>Cartel de los Soles, a group the US alleges is led by Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro, will be designated a terrorist organisation, the US State Department has said.
>US Secretary of State Marco Rubio issued a statement on Sunday announcing that the US intends to consider the group a Foreign Terrorist Organisation (FTO) from 24 November.
>It means that Maduro will effectively be designated a terrorist as well, because the US alleges he heads the Cartel de los Soles, an accusation Maduro strongly denies.
>An FTO designation allows the US government to crackdown more aggressively on the group and its alleged associates, by making it illegal to knowingly offer them support.
>Washington claims it is led by the Venezuelan president and includes members of his inner circle, including from the military. The US hasn’t published evidence publicly of Maduro’s direct involvement in drug trafficking.
>But its characterisation of Maduro as a drug-trafficker is seen as a way for the US to possibly justify targeting him or those close to him personally as part of its military campaign against alleged drug-trafficking.
>US President Donald Trump has said he has „sort of“ made up his mind about what to do but has not announced his decision yet.
>He told reporters on Sunday night that he asked Rubio to discuss the situation with Congress.
>He added that „we may be having some discussions“ with Maduro and that „Venezuela wants to talk“, but did not provide further details on when talks might happen.
>There is not evidence to suggest fentanyl comes from Venezuela, as it is primarily produced in Mexico with chemicals largely sourced from Asia.
>The Venezuelan government acknowledges some cocaine trafficking takes place in the country, but there are much bigger trafficking hubs in the region. Cocaine is predominantly produced in Colombia, Peru and Bolivia.
ClassicHando on
But we allow El Chapos family in no problem. Fuck this guy
pythrowawayd3v on
I personally think this is sort of an ultimatum to Maduro, since right after the announcement (that happened yesterday), Trump said they may have discussions with Maduro, and that „Venezuela wants to talk“. According to NYT, and Trump himself some weeks ago, Maduro had offered Venezuela’s resources in exchanges for de-escalation, but the US had rejected. So it could be that the only thing they are open to negotiate is Maduro and his officials leaving and handing the control to the opposition. Don’t think it will be that easy, as the military hasn’t shown any loyalty to the opposition yet. But who knows what will happen. We might see it in a few days. Marco Rubio has been pushing for a regime change for years so this policy seems to be mostly because of his influence, and maybe Trump wants a „victory“ or wants a personal revenge for his failed policies in the first administration towards Venezuela.
humbleObserver on
We must liberate their oil fields!
RoleTall2025 on
smell that? its war on terror season…again
Terry_WT on
Cartel de los Soles is a snarky nickname Venezuelas press gives to the military. They use suns instead of stars to designate higher ranks therefore the cartel of the suns.
There is corruption within the Venezuelan military, to a greater extent than other countries like the US but cartel de los Soles is not a real organisation.
Crocs_n_Glocks on
Isn’t that just the snarky label for corrupt military officials in their country?
This is basically the equivalent of someone declaring America’s „E4 Mafia“ as an organized crime racket lol
ThePensiveE on
That’s one way to justify future war crimes.
Fit_Log_9677 on
TLDR: this is effectively declaring the Venezuelan government a terrorist organization.
4x420 on
Marco Rubio’s goal of regime change in Venezuela, they need someone friendly to the west to give them all the oil contracts to Exxon etc.
Independent-Slide-79 on
Welcome, they are the same club as the antifa west from germany now 💀
RayB1968 on
ICE should be designated a terrorist organization
One_Weird2371 on
Isn’t this a made up cartel by Trump administration?
latswipe on
who gets to be the custodian of the frozen accounts? lol
Joejoe12369 on
Wasn’t De La sol a 90s band
hoakpsp3 on
They could just rebrand with a new name 🤔
Excellent_Walrus9126 on
Special military operation 🎖️
maq0r on
I’ve been posting these on the threads of this situation because as a Venezuelan American the amount of misinformation about this is staggering:
I’m Venezuelan-American (and a liberal, not MAGA before you @ me).
It’s pressuring Maduro to accept last year’s elections. He lost to Edmundo/Maria Corina 70% to 30% and because he’s a narco terrorist him and his cronies went “nope” and used violence to suppress protests and keep a chokehold on the country.
Fellow Americans don’t understand that Maduro and his cronies are a mix of Narco Cartels + ISIS. They use violence to suppress ANY protest or riot, and when I mean violence I mean they shoot to kill hundreds and those wounded are sent to the biggest torture dungeon in our hemisphere (Helicoide) that makes Guantanamo look like Disneyland where they and their families are tortured.
American media calls it “regime change” when Edmundo has been democratically elected, American media makes it sound like we want American help to install another dictator and that’s not the case.
“But but Maria Corina sucked up to Trump!!!” Yes. The same way Zelensky also sucked up to Trump. We need American help and we all know we have to suck it up to the orange child.
“But there’ll be dead Venezuelans!! Turn Venezuela into Irak or Afghanistan!!!!” Today Maduro has been killing Venezuelans by the thousands AND 9 million of us have sought refugee all over the world in the biggest refugee crisis of the modern age. Bigger than Syria or Ukraine. Oh and Venezuela was the most stable democracy in Latin America in the XX century so no we are not Irak or Afghanistan. Look at Panama and Noriega for a better perspective.
“But we don’t want an American invasion!!” There won’t. You’re thinking of invasions of old. In this modern age Venezuelans want the USA to pull a Soleimani on the heads of the cartel with precision strikes. No American boots on the ground are needed.
“But but it’s all to steal your oil!!!” What oil? We are barely producing any and the little we do is sent to Cuba for free and to China to pay for weapons and surveillance of equipment. At least the Americans paid market price with hard currency. Currency we used to pay for infrastructure and the like.
“But Trump isn’t doing this out of the goodness of his heart!” Yeah we know. He wants a war to increase his popularity and to shut down the while Epstein and the economy fiasco. At least this’ll do some good.
Feel free to ask me any Qs, but please read my whole post. I keep getting questions that have already been answered w.r.t oil, why trump is doing it, why is this not like iraq or afghanistan, etc. If you have a new POV or Q bring it on, but please, just as GOPers and MAGATs have Biden/Obama derangement syndrome, please CHECK your Trump Derangement Syndrome as well.
onetwentytwo_1-8 on
The US is the top cartel. Buyer and supplier
Of people/arms/drugs.
bareboneschicken on
I’m surprised someone near Maduro hasn’t decided that he is bad for business and removed him.
ErgoMachina on
As a South American it’s hilarious to see Reddit defending the fucking Cartel de los Soles. Actually, the US is late to the party this time, as it was already designated as a terrorist organization by several Mercosur countries.
Seriously. I understand the rage that you have against the current US administration, but you are making a fool of yourselves.
Barnowl-hoot on
Not another war on terror that’s actually a war to help American and foreign oil companies turn a profit…no thanks!
Jbball9269 on
Reddit really going to die on the hill of defending Maduro huh? Of all the sides to pick that’s going to be the one?
c4upinhisbhole on
You’re a terrorist, and you’re a terrorist, and you? Yep, you guessed it, terrorist.
Again, deliberate reductive thinking by the US regime to justify violence. This time, state level. There are some real malevolent pieces of crap turning the gears inside the White House.
JBonez84 on
Wonder if this has anything to do with his private talks with Mexican cartel leaders. Hmm 🤔
hackingdreams on
Moniker is effectively useless, as his administration has already named the conceptual idea of being „antifascist“ as a terrorist organization.
Felon’s turned the White House into the world’s biggest laughing stock, and he doesn’t even know it.
SuckMyBandAids on
I love how the US precursors to terrorize other countries is to label certain groups in those countries as terrorist.
Lefty_22 on
So this Cartel is probably fine to classify that way, but what about the KKK, The Proud (gay) Boys, etc.?
GlobuleNamed on
It is like an Oprah’s show.
You are a terrorist.
You are a terrorist.
Everybody is a terrorist!
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>Cartel de los Soles, a group the US alleges is led by Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro, will be designated a terrorist organisation, the US State Department has said.
>US Secretary of State Marco Rubio issued a statement on Sunday announcing that the US intends to consider the group a Foreign Terrorist Organisation (FTO) from 24 November.
>It means that Maduro will effectively be designated a terrorist as well, because the US alleges he heads the Cartel de los Soles, an accusation Maduro strongly denies.
>An FTO designation allows the US government to crackdown more aggressively on the group and its alleged associates, by making it illegal to knowingly offer them support.
>Washington claims it is led by the Venezuelan president and includes members of his inner circle, including from the military. The US hasn’t published evidence publicly of Maduro’s direct involvement in drug trafficking.
>But its characterisation of Maduro as a drug-trafficker is seen as a way for the US to possibly justify targeting him or those close to him personally as part of its military campaign against alleged drug-trafficking.
>US President Donald Trump has said he has „sort of“ made up his mind about what to do but has not announced his decision yet.
>He told reporters on Sunday night that he asked Rubio to discuss the situation with Congress.
>He added that „we may be having some discussions“ with Maduro and that „Venezuela wants to talk“, but did not provide further details on when talks might happen.
>There is not evidence to suggest fentanyl comes from Venezuela, as it is primarily produced in Mexico with chemicals largely sourced from Asia.
>The Venezuelan government acknowledges some cocaine trafficking takes place in the country, but there are much bigger trafficking hubs in the region. Cocaine is predominantly produced in Colombia, Peru and Bolivia.
But we allow El Chapos family in no problem. Fuck this guy
I personally think this is sort of an ultimatum to Maduro, since right after the announcement (that happened yesterday), Trump said they may have discussions with Maduro, and that „Venezuela wants to talk“. According to NYT, and Trump himself some weeks ago, Maduro had offered Venezuela’s resources in exchanges for de-escalation, but the US had rejected. So it could be that the only thing they are open to negotiate is Maduro and his officials leaving and handing the control to the opposition. Don’t think it will be that easy, as the military hasn’t shown any loyalty to the opposition yet. But who knows what will happen. We might see it in a few days. Marco Rubio has been pushing for a regime change for years so this policy seems to be mostly because of his influence, and maybe Trump wants a „victory“ or wants a personal revenge for his failed policies in the first administration towards Venezuela.
We must liberate their oil fields!
smell that? its war on terror season…again
Cartel de los Soles is a snarky nickname Venezuelas press gives to the military. They use suns instead of stars to designate higher ranks therefore the cartel of the suns.
There is corruption within the Venezuelan military, to a greater extent than other countries like the US but cartel de los Soles is not a real organisation.
Isn’t that just the snarky label for corrupt military officials in their country?
This is basically the equivalent of someone declaring America’s „E4 Mafia“ as an organized crime racket lol
That’s one way to justify future war crimes.
TLDR: this is effectively declaring the Venezuelan government a terrorist organization.
Marco Rubio’s goal of regime change in Venezuela, they need someone friendly to the west to give them all the oil contracts to Exxon etc.
Welcome, they are the same club as the antifa west from germany now 💀
ICE should be designated a terrorist organization
Isn’t this a made up cartel by Trump administration?
who gets to be the custodian of the frozen accounts? lol
Wasn’t De La sol a 90s band
They could just rebrand with a new name 🤔
Special military operation 🎖️
I’ve been posting these on the threads of this situation because as a Venezuelan American the amount of misinformation about this is staggering:
I’m Venezuelan-American (and a liberal, not MAGA before you @ me).
It’s pressuring Maduro to accept last year’s elections. He lost to Edmundo/Maria Corina 70% to 30% and because he’s a narco terrorist him and his cronies went “nope” and used violence to suppress protests and keep a chokehold on the country.
Fellow Americans don’t understand that Maduro and his cronies are a mix of Narco Cartels + ISIS. They use violence to suppress ANY protest or riot, and when I mean violence I mean they shoot to kill hundreds and those wounded are sent to the biggest torture dungeon in our hemisphere (Helicoide) that makes Guantanamo look like Disneyland where they and their families are tortured.
American media calls it “regime change” when Edmundo has been democratically elected, American media makes it sound like we want American help to install another dictator and that’s not the case.
“But but Maria Corina sucked up to Trump!!!” Yes. The same way Zelensky also sucked up to Trump. We need American help and we all know we have to suck it up to the orange child.
“But there’ll be dead Venezuelans!! Turn Venezuela into Irak or Afghanistan!!!!” Today Maduro has been killing Venezuelans by the thousands AND 9 million of us have sought refugee all over the world in the biggest refugee crisis of the modern age. Bigger than Syria or Ukraine. Oh and Venezuela was the most stable democracy in Latin America in the XX century so no we are not Irak or Afghanistan. Look at Panama and Noriega for a better perspective.
“But we don’t want an American invasion!!” There won’t. You’re thinking of invasions of old. In this modern age Venezuelans want the USA to pull a Soleimani on the heads of the cartel with precision strikes. No American boots on the ground are needed.
“But but it’s all to steal your oil!!!” What oil? We are barely producing any and the little we do is sent to Cuba for free and to China to pay for weapons and surveillance of equipment. At least the Americans paid market price with hard currency. Currency we used to pay for infrastructure and the like.
“But Trump isn’t doing this out of the goodness of his heart!” Yeah we know. He wants a war to increase his popularity and to shut down the while Epstein and the economy fiasco. At least this’ll do some good.
Feel free to ask me any Qs, but please read my whole post. I keep getting questions that have already been answered w.r.t oil, why trump is doing it, why is this not like iraq or afghanistan, etc. If you have a new POV or Q bring it on, but please, just as GOPers and MAGATs have Biden/Obama derangement syndrome, please CHECK your Trump Derangement Syndrome as well.
The US is the top cartel. Buyer and supplier
Of people/arms/drugs.
I’m surprised someone near Maduro hasn’t decided that he is bad for business and removed him.
As a South American it’s hilarious to see Reddit defending the fucking Cartel de los Soles. Actually, the US is late to the party this time, as it was already designated as a terrorist organization by several Mercosur countries.
Seriously. I understand the rage that you have against the current US administration, but you are making a fool of yourselves.
Not another war on terror that’s actually a war to help American and foreign oil companies turn a profit…no thanks!
Reddit really going to die on the hill of defending Maduro huh? Of all the sides to pick that’s going to be the one?
You’re a terrorist, and you’re a terrorist, and you? Yep, you guessed it, terrorist.
Again, deliberate reductive thinking by the US regime to justify violence. This time, state level. There are some real malevolent pieces of crap turning the gears inside the White House.
Wonder if this has anything to do with his private talks with Mexican cartel leaders. Hmm 🤔
Moniker is effectively useless, as his administration has already named the conceptual idea of being „antifascist“ as a terrorist organization.
Felon’s turned the White House into the world’s biggest laughing stock, and he doesn’t even know it.
I love how the US precursors to terrorize other countries is to label certain groups in those countries as terrorist.
So this Cartel is probably fine to classify that way, but what about the KKK, The Proud (gay) Boys, etc.?
It is like an Oprah’s show.
You are a terrorist.
You are a terrorist.
Everybody is a terrorist!