Regierung gibt Asylreformen vollständig frei – Starmer warnt vor „erheblicher Belastung“
https://news.sky.com/story/politics-latest-starmer-asylum-mahmood-labour-budget-taxes-badenoch-farage-12593360?postid=10537602#liveblog-body
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Regierung gibt Asylreformen vollständig frei – Starmer warnt vor „erheblicher Belastung“
https://news.sky.com/story/politics-latest-starmer-asylum-mahmood-labour-budget-taxes-badenoch-farage-12593360?postid=10537602#liveblog-body
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When you put your mark in the ballot box for Labour last year, did you realise they were National Socialists? I didn’t.
>Nadia Whittome told the Commons: „The Denmark-style policies briefed in the last couple of days are dystopian …. How can we be adopting such obviously cruel policies? Is the home secretary proud that the government has sunk to such depths that it’s now being praised by [far-right activist] Tommy Robinson?“
Be interesting to see the level of resistance to what is a pretty fair and sensible bunch of changes. Labour MPs are not helping themselves by going full attack on their own parties polices that will see a lot of public support.
Funny to see Denmark being referred to so negatively when they have a Social Democrat and Liberal government as well, just more purity testing from these MPs than actual interest in fixing the system.
> On Mornings With Ridge and Frost, we asked Home Office minister Alex Norris if that’s the case, and while he wouldn’t directly confirm it, he said: „At the moment, the British public pay billions of pounds a year so that those seeking asylum, or those who have already failed in their applications, can be supported in their accommodation and their living.
> „It is right that if people have money in the bank, if people have assets like cars, like e-bikes – they should be contributing.
> „No, we’re not going to be taking people’s heirlooms off them at the border.“
> But he pointed to someone who is „getting £800 a month sent to him“ and has „got himself an Audi“.
Ok, first off, I am not naïve enough to think there are people claiming asylum fraudulently and I would hope the system would be able to weed those people out and deal with them appropriately.
Second, this sounds an awful lot like the rhetoric that’s been going around on social media saying that asylum seekers are given PS5’s , laptops and tablets which has been proven time and time again to not be true.
Thirdly, are we really paying „billions“? Really? Honestly, if someone can provide facts and figures I’d love to see them because I find it hard to believe that the figure is in the „billions“.
The Labour and other MPs opposed to such changes are more concerned with looking virtuous to a minority than the greater good of the country’s social cohesion.
I await the Labour back benchers forcing the U-turn
The core asylum vs work or education asylum just goes to show you the media furore around 20 year ILR was just nonsense.
They’re going to give you ILR much quicker for having minimum wage job.
> Kemi Badenoch has said the Conservatives will offer supportive opposition to the government’s asylum reforms – but has said they’re „nowhere near enough“.
Whilst is actually good to see the conservatives might not try and torpedo this… They had 14 years and claim this isn’t going far enough… As opposed to… I guess doing nothing…
The Danish model gets talked up as this magic fix but the reality is nowhere near as impressive.. Their asylum numbers fell mostly because of geography and EU border controls tightening, not because the ‘tough’ policies actually worked.. Copying that here wouldn’t suddenly “stop the boats” ..
What it will do is drag Labour further to the right and create an actual two tier system where people are left in limbo for years unable to settle, unable to integrate, just stuck.. even Denmark’s own experts admit it has done nothing to speed up returns or reduce desperation, it just looks harsh on paper..
If Labour are serious about fixing the mess, the answer is fast processing, proper safe routes, and getting people out of hotels not importing a model that creates more instability without solving anything..
Reeks of desperation. When will they understand that Reform voters will not pivot to them?
This is very good but will unfortunately be wrecked by the moron clown left as usual. They’re out there calling Denmark a dystopia lol
I will believe it when it actually happens.
I have absolutely no faith in anything Starmer says.
Labour can kiss goodbye to power in 2029 if they don’t vote this through
Perfectly understandable why Mahmood is going down this path.
Britain has been gripped by asylum hotel protests within the past sixteen months, and with the party losing the right-wing vote to Nigel Farage and left-wing vote to Zack Polanski, Labour has to take a stance that isn’t quarter-arsed like everything Starmer has done during his premiership so far.
I read through the policy paper and the only thing I don’t like is that this is being used as a ploy to bring in Digital ID. We already have robust right-to-work checks outside of the hospitality industry and gig economies. Digital ID won’t solve that.
>Nadia Whittome told the Commons: „The Denmark-style policies briefed in the last couple of days are dystopian.
>“It’s shameful that a Labour government is ripping up the rights and protections of people who have endured unimaginable trauma.
>“How can we be adopting such obviously cruel policies? Is the home secretary proud that the government has sunk to such depths that it’s now being praised by [far-right activist] Tommy Robinson?“
You know this argument falls flat on its face when you realise that Mahmood is following in the footsteps of a „dystopian“ and „far-right“ state like… Denmark.
>Kemi Badenoch has said the Conservatives will offer supportive opposition to the government’s asylum reforms – but has said they’re „nowhere near enough“.
To be fair, Badenoch kinda has to support this. She’s built her entire platform on copying Nigel Farage’s homework. If a major Labour rebellion shoots down these reforms (which seems increasingly likely), and Conservative MPs could have made a difference in the outcome, then she is going to lose any remaining support to Farage if she doesn’t impose a three-line whip on her party’s 119 MPs.
So a whole bunch of relatively low cost measures that are pretty much common sense and not overly draconian. Should be acceptable to all but the Farage cultists and posturing backbenchers.
Tories had 14 years in which they could have done a mere fraction of this. Rich of them to complain that it’s not „going far enough“.
And 6 labour Mps cause a u turn even if they have a stonking majority
I moved here from Poland 19 and a half years ago. During that time I managed to master the language, finish secondary school, get a university degree, get British citizenship, a well paid job, buy a house and almost pay it off. When I go on a holiday abroad and someone asks me where I’m from, I always say NI because this is my only home.
I built my entire life over the past 19.5 years and it shaped who I am now. If someone suddenly told me today that „sorry, you haven’t been here 20 years and we feel you should leave now, your plane departs at 5pm“ I don’t know how I would cope.
Fair play. I just hope their back bench doesn’t sabotage them.
Makes you wonder why the Conservatives couldn’t do all of these things. Almost everything Mahmood is talking about doing in this last week is excellent, it’s all stuff we should have done years ago.
The British public in general is compassionate to people that are in genuine need of support, and hostile to piss takers, and the feeling among a growing proportion of them is that too many of the people claiming asylum here are taking the piss and abusing our system to immigrate permanently. It’s good to change this.
It’s pretty crazy to see MPs claiming that Denmark, one of the most successful and happy social democracies in the world, is effectively far right. I don’t think the public will buy that at all.