As a Central Asian, I wish we had a union like the EU or a Federation like the US. We are too small and insignificant when divided, but would become a major regional power if we did unite. Same religion, same culture, similar languages.
fIreballchamp on
Thes countries mostly hate each other, many of the leaders are dictators and there really isnt any benefit as they are competing to sell resources.
Crazy_Kraut on
They need a Timur as leader … would be funny
-Kuro-Neko_ on
They’re doing it.
blindclock61862 on
Azerbaijan in central asia? Is this satire?
kalsoy on
How come Uzbekistan has 38 million people and it’s neighbours so few? I know Kazachstan is mostly steppe and Turkmenistan desert, but Uzbekistan is also partly desert. Is the land so much more fertile, or is it the result of Soviet policies?
If I remember correctly, they already established a joint military with some of the members. Goal is Turan. An EU-like union of all Turkic states. But I don’t think that will happen soon. Maybe never.
arakan974 on
Nyyazow wanted it (or actually even closer to a real federation) during the independence process, but Nazarbayev prevented such a federation because he thought it would cause a war with the russian colonial settlers of his country
Alphabeticallysuper on
No russia and im cool with it
schneeleopard8 on
While it is a great idea in theory, in it’s current form it would just be a club of authoritarians helping each other to stay in power and circumvent sanctions, like the „Eurasian Union“ led by Russia.
MayBeMarmelade on
Isn’t there something like this already just with Russia in it?
That’s how any initiative to do a Central Asian union like this without Russia would play out — Russia would either invite itself to the club or else undermine it in covert and overt ways. If you’ve noticed, Russia isn’t exactly a fan of the E.U.
To withstand the inevitable Russian pressure, Central Asia would have to develop a taste for democracy and Western-style liberalism that it so far hasn’t shown.
Derfflingerr on
what do you mean? they were literally part of a union 30 years ago
waraboot on
TIL Turkey has roughly the same population and a higher GDP then all of Central Asia (Azerbaijan is not in Central Asia and thus excluded).
zxphn8 on
Russia could join, and they could form a Union… a Union of Siberian Republics…
AbeFromanEast on
Russia’s government will never allow this to happen.
Why? Russia’s government thinks their security depends on ***all*** of their neighbors being unorganized basket-cases.
PandaReturns on
TIL Kazakhstan is not the most populous country in Central Asia
Kejo2023 on
Even our Turkic brethren won’t let us Turks join 😭🤣
lanealmeida on
But there is no access to the sea
TheTyper1944 on
Fact:All turkic Central asian countries were united under turkestan [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkestan_Autonomy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkestan_Autonomy) before soviets disbanded the republic in 1936 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkestan_Autonomous_Soviet_Socialist_Republic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkestan_Autonomous_Soviet_Socialist_Republic) and the engaged in “’national delimination“ where they artificially molded identities of people where they divided chagtai into two uzbek and uyghur categories and divided kazakistan and krygzestan
Kezolt on
Why is baku the most known place why does that have a f1 grand prix and none of the others are anywhere close to
YouKnow008 on
Why don’t moders ban this bot? It is „approved bot“?
megacooler on
Azerbaijan has far more economic ties to Turkey/Russia than to the Central Asia;
Turkmenistan is far too isolated;
Kazakhstan is trying to reach western capital, so it would most likely no unite with Russian reliant Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan;
Tajikistan is in such awful economic state that any sort of EU like union would immediately require big investments from other states in the region.
Generally, this sounds cool, but it would require for the majority of countries to have ~same economic bases and political goals. >!Azerbaijan seems odd choice to be included here!<
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Russian invasion would happen.
Stanistan it is then
As a Central Asian, I wish we had a union like the EU or a Federation like the US. We are too small and insignificant when divided, but would become a major regional power if we did unite. Same religion, same culture, similar languages.
Thes countries mostly hate each other, many of the leaders are dictators and there really isnt any benefit as they are competing to sell resources.
They need a Timur as leader … would be funny
They’re doing it.
Azerbaijan in central asia? Is this satire?
How come Uzbekistan has 38 million people and it’s neighbours so few? I know Kazachstan is mostly steppe and Turkmenistan desert, but Uzbekistan is also partly desert. Is the land so much more fertile, or is it the result of Soviet policies?
Kazakhstaaaaaan greatest country in the world.
All other countries are run by little girls.
They’re trying that already (including Turkey):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_Turkic_States
If I remember correctly, they already established a joint military with some of the members. Goal is Turan. An EU-like union of all Turkic states. But I don’t think that will happen soon. Maybe never.
Nyyazow wanted it (or actually even closer to a real federation) during the independence process, but Nazarbayev prevented such a federation because he thought it would cause a war with the russian colonial settlers of his country
No russia and im cool with it
While it is a great idea in theory, in it’s current form it would just be a club of authoritarians helping each other to stay in power and circumvent sanctions, like the „Eurasian Union“ led by Russia.
Isn’t there something like this already just with Russia in it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Economic_Union
That’s how any initiative to do a Central Asian union like this without Russia would play out — Russia would either invite itself to the club or else undermine it in covert and overt ways. If you’ve noticed, Russia isn’t exactly a fan of the E.U.
To withstand the inevitable Russian pressure, Central Asia would have to develop a taste for democracy and Western-style liberalism that it so far hasn’t shown.
what do you mean? they were literally part of a union 30 years ago
TIL Turkey has roughly the same population and a higher GDP then all of Central Asia (Azerbaijan is not in Central Asia and thus excluded).
Russia could join, and they could form a Union… a Union of Siberian Republics…
Russia’s government will never allow this to happen.
Why? Russia’s government thinks their security depends on ***all*** of their neighbors being unorganized basket-cases.
TIL Kazakhstan is not the most populous country in Central Asia
Even our Turkic brethren won’t let us Turks join 😭🤣
But there is no access to the sea
Fact:All turkic Central asian countries were united under turkestan [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkestan_Autonomy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkestan_Autonomy) before soviets disbanded the republic in 1936 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkestan_Autonomous_Soviet_Socialist_Republic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkestan_Autonomous_Soviet_Socialist_Republic) and the engaged in “’national delimination“ where they artificially molded identities of people where they divided chagtai into two uzbek and uyghur categories and divided kazakistan and krygzestan
Why is baku the most known place why does that have a f1 grand prix and none of the others are anywhere close to
Why don’t moders ban this bot? It is „approved bot“?
Azerbaijan has far more economic ties to Turkey/Russia than to the Central Asia;
Turkmenistan is far too isolated;
Kazakhstan is trying to reach western capital, so it would most likely no unite with Russian reliant Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan;
Tajikistan is in such awful economic state that any sort of EU like union would immediately require big investments from other states in the region.
Generally, this sounds cool, but it would require for the majority of countries to have ~same economic bases and political goals. >!Azerbaijan seems odd choice to be included here!<