it’s worse than annoying, it’s dangerous. They temporarily blind me. I’m sure it’s not just me. Headlights didn’t used to blind people. it is not a flex, it lets the world know you’re a douche if you get deliberately brighter, aggressively aimed headlights.
reiji_tamashii on
The article, like many others, pushes the narrative that the problem of dazzling headlights is magically solved in Europe by expensive technology pushed by automakers like Audi.
It’s easy to find commentary from all over Europe about how LED headlights are just as bad there:
We need real regulations on the brightness and color temperature of headlights and a forced recall of all previous models that exceed it.
iconocrastinaor on
The problem is that some light technologies experts decided that daylight spectrum (~6000 – 7000k) blue-white lights were appropriate for night time use.
This means that every time you look into those brilliant blue-white lights, you lose your night vision. That means seconds, or longer before you regain your ability to see dim objects, like pedestrians and bicyclists.
Because LED lights can be tuned to any spectrum, all they need to do is make the new headlights redder (3000 – 4500K), and most of the problem would be solved.
New_Brunswick_Guy on
I don’t care. I like being able to see at night.
the_shiny_llama on
I shouldn’t have to wear sunglasses at night when I go for a drive. There should be maximum cap to lumens in a head lamp and there should be national standard for every type of vehicle that dictates the angle of the beam. National safety standard already exist for car manufacturers. Expand them for safety.
Key-Beginning-2201 on
Just adopt EU’s regulations. This isn’t that hard.
TheElusiveFox on
This isn’t a tech problem related to some magic tech to stop forward lights or lights at an angle when detecting cars…
This is a problem related to LED lights – that super bright white light might be amazing for visibility, but its also incredibly penetrating and dazzling. We used to use a yellow toned light for a reason, – it wasn’t that we didn’t have the tech for bright white lights, its that engineers understood that the yellow tones caused less glare, and were less reflective on road surfaces for people’s eyes which while not lighting up the area around you as a driver as well, was good for other drivers not being blinded…
PacketFiend on
I invite you all to join us over at r/fuckyourheadlights
edthesmokebeard on
More regulation will definitely solve all our problems.
LED lights have really been a blessing and a curse. The energy savings are great but the light pollution is a real problem. It’s so cheap and easy now to just make as much light as possible all the time.
jackylnefrost on
Fuck every modern headlight and signal lamp on today’s automobiles.
The headlights are WAY too bright and because of their color/temp, they do NOT effectively improve visibility. Meaning, for every 25% increase in brightness, that produces 5% improved visibility. To get an appreciable, measurable, appreciable increase in visibility, these modern lamps need to be 100% brighter. That is my understanding, anyway. Someone chime in with specifics, please. All I know is that sometimes the sun behind me is actually creating a shadow in front of me. It’s ridiculous.
The signal lamps? Same thing. I actually saw an LED lamp designed to *look* like an incandescent in an Audi a few days ago!😭🤣 A thousand-dollar LED lamp housing performing the function of a $3.99 incandescent bulb.
All part of every industry’s duty to produce something stupid for the stupid and gradually „improve“ the product until it’s almost acceptable… then start it all over again. The USA is hustle playground.
Li54 on
This article explains nothing, but I super agree it’s a massive safety concern
boeingb17 on
We will eventually find out that this is why pedestrian deaths near dusk are rising rapidly. If someone is driving toward you with these lights, you can’t see anything in front of you.
saml01 on
These bright ass headlights are competing with city lighting. They have also destroyed people’s night vision.
glitchinthemeowtrix on
It’s a tough time in history to have astigmatism, I’ll say that.
a4k04 on
I drive an older car, 1998 toyota supra, low to the ground so my eyes are just about even with most of the SUVs running around my area. This is on me, I chose to drive this car. However, the change in the past 10 years has taken it from mildly annoying to downright blinding. My lights, quite normal 15 years ago, seem like candles compared with modern cars. I did a test a few weeks ago, drove home with the high beams on, didn’t get flashed a single time to turn them off. People assume my high beams are normal lights these days. Ridiculous.
TentacleTenpai on
“I can see better, that’s all that matters.”
– They then completely blind 100+ drivers on the way to the store, who then can’t see the road, can’t see anyone crossing, can’t see shit… but as long as the person with the bright lights can see, it’s okay.
fissionmoment on
DOT and ECE low beam aiming standards are not adequate for how bright modern LEDs and HIDs are. If u try to adjust an LED using current DOT headlight standards it was blast the eyes of everyone on the road.
LEDs are fine, even good. The regulations that they are being set up to follow our outdated and for lights of much lower brightness.
Edit: also all LEDs should target 4000-4500k color temp. 5000-6000 is fine on a clear night but in bad weather it is an issue.
2beatenup on
Did you say lights…. Yes i am part of the problem but only if you force me to be one unfortunately. I had to add the aftermarket off-road light to my 12 year old suv because driving at night was becoming sooooooo annoying with these new cars… I absolutely don’t flip them on unless you are being an arse or blinding me with your Mordern lights…. Then there are three stages… stage one-my regular old car yellow lights… stage two- my polite high-beam flick to tell your high beams are up… if not then stage three- my 6x 6000 white lumens will get your attention…
Visible_Fact_8706 on
Oh man I thought it was just me because I have astigmatism
chrisgrou on
You’re unbelievably annoying
similarityhedgehog on
Another issue is that your average motor vehicle is higher than ever before. Drive a sedan, like a Corolla or civic? Every suv, pickup and minivan (probably 75% of road traffic) has headlights at eye level.
drakenoftamarac on
The lifted trucks with the massive light panels are the worst.
Chibow on
I’d like to add that these high powered flashlights are annoying and painful as hell too. Inconsiderate asses everywhere at night when walking the dog!
Hypnotist30 on
If you’re rolling with OEM compliant lamps, you’re not a problem. Aftermarket C R A P is the problem.
Every part of a headlamp assembly is designed to work with the lamp. The lamps have rigorous design requirements. Use the shit you should be using.
imacleopard on
So much ignorance in every single in of these posts. It’s about optics and headlight alignment. You can get blinded by halogens just the same, just ask any douchebag with their brights on.
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TL;DR it’s mostly aftermarket headlights installed/aimed improperly, plus gov banning adaptive headlight technology
it’s worse than annoying, it’s dangerous. They temporarily blind me. I’m sure it’s not just me. Headlights didn’t used to blind people. it is not a flex, it lets the world know you’re a douche if you get deliberately brighter, aggressively aimed headlights.
The article, like many others, pushes the narrative that the problem of dazzling headlights is magically solved in Europe by expensive technology pushed by automakers like Audi.
It’s easy to find commentary from all over Europe about how LED headlights are just as bad there:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckyourheadlights/comments/1omejby/adb_is_not_a_solution_here_in_europe_specifically/](https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckyourheadlights/comments/1omejby/adb_is_not_a_solution_here_in_europe_specifically/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/ich_iel/comments/1nxtf8b/ich_iel/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ich_iel/comments/1nxtf8b/ich_iel/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckyourheadlights/comments/1n7pv7y/this_meme_keeps_manifesting_in_comment_sections/](https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckyourheadlights/comments/1n7pv7y/this_meme_keeps_manifesting_in_comment_sections/)
We need real regulations on the brightness and color temperature of headlights and a forced recall of all previous models that exceed it.
The problem is that some light technologies experts decided that daylight spectrum (~6000 – 7000k) blue-white lights were appropriate for night time use.
This means that every time you look into those brilliant blue-white lights, you lose your night vision. That means seconds, or longer before you regain your ability to see dim objects, like pedestrians and bicyclists.
Because LED lights can be tuned to any spectrum, all they need to do is make the new headlights redder (3000 – 4500K), and most of the problem would be solved.
I don’t care. I like being able to see at night.
I shouldn’t have to wear sunglasses at night when I go for a drive. There should be maximum cap to lumens in a head lamp and there should be national standard for every type of vehicle that dictates the angle of the beam. National safety standard already exist for car manufacturers. Expand them for safety.
Just adopt EU’s regulations. This isn’t that hard.
This isn’t a tech problem related to some magic tech to stop forward lights or lights at an angle when detecting cars…
This is a problem related to LED lights – that super bright white light might be amazing for visibility, but its also incredibly penetrating and dazzling. We used to use a yellow toned light for a reason, – it wasn’t that we didn’t have the tech for bright white lights, its that engineers understood that the yellow tones caused less glare, and were less reflective on road surfaces for people’s eyes which while not lighting up the area around you as a driver as well, was good for other drivers not being blinded…
I invite you all to join us over at r/fuckyourheadlights
More regulation will definitely solve all our problems.
It’s obvious if you’ve ever had a beemer driving behind or towards [you….](https://youtube.com/shorts/tjkMB6aIDXg?si=zbu9VXmnleCsIGkC)
Because nighttime is dark. Duh.
LED lights have really been a blessing and a curse. The energy savings are great but the light pollution is a real problem. It’s so cheap and easy now to just make as much light as possible all the time.
Fuck every modern headlight and signal lamp on today’s automobiles.
The headlights are WAY too bright and because of their color/temp, they do NOT effectively improve visibility. Meaning, for every 25% increase in brightness, that produces 5% improved visibility. To get an appreciable, measurable, appreciable increase in visibility, these modern lamps need to be 100% brighter. That is my understanding, anyway. Someone chime in with specifics, please. All I know is that sometimes the sun behind me is actually creating a shadow in front of me. It’s ridiculous.
The signal lamps? Same thing. I actually saw an LED lamp designed to *look* like an incandescent in an Audi a few days ago!😭🤣 A thousand-dollar LED lamp housing performing the function of a $3.99 incandescent bulb.
All part of every industry’s duty to produce something stupid for the stupid and gradually „improve“ the product until it’s almost acceptable… then start it all over again. The USA is hustle playground.
This article explains nothing, but I super agree it’s a massive safety concern
We will eventually find out that this is why pedestrian deaths near dusk are rising rapidly. If someone is driving toward you with these lights, you can’t see anything in front of you.
These bright ass headlights are competing with city lighting. They have also destroyed people’s night vision.
It’s a tough time in history to have astigmatism, I’ll say that.
I drive an older car, 1998 toyota supra, low to the ground so my eyes are just about even with most of the SUVs running around my area. This is on me, I chose to drive this car. However, the change in the past 10 years has taken it from mildly annoying to downright blinding. My lights, quite normal 15 years ago, seem like candles compared with modern cars. I did a test a few weeks ago, drove home with the high beams on, didn’t get flashed a single time to turn them off. People assume my high beams are normal lights these days. Ridiculous.
“I can see better, that’s all that matters.”
– They then completely blind 100+ drivers on the way to the store, who then can’t see the road, can’t see anyone crossing, can’t see shit… but as long as the person with the bright lights can see, it’s okay.
DOT and ECE low beam aiming standards are not adequate for how bright modern LEDs and HIDs are. If u try to adjust an LED using current DOT headlight standards it was blast the eyes of everyone on the road.
LEDs are fine, even good. The regulations that they are being set up to follow our outdated and for lights of much lower brightness.
Edit: also all LEDs should target 4000-4500k color temp. 5000-6000 is fine on a clear night but in bad weather it is an issue.
Did you say lights…. Yes i am part of the problem but only if you force me to be one unfortunately. I had to add the aftermarket off-road light to my 12 year old suv because driving at night was becoming sooooooo annoying with these new cars… I absolutely don’t flip them on unless you are being an arse or blinding me with your Mordern lights…. Then there are three stages… stage one-my regular old car yellow lights… stage two- my polite high-beam flick to tell your high beams are up… if not then stage three- my 6x 6000 white lumens will get your attention…
Oh man I thought it was just me because I have astigmatism
You’re unbelievably annoying
Another issue is that your average motor vehicle is higher than ever before. Drive a sedan, like a Corolla or civic? Every suv, pickup and minivan (probably 75% of road traffic) has headlights at eye level.
The lifted trucks with the massive light panels are the worst.
I’d like to add that these high powered flashlights are annoying and painful as hell too. Inconsiderate asses everywhere at night when walking the dog!
If you’re rolling with OEM compliant lamps, you’re not a problem. Aftermarket C R A P is the problem.
Every part of a headlamp assembly is designed to work with the lamp. The lamps have rigorous design requirements. Use the shit you should be using.
So much ignorance in every single in of these posts. It’s about optics and headlight alignment. You can get blinded by halogens just the same, just ask any douchebag with their brights on.