Von mir gemacht, handgezeichnet, ich habe viel recherchiert, aber wenn ich etwas falsch gemacht habe, können Sie mich gerne korrigieren
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Von mir gemacht, handgezeichnet, ich habe viel recherchiert, aber wenn ich etwas falsch gemacht habe, können Sie mich gerne korrigieren
Von Drife_
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Portugal actually invaded the Banda Oriental in 1816, and formally annexed it to Brazil as Cisplatina in 1821. 1828 is when the war between Brazil and Argentina ended with Uruguay becoming independent. With regards to borders, the Missiones Orientales region had already been reannexed by Portuguese Brazil in 1801.
Frankly sloppy work
I’m curious: what is the basis for the Malvinas being labelled as definitively Argentinian at this time while nearly everything else south of Buenos Aires is labelled with “the borders are not clearly defined yet”?
What is the document from 1816 or before that makes the Malvinas definitively Argentinian with the remainder unclear?
„there were generations of Argentines living in the falklands trust me bro“
Argentine flag over Falklands is so innacurate
Paraguay did not formally declare independence until 1844.
In 1816, the Spanish flag was the red-weld.
It’s not Argentina until 1853, it’d be the United provinces of the river plate at the time.
The independence claim of 1816 does mention the islands, but there’s no settlement until 1820 that David Jewett established one where British had previously abandoned it, the British took it back in 1833.
Hi, just another comment about the Malvinas:
I believe that labeling them as Argentine at this particular time is, depending on your intentions, either incorrect (Edit: At least given the criteria shown in the rest of the map) or bad faith. By that time, the islands had no permanent settlement standing.
IMHO, their status in this map should be equivalent/similar to that of Patagonia, as by 1816 the British had been gone since 1775 and the Spanish since 1811. The first act of possession by the new Argentine state was in 1820, and, in my opinion, effective possession by an Argentine authority only began in 1829 when Vernet was appointed *“political and militar commander of the islands“* by the Argentine state (I believe that up to that point should be counted just as a private venture).
If you wanted to label every Argentine claim at this time as „Argentina“, then Patagonia, Chaco and Paraguay should be labeled as Argentine too, which clearly makes little sense for this map.
Other than that, nice map.
Sincerely, an other Argentine
Isla de Laja (and Rere before that) in southern Chile was part of the Captaincy General of Chile, but on the map it appears that Los Ángeles would be in indigenous governed land instead.
Since this will get full of those kinds of people who have never opened a book about international law and comment on its own opinion like it was the absolute truth without any real argument, I will leave this link with a lot of new information here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/argentina/s/bHOHRViH16
The Falkland Islands 🇬🇧
Very well done!! I like that you added that the Malvinas were under Argentinian control!
Charcas was part of the United Provinces, sent delegates to the Congress of Tucumán, and the first president of the Governing Junta was from there. The Viceroy of Peru provisionally annexed Charcas until royalist power was restored in the Río de la Plata, which enabled him to send troops against the insurgents. When the royalists partially defeated some of the ‚republiquetas,‘ the name was not changed to Alto Perú; this was never an official name for those provinces, which were always known as the Province of Charcas.
1764–1767: France settles East Falkland
1767–1811: Spain controls East Falkland
1771–1774: Britain controls West Falkland (then withdraws but maintains the claim)
1811: Spain abandons its settlement
1820: Argentina sends a symbolic claim (ship visits, raises flag)
1829: Argentina appoints a governor (Luis Vernet)
1833: Britain reasserts its claim and returns permanently
This is what I found.
Argentina didn’t even exist as a unified state in 1816. Falklands never had an Argentinian administration, settlement or presence back then. They only started claiming and settling from 1820s to 1829.
1820 a little Argentine ship visits raises a flag and leaves.
1829 a tiny settlement is formed that lasts 4 years before Britain returned.
British claims and presence go back to 1765.