
Let’s dispel once and for all with this fiction that Marco Rubio doesn’t know what he’s doing. He knows exactly what he’s doing.
Rubio was credible, in the past. But maybe not now.
But a more important question is – how can Europe do better?
There is bound to be a 10% edit from the Russian original which then excludes plagiarism