I might be partisan since I unboarded the W11 boat 2-3 years ago. But they -management / board of directors / shareholders – lost the customer/buyer requirements.
Which are: an efficient & pretty way to work with a computer.
And are focussing on hypes and advertising Revenue. But just as in the gaming ecosysteem, no (paying) customer likes ads.
And we just want a darn good game.
Also there I left AAA games a long time ago.
Also – when I need AI, I prefer to not use copilot/chatgpt, there are viable alternatives:
kimi, qwen, GLM – all have websites that are just like chatgpt, I just use those.
agent-m-calavera on
Is SteamOS good enough yet so we can finally get off this Windows train wreck?
forShizAndGigz00001 on
Linux is the way forward sadly, microsoft is in its death throws for non business consumers.
Maleficent-Rush407 on
Welcome to enshittification.
albeva on
People whose opinion matters (investors, governments, data brokers, and processors) all love the idea. So there is that. You’re getting „agentic“ whether you want it or not.
brickout on
The best product MS ever convinced me to accept is Linux.
Keyai on
Money ruins all. Though I bet if Microsoft launched a “barebones” Windows it would be a massive hit and they wouldn’t have to beg and plead with people to upgrade. It wouldn’t make as much money though as their current shitty model. It’d be good for consumers which no one in charge gives a shit about, lmao.
PauI_MuadDib on
Linux, I love you. Please never enshittify.
KS-Wolf-1978 on
I can see how if done right this could be really good.
But i don’t have much confidence in Microsoft actually doing it right. 🙂
usmannaeem on
I am sorry for using this language, and yet an operating system as an agentic is the really stupid idea.
Ruddertail on
If they force AI into it, that’ll be the point where I dual boot.
I can’t give up Windows entirely, too many things that only work on Windows… but certainly it’d only be used when necessary.
Apart-Apple-Red on
I moved to Ubuntu (Linux). No regrets.
I also told my children that I’m not going to buy any new computer with Windows in it anymore. Linux it is now.
Thanks to proton and Steam company games do work on Linux fairly well so there’s no excuse anymore. And if game will not support Linux, they’ll have to play something else.
-Bezequil- on
Microsoft worked so hard at getting me to upgrade from windows 10, and i did!
I went to Linux Mint.
RobertoPaulson on
I have no desire to switch to Linux, but they’re eventually going to force me to.
Negritis on
stock market companies dont give a shit about what the product is, they just need to include the meaningless buzzwords to „pump it up“
agentic by itself is barely working due to inconsistency, windows has a lot of problems already
the cloudstrike fiasco wasnt that long ago, that will look like kids play compared to the disasters this can bring later
BlueGumShoe on
Ive been running linux on my laptops for years and I’ve got a debian iso on a usb drive rn. Finally going to switch over on desktop. Its funny seeing the similar replies, I dont think its all hyperbole.
Windows 11 is just not good from a stability or especially privacy standpoint. And a lot of tech oriented people who have been on the fence about Linux for years I think are getting the push they needed, myself included.
And I dont see how the forceful move to AI is going to make anything better. Windows gets unfair hate sometimes and I get that, but they quite literally want to turn your PC into a spyware machine, that spies on you, the user, in everything you do. No thanks good grief.
holiwud111 on
I’m still irritated about the shift to O365 and how I had to jump through hoops to get desktop apps. Default saving to the cloud is annoying too – I have to click like 4-5 times to save a Word doc / PPT to my own freaking desktop at work. I have no choice in the matter.
The O365 suite is a pale comparison to desktop versions that people are familiar with, too… wonky, slow, non-intuitive, cut out when internet goes down, etc.
This will probably send me over the edge – an agentic OS is a hammer looking for a nail, like a lot of things in tech right now. AI is the buzzword, so… „We have implemented AI everywhere! Who cares if it makes sense?“
DctrGizmo on
I would switch to Linux if a few games I play with anti-cheat work.
bigred1978 on
„Copilot Vision will scan open webpages to gather relevant information.“
No. No thank you.
InsuranceToTheRescue on
I don’t understand. Lol.
What does the adjective ‚agentic‘ even mean? Is it just their new way of saying something is „AI,“ because they’ve oversold the AI bullshit so much that it just makes people roll their eyes?
drbomb on
„agentic“ has to be the worst AI buzzword that has come out
SingularityCentral on
Desperately trying to justify their AI investments. But it is becoming more and more clear that the infrastructure and operating costs of AI are simply too high to generate a profit.
Gnomonas on
So they are aware that the consumers do not want this but they keep forcing it anyway. Literally they are planning their own demise here.
No_Coach_9129 on
I left windows after 7, went to Mac and haven’t looked back. Sucks for gaming but I got a ps5 for that.
big-papito on
I had to reinstall Windows 11 this week because apparently no one f–ing tested USB keyboards in the new „recovery“ mode. I was stuck in an infinite loop. Where is your AI now, HUH?
It’s a memory hog too. Pretty sure my performance has had a decrease since copilot.
ScrungulusBungulus on
Gotta keep up the AI hype to pump up the stock artificially
Downtown_Category163 on
Windows users only ever want Windows 7 though
Jaiden051 on
Hopefully more anti cheat will start to support Linux with the arrival of the GabeCube.
Then I will switch to SteamOS. Already have an AMD GPU, I am ready.
auditorydamage on
Petition to ban the word “agentic” in 2026. It gives me a similar feeling to the sound of nails on a chalkboard, never mind the technical, usability, and security nightmares seemingly ignored by everyone rushing to bolt LLM frontends on their software.
floppemis on
I swear, the day when Microsoft makes a new product that doesn’t suck, it will be a vacuum cleaner.
olizet42 on
My machine went EOL with Windows 10. So I bought a Mac.
Saneless on
If MS wants people back it needs to do what it did in the mid to late 90s (95, 98). Consumers get a slick consumer OS and corporate gets a fatter slower shittier OS (NT).
Because all the fucking trash it’s stuffing in there doesn’t make my gaming better
But I’ve moved to Linux a year and a half ago and I only boot into windows when it’s 100% absolutely necessary. Which is rare
Difficult_Pop8262 on
Got rid of my Surface devices, got myself a Framework, installed Fedora and move all my workflows to Linux.
It’s like breathing clean air from 2005 again.
FoolLanding on
If Steam Machine picks up, and performs well, all the machines in my house will be Linux
WesTheFitting on
Jfc I can’t believe I’m about to become a Linux person
EricGarbo on
Satya Fucking Nadella
prof_dr_mr_obvious on
Sure set the enshittification on 11.
Luckily Linux exists. Been using is for 20+ years and enjoying it every single day and a bit more when I read things like this.
KenUsimi on
This is exactly NOT the kind of stuff they should be saying if they actually want me to stick with them. Jesus fucking christ, read the room you spreadsheet-soulled prick!
Strange-Scarcity on
It’s like Microsoft’s entire development people in charge of things is now refusing to listen to what users are telling them.
It’s the same across all of the big ass tech companies, they are all becoming Principal Skinner. They are so out of touch, but are trying to paint all the users as out of touch.
It really sucks.
It would be better if they just gave us some damn choice.
Stripped Down Productivity, Gaming and Office OS.
Ad Filled Home Control OS.
Bloated AI slop nonsense that listens to your every word OS.
Then watch what the market gobbles up and… go in that direction.
I still think MS should be completely broken apart. OS company, Game Technology Company (DirectX), Office Productivity Company, Stupid AI Slop Bullshit Company, Online Software Sales Company (Like Steam or the Apple AppStore) and maybe a few others.
Then we could get a DirectX layer for Linux and MacOSX (if the market calls for that)
What they are doing is far to incestuous and is a big part of why Linux just hit 5% of Desktops recently.
Another_Slut_Dragon on
Micro$oft’s great ‚innovation‘ for every new version is to scramble the Ui and move controls to new random locations but underneath it is just the same OS it was last time.
FUCKING STOP IT.
Pick a way it works and stick with it.
Nobody wants a search bar for apps that opens up fucking edge. Or a charms menu. You don’t all of a sudden decide that your cars turn signals should be in the centre console.
TwoWeaselsInDisguise on
Linux is in a great spot and the more people that come over the more devs will want to support the platform.
bswalsh on
I admit, I don’t hate the idea of computers working like the starship Enterprise computer. And when AI is exclusively on my PC, not relying on the cloud, not sharing my information, and not run by Microsoft I’ll be interested. But for now it exists only to scrape and sell personal data. Fuck that.
When I can have an entirely offline AI that is entirely under my control and runs on Linux we can talk.
Pandamio on
That would be great if we had any chance at privacy while doing it.
Capt_BrickBeard on
With the announcement of the Steam Machine/GabeCube, im leaving windows behind for good.
deicist on
The problem MS has is that they’ve invested so much in AI they have to find a way for it to generate revenue or they’re fucked.
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I might be partisan since I unboarded the W11 boat 2-3 years ago. But they -management / board of directors / shareholders – lost the customer/buyer requirements.
Which are: an efficient & pretty way to work with a computer.
And are focussing on hypes and advertising Revenue. But just as in the gaming ecosysteem, no (paying) customer likes ads.
And we just want a darn good game.
Also there I left AAA games a long time ago.
[](https://www.reddit.com/user/cranberrie_sauce/)what I feel is kind of cool – there are real viable alternatives these days .
I use fedora linux and I dont need microsoft.
Also – when I need AI, I prefer to not use copilot/chatgpt, there are viable alternatives:
kimi, qwen, GLM – all have websites that are just like chatgpt, I just use those.
Is SteamOS good enough yet so we can finally get off this Windows train wreck?
Linux is the way forward sadly, microsoft is in its death throws for non business consumers.
Welcome to enshittification.
People whose opinion matters (investors, governments, data brokers, and processors) all love the idea. So there is that. You’re getting „agentic“ whether you want it or not.
The best product MS ever convinced me to accept is Linux.
Money ruins all. Though I bet if Microsoft launched a “barebones” Windows it would be a massive hit and they wouldn’t have to beg and plead with people to upgrade. It wouldn’t make as much money though as their current shitty model. It’d be good for consumers which no one in charge gives a shit about, lmao.
Linux, I love you. Please never enshittify.
I can see how if done right this could be really good.
But i don’t have much confidence in Microsoft actually doing it right. 🙂
I am sorry for using this language, and yet an operating system as an agentic is the really stupid idea.
If they force AI into it, that’ll be the point where I dual boot.
I can’t give up Windows entirely, too many things that only work on Windows… but certainly it’d only be used when necessary.
I moved to Ubuntu (Linux). No regrets.
I also told my children that I’m not going to buy any new computer with Windows in it anymore. Linux it is now.
Thanks to proton and Steam company games do work on Linux fairly well so there’s no excuse anymore. And if game will not support Linux, they’ll have to play something else.
Microsoft worked so hard at getting me to upgrade from windows 10, and i did!
I went to Linux Mint.
I have no desire to switch to Linux, but they’re eventually going to force me to.
stock market companies dont give a shit about what the product is, they just need to include the meaningless buzzwords to „pump it up“
agentic by itself is barely working due to inconsistency, windows has a lot of problems already
the cloudstrike fiasco wasnt that long ago, that will look like kids play compared to the disasters this can bring later
Ive been running linux on my laptops for years and I’ve got a debian iso on a usb drive rn. Finally going to switch over on desktop. Its funny seeing the similar replies, I dont think its all hyperbole.
Windows 11 is just not good from a stability or especially privacy standpoint. And a lot of tech oriented people who have been on the fence about Linux for years I think are getting the push they needed, myself included.
And I dont see how the forceful move to AI is going to make anything better. Windows gets unfair hate sometimes and I get that, but they quite literally want to turn your PC into a spyware machine, that spies on you, the user, in everything you do. No thanks good grief.
I’m still irritated about the shift to O365 and how I had to jump through hoops to get desktop apps. Default saving to the cloud is annoying too – I have to click like 4-5 times to save a Word doc / PPT to my own freaking desktop at work. I have no choice in the matter.
The O365 suite is a pale comparison to desktop versions that people are familiar with, too… wonky, slow, non-intuitive, cut out when internet goes down, etc.
This will probably send me over the edge – an agentic OS is a hammer looking for a nail, like a lot of things in tech right now. AI is the buzzword, so… „We have implemented AI everywhere! Who cares if it makes sense?“
I would switch to Linux if a few games I play with anti-cheat work.
„Copilot Vision will scan open webpages to gather relevant information.“
No. No thank you.
I don’t understand. Lol.
What does the adjective ‚agentic‘ even mean? Is it just their new way of saying something is „AI,“ because they’ve oversold the AI bullshit so much that it just makes people roll their eyes?
„agentic“ has to be the worst AI buzzword that has come out
Desperately trying to justify their AI investments. But it is becoming more and more clear that the infrastructure and operating costs of AI are simply too high to generate a profit.
So they are aware that the consumers do not want this but they keep forcing it anyway. Literally they are planning their own demise here.
I left windows after 7, went to Mac and haven’t looked back. Sucks for gaming but I got a ps5 for that.
I had to reinstall Windows 11 this week because apparently no one f–ing tested USB keyboards in the new „recovery“ mode. I was stuck in an infinite loop. Where is your AI now, HUH?
[https://www.techpowerup.com/342032/windows-11-25h2-october-update-bug-renders-recovery-environment-unusable](https://www.techpowerup.com/342032/windows-11-25h2-october-update-bug-renders-recovery-environment-unusable)
It’s a memory hog too. Pretty sure my performance has had a decrease since copilot.
Gotta keep up the AI hype to pump up the stock artificially
Windows users only ever want Windows 7 though
Hopefully more anti cheat will start to support Linux with the arrival of the GabeCube.
Then I will switch to SteamOS. Already have an AMD GPU, I am ready.
Petition to ban the word “agentic” in 2026. It gives me a similar feeling to the sound of nails on a chalkboard, never mind the technical, usability, and security nightmares seemingly ignored by everyone rushing to bolt LLM frontends on their software.
I swear, the day when Microsoft makes a new product that doesn’t suck, it will be a vacuum cleaner.
My machine went EOL with Windows 10. So I bought a Mac.
If MS wants people back it needs to do what it did in the mid to late 90s (95, 98). Consumers get a slick consumer OS and corporate gets a fatter slower shittier OS (NT).
Because all the fucking trash it’s stuffing in there doesn’t make my gaming better
But I’ve moved to Linux a year and a half ago and I only boot into windows when it’s 100% absolutely necessary. Which is rare
Got rid of my Surface devices, got myself a Framework, installed Fedora and move all my workflows to Linux.
It’s like breathing clean air from 2005 again.
If Steam Machine picks up, and performs well, all the machines in my house will be Linux
Jfc I can’t believe I’m about to become a Linux person
Satya Fucking Nadella
Sure set the enshittification on 11.
Luckily Linux exists. Been using is for 20+ years and enjoying it every single day and a bit more when I read things like this.
This is exactly NOT the kind of stuff they should be saying if they actually want me to stick with them. Jesus fucking christ, read the room you spreadsheet-soulled prick!
It’s like Microsoft’s entire development people in charge of things is now refusing to listen to what users are telling them.
It’s the same across all of the big ass tech companies, they are all becoming Principal Skinner. They are so out of touch, but are trying to paint all the users as out of touch.
It really sucks.
It would be better if they just gave us some damn choice.
Stripped Down Productivity, Gaming and Office OS.
Ad Filled Home Control OS.
Bloated AI slop nonsense that listens to your every word OS.
Then watch what the market gobbles up and… go in that direction.
I still think MS should be completely broken apart. OS company, Game Technology Company (DirectX), Office Productivity Company, Stupid AI Slop Bullshit Company, Online Software Sales Company (Like Steam or the Apple AppStore) and maybe a few others.
Then we could get a DirectX layer for Linux and MacOSX (if the market calls for that)
What they are doing is far to incestuous and is a big part of why Linux just hit 5% of Desktops recently.
Micro$oft’s great ‚innovation‘ for every new version is to scramble the Ui and move controls to new random locations but underneath it is just the same OS it was last time.
FUCKING STOP IT.
Pick a way it works and stick with it.
Nobody wants a search bar for apps that opens up fucking edge. Or a charms menu. You don’t all of a sudden decide that your cars turn signals should be in the centre console.
Linux is in a great spot and the more people that come over the more devs will want to support the platform.
I admit, I don’t hate the idea of computers working like the starship Enterprise computer. And when AI is exclusively on my PC, not relying on the cloud, not sharing my information, and not run by Microsoft I’ll be interested. But for now it exists only to scrape and sell personal data. Fuck that.
When I can have an entirely offline AI that is entirely under my control and runs on Linux we can talk.
That would be great if we had any chance at privacy while doing it.
With the announcement of the Steam Machine/GabeCube, im leaving windows behind for good.
The problem MS has is that they’ve invested so much in AI they have to find a way for it to generate revenue or they’re fucked.