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    1. „The campaign recasts surveillance as safety“ 

      How many freedoms have been lost under the promise of a safer world? 

    2. meanwhile criminals will just send pgp encrypted txt, and manually decrypt it.
      AI could probably help build an app to do it too, auto copy and paste from your fav app.

    3. ForwardReflection980 on

      They’re not even trying to hide it. Anyone remotely technically minded knows there’s a million and one ways around anything they propose, they’re not even bothering with the arguments anymore. Just naked censorship and surveillance these days.

    4. J8YDG9RTT8N2TG74YS7A on

      1) They fundamentally misunderstand how the tech works.

      2) This is already in place for a large amount of apps, including Reddit, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, etc.

      This has been in place already for many years.

      > proposal that would make every private message pass through a local checkpoint before being sent.

      That’s not how it works.

      The image is scanned and hashed.

      The HASH is sent and compared against a list of known CSAM.

      At no point is your message sent to a third party waiting to be cleared.

      > And once the scanning infrastructure is built, there is nothing stopping it from being redirected toward new categories of “harmful” or “illegal” content. The precedent would be set: your phone would no longer be a private space.

      Again, this has been in place for many years.

      Show me where it has affected anyone already.

    5. at what point as a country so we just accept we’re run by clowns and the best thing we can do is sing kumbaya, hand in hand, on the white cliffs of Dover

    6. frequently_grumpy on

      > Safeguarding Minister Jess Phillips praised the IWF campaign, saying: “It is clear that the British public want greater protections for children online and we are working with technology companies so more can be done to keep children safer.

      Errr I think the majority of people see your online safety act and the “think of the children” excuses as complete BS

    7. This the same Jess Phillips that voted against an inquiry into the grooming gangs and then was accused of trying to derail/ readjust the focus of said inquiry. That Jess Phillips?

    8. After the fourteen long, barren years of Tory rule the last thing we needed was a more authoritarian centre-right party. Alas.

    9. Meanwhile in EU:

      > If regular scanning proved impossible, governments could order companies to install client-side scanning, software that inspects messages on the user’s own device before encryption.

      > The backlash was instant. Legal experts warned that the **plan violated Articles 7 and 8 of the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights**, which guarantee privacy and data protection.

      Don’t we have in our laws as well?

    10. They’re just laying the foundations to enlist one large government controlled AI overwatch.

      That’s what all this stuff is leading up to. The AI will make sure we pesky humans are behaving once it can access all of our privacy.

      Not a conspiracy.

    11. What does it do if it finds a match, just block it or send it somewhere for review?

      The former at least preserves privacy though has free speech problems, the latter will cause the inevitable false matches to trigger major privacy breaches.

    12. I’m old enough to remember when councils (in collaboration with the police) started installing CCTV systems on our high streets. There was some push back against it and subsequent promises that cameras would only be installed in very limited numbers and locations and would only be used to catch serious criminals.

      It was a couple of years before councils started using them to catch and prosecute people for parking and littering offences. Now we’re the most surveilled country in the world (per capita).

      Client Side Scanning for CSA is the „sell“ but in reality it’s just a gateway. Before you know it, CSS with AI integration will be monitoring and reporting everything we do on our device – and probably selling that data to third parties (Palantir?)

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