„Gen Z liebt KI-Slop“ – Ehemaliger Square Enix-Manager behauptet: „Ein Großteil der KI-Stimmung wird eher von Emotionen als von Logik bestimmt“

    https://www.ign.com/articles/gen-z-loves-ai-slop-former-square-enix-exec-claims-a-lot-of-ai-sentiment-is-driven-by-emotion-rather-than-logic

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    1. Future-Turtle on

      „ACKSHUALLY, you guys need to listen to FACTS and LOGIC and like our slop.“

      We’re reaching levels of out of touch Executive that were assumed to be only theoretical.

    2. Just_the_nicest_guy on

      >’A Lot of AI Sentiment Is Driven by Emotion Rather Than Logic‘

      When you think you’re talking about other people but you’re actually talking about yourself.

    3. Mental_E_Illman on

      >’A Lot of AI Sentiment Is Driven by Emotion Rather Than Logic‘

      That doesn’t delegitimize the sentiment because it’s a consumer sentiment. Consumer sentiment by nature is driven by emotion rather than logic. He’s not actually saying anything here if you think about it.

    4. i mean, i think he has a point. if people pay for stuff when it has slop, then that’s evidence that that’s the way it’s going to go. people are very allergic to it now, in the creative space, and i really hope it doesn’t happen any time soon, but if someone could throw on netflix and watch a new episode of the office or something, i’m pretty sure sentiment would shift. it’s just a very quick ramp towards cheaper content.

    5. VagueSomething on

      Boomers blamed Millennials for killing diamond sales because Boomers destroyed the economy. Now Gen X claim Gen Z loves the slop they’re force feeding the Zoomers and that resistance isn’t logical.

      The decline will continue until morale improves.

    6. >Jacob Navok, a former Square Enix director, evidenced his claim by reminding us that the biggest game of the year, Steal a Brainrot, „had 30m concurrents or approximately 80x the Arc Raiders concurrents, and is named after/based on AI slop characters.“

      I have never heard of this game.

      >“I should add that in-game art and voices are merely the tip of the spear. Many studios I know are using AI generation in the concept phase, and many more are using Claude for code,“ he added. „It will be hard to find a non-indie title that isn’t using Claude for code, and ignoring Claude’s AI use because it’s code while focusing purely on art shows that a lot of AI sentiment is being driven by emotion rather than logic.“

      AI coding certainly has its issues, but I don’t hear as may people arguing against it as AI art. A lot of anti-AI-art sentient comes from it stealing the work of talented people, which coders basically do anyway, speaking from experience.

    7. Ironically logic and emotion are both things lacking in anything generative AI creates.

    8. Emotions like “being pissed off that the first thing companies tried to use AI to do was kill high-skill, low pay creative jobs that people were willing to make significant sacrifices elsewhere in their lives to do anyway.”

    9. I have realized with anything ai that I don’t retain any recollections of it. Like I saw two short films made by respectable directors but entirely with ai, and I could not for the life of me tell you what they were about. Like, there was a script and a solid idea and concept behind them, and I heard the directors talk at a q&a afterwards, but I had the same experience as if I’d just been watching one of those colorblindness tests for 10 minutes.

      I have a really long retention span when it comes to remembering music I haven’t heard before, but if I listen to something made with ai I can’t even remember what genre it was two minutes later.

    10. CanadianPropagandist on

      I know when I want to enjoy myself in my leisure time playing a video game I eschew weak characteristics like emotion and fun, replacing them with the cold hard logic of business math.

      Do all modern business bean counters live such empty lives?

    11. Fairwhetherfriend on

      Wow, crazy how you’re just being emotional when you happen to have an opinion that disagrees with his.

    12. ReasonableRandolph on

      In the article they make it seem like users don’t like knowing there’s AI being used to make video games. But it’s more like they don’t enjoy being able to realize certain features or characters are being done by AI. This is the real disconnect and why they say „they love AI slop“ because we would unknowingly consume AI video games, AI art, AI shows, etc as long as we can’t recognize it. Our generation likes pleasure and convenience. But we are inherently anti-AI because we grew up without the same version of the „american dream“ that our parents did. Most of us can unconsciously say that AI isn’t good because we don’t feel better from all the advances in tech like streaming, social media, algorithms, and most of the online world. Even those of us who can’t recognize that fact can still feel the effects subconsciously. We know that AI will not be used to help us, but instead replace us and make us poorer.

      But like I said, as someone who is guilty, we like convenience and pleasure. So instead of learning the extent of why these tech advances have left us empty, and why we don’t want to see the rise of AI, we just say that we don’t like AI slop. We have no way of voicing the fears of the rise of AI. A majority of us can’t voice the fact that social media has made us more depressed or anxious. That we don’t like being squeezed out of the job markets while simultaneously being marketed to at every waking second, to buy things we don’t need that will still leave us empty. There’s no alternative, or popular alternative, to the issues we face and feel very deeply. There’s no way for AI to exist to benefit us normal hard working young people, only the rich that make the tech. And there’s no government structure that we trust to regulate it because they care just as little about us as the big tech companies. We’d love versions of AI that make our lives more efficient, not just convenient. We’d love social media that keeps us in touch with our friends instead of showing us only influencers who exist to market to us, or government officials who exist to ignore real problems and just to divide us. We’re the post modern generation who is split by those completely enthralled by the enshtification of everything, those who suffer from it, and those who are maddened by others not being able to realize it.

      We have no way to voice our frustrations because we’re at the end of a cycle we did not start and we yearn for the American dream. We want to be rewarded for hard work and not sucked dry for every dollar we make. We want to have hope for the future, hope that someone will stand up for us when we don’t understand or don’t have the words to voice our concerns. We just want everything to get easier in a way that’s beneficial for us in the long term, not just short easy solutions that make us worse off and in more debt. And this AI revolution will leave us without jobs and will continue to punish those who seek human interaction even it when it takes just a little bit longer than using AI.

    13. Which generation is Gen Z again? Is that the people currently in their late 40s to 50s like my coworkers who are showing my AI videos nonstop at work? Or AI posts? Or AI any damn thing?

    14. Drive by emotion, not logic. So… Human? You’re describing humans. I bet this guy pretends to be a robot… a lot…

    15. Punished_Prigo on

      There’s a difference between people messing around with the tools and people wanting that trash in the products they buy.

    16. I keep hearing from those big publishers about what modern audiences like and then someone does the opposite and somehow that’s what sells.

      Remember when modern audiences didnt want turn based jrpgs? Remember when modern audiences didnt buy crpgs? Yeah..

    17. Artificial intelligence is bringing us down a dangerous path of job losses and creative bankruptcy, and unfortunately Square Enix are right. Call of Duty: Black Ops 7 recently launched and [despite being exposed for using Ghibli-esque AI slop as calling cards and emblems](https://www.pcgamer.com/games/call-of-duty/call-of-duty-black-ops-7-under-fire-for-using-what-sure-looks-like-ai-generated-studio-ghibli-style-calling-card-art/), is still [comfortably hitting five-figure concurrent player counts on Steam](https://steamcharts.com/app/1938090) (note that this is just Steam statistics, and does not include Xbox, PlayStation or Battlenet players), because your average CoD fan is a sheep that would pay up even if Activision decided to order their staff to literally start shitting in CD jewel cases and market ***that*** as the next year’s entry.

      At best this tech bubble is going to burst and take down big tech stocks with it, triggering a market crash far worse than 2008 and a recession that will wipe out trillions in wealth.

      The worst case scenario is that this technology improves to the point where it can effectively replace entire workforces. Self-driving taxis are already here, and once the technology is refined and made cheaper/safer, that’s it. Say goodbye to the entire logistics industry overnight when countless millions of delivery drivers lose their jobs. White collar office jobs are already under threat as many customer service, accounts administration and even entry-level programming jobs have been cut over the past few months due to AI adoption.

      Our economies are not prepared for the waves of mass unemployment that’s going to follow if AI really is the golden goose it’s cracked up to be. I’m not even going into the potential doomsday scenario of an AI model gaining superintelligence, going rogue and engineering a virus or army of robotic soldiers that wipes out humanity, because it’s likely that societal collapse will end us first.

    18. incunabula001 on

      I believe the issue with AI slop is that it’s _good enough_ for most people.

    19. Steal A Brainrot, a game I’ve literally never heard about, had 30 million concurrent players? And it came out this year?

    20. OpinionatedNoodles on

      >“For all the anti-AI sentiment we’re seeing in various articles, it appears consumers generally do not care,“

      This is demonstrably true. The anti-AI group are stuck in an echo chamber. One that will be unceremoniously shattered in a few years time when they are forced to reckon with the fact that most people never cared.

      However to say they „love AI slop“ isn’t completely true. A [2023 Forbes study](https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2023/09/09/generative-ai-generation-gap-70-of-gen-z-use-it-while-gen-x-boomers-dont-get-it/) revealed that 70% of GenZ uses GenAI but the things they use it for are largely work and studying.

      While a [2023 Fortune article](https://fortune.com/2023/07/19/gen-z-millennial-boomer-ai-worries-excitment-dan-frommer-report/) reveals that Gen Z and Millennials both agree that art generated with AI could be considered art.

      So to say Gen Z loves AI slop is misleading. Gen Z doesn’t absolutely reject AI in the way that the online discourse wants them to.

    21. Citing a children’s game in reference to what Gen Z likes is pretty moronic when gen z are almost all adults now. Not to mention it being a free game compared to 40$.

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