Today in 1919, Ireland marked Armistice Day for the first time, the one-year anniversary of the silencing of the guns on the Western Front. Ireland was still officially part of the United Kingdom, yet something drastically had shifted. The First Dáil already convened that January in the Mansion House, declaring independence without fanfare just a kind of solemn inevitability. Two ideas of Ireland existed in parallel and neither acknowledged the other.
The Great War itself had torn us in two long before the Easter Rising. Redmond had urged Nationalists to fight for the Empire, promising Home Rule in return. Others believed that Ireland’s freedom would need to be taken, and correctly claimed the British couldnt be trust to grant eventual independence. The Volunteers split. Thousands left for France and Flanders, Gallipoli and the Middle East. Others stayed, trained, waited. The war ended, but the divisions did not.
King George V addressed the Empire on the 6th of November 1919, expressing his desire that at the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month, all normal life should stop for two minutes of silence.
And in Dublin, at 11 a.m., the city did stop. Government offices paused. Railways and trams halted. Banks and several factories closed work. Trinity College flew its flags. Certain shops raised the Union Jack. Along O’Connell Street, pedestrians removed their hats and stood in place, and the sound of the city quieted into something like reverence. For many, it was a genuine moment of mourning. There were few families in Ireland untouched by loss. You could feel it in the air.
But there was also justifiable bitterness and anger. Just as the outbreak of war had split the Irish Volunteers, the marking of peace split the country again. Who were the dead being remembered as? Tans? British soldiers? Irishmen? Patriots? Pawns?
A newspaper later reported, under the headline Sinn Feiners Clash with Dublin Students, that a group from Trinity College marched into St Stephen’s Green singing God Save the King. They met Sinn Féin supporters who took exception to the symbolism. Words were exchanged. Then blows. One account described it as “a free-fight lasting an hour”, with sticks and stones thrown before the groups drifted apart. Even remembrance, it seemed, could be a battlefield.
Further south, in Clonmel, a requiem mass was held in SS Peter and Paul’s for 300 local men who had died in the war, and one imagines it as something quieter, more human. The names read out slowly. Mothers present. The old men of the town standing with caps in hand. No imperial banners, just grief.
The figures themselves are staggering. Ireland’s Memorial Records, published in 1923, list at least 30,986 Irish-born soldiers who died in the Great War. Many historians believe the number is closer to 40,000. Over 210,000 Irish-born men enlisted. The vast majority served in the British Army. Another 4,731 fought with Australia, and nearly 20,000 with Canada.
So the first Armistice Day in Ireland was not simply a moment of silence. It was a mirror held to a country dividing and rearranging itself. Some stood for the King. Some stood for the Republic. And many simply stood for the dead, who belonged to no political faction….
quantum0058d on
„I’ll celebrate by wearing black“
Everybody….
„What a great idea 💡 😁“
irishmrmagpie on
You could at least credit u/Cogitoergosum1981 who you took this from
Downtown_Expert572 on
„Watch where you’re standin‘ , mind the childer..“
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I just did a bit of googling and found out some interesting information.
The population of the entire island was approx 4.4million so about 10% of all the men in Ireland were in the army and navy with ~130,000 volunteers. About half of the volunteers were from the republic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_population_of_Ireland
Approximately 35,000 Irishmen in the British forces died in the war, ~17% of those Irishmen who fought. Compared to ~13% of all members of the British army (includes all commonwealth and territories – and of course the ~17% of Irishmen). The total number of dead in the British forces was ~704,000.
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First Armistice Day – credit u/Cogitoergosum1981
Today in 1919, Ireland marked Armistice Day for the first time, the one-year anniversary of the silencing of the guns on the Western Front. Ireland was still officially part of the United Kingdom, yet something drastically had shifted. The First Dáil already convened that January in the Mansion House, declaring independence without fanfare just a kind of solemn inevitability. Two ideas of Ireland existed in parallel and neither acknowledged the other.
The Great War itself had torn us in two long before the Easter Rising. Redmond had urged Nationalists to fight for the Empire, promising Home Rule in return. Others believed that Ireland’s freedom would need to be taken, and correctly claimed the British couldnt be trust to grant eventual independence. The Volunteers split. Thousands left for France and Flanders, Gallipoli and the Middle East. Others stayed, trained, waited. The war ended, but the divisions did not.
King George V addressed the Empire on the 6th of November 1919, expressing his desire that at the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month, all normal life should stop for two minutes of silence.
And in Dublin, at 11 a.m., the city did stop. Government offices paused. Railways and trams halted. Banks and several factories closed work. Trinity College flew its flags. Certain shops raised the Union Jack. Along O’Connell Street, pedestrians removed their hats and stood in place, and the sound of the city quieted into something like reverence. For many, it was a genuine moment of mourning. There were few families in Ireland untouched by loss. You could feel it in the air.
But there was also justifiable bitterness and anger. Just as the outbreak of war had split the Irish Volunteers, the marking of peace split the country again. Who were the dead being remembered as? Tans? British soldiers? Irishmen? Patriots? Pawns?
A newspaper later reported, under the headline Sinn Feiners Clash with Dublin Students, that a group from Trinity College marched into St Stephen’s Green singing God Save the King. They met Sinn Féin supporters who took exception to the symbolism. Words were exchanged. Then blows. One account described it as “a free-fight lasting an hour”, with sticks and stones thrown before the groups drifted apart. Even remembrance, it seemed, could be a battlefield.
Further south, in Clonmel, a requiem mass was held in SS Peter and Paul’s for 300 local men who had died in the war, and one imagines it as something quieter, more human. The names read out slowly. Mothers present. The old men of the town standing with caps in hand. No imperial banners, just grief.
The figures themselves are staggering. Ireland’s Memorial Records, published in 1923, list at least 30,986 Irish-born soldiers who died in the Great War. Many historians believe the number is closer to 40,000. Over 210,000 Irish-born men enlisted. The vast majority served in the British Army. Another 4,731 fought with Australia, and nearly 20,000 with Canada.
So the first Armistice Day in Ireland was not simply a moment of silence. It was a mirror held to a country dividing and rearranging itself. Some stood for the King. Some stood for the Republic. And many simply stood for the dead, who belonged to no political faction….
„I’ll celebrate by wearing black“
Everybody….
„What a great idea 💡 😁“
You could at least credit u/Cogitoergosum1981 who you took this from
„Watch where you’re standin‘ , mind the childer..“
I just did a bit of googling and found out some interesting information.
The first shot of the war in europe was fired by a man born in London to Irish parents. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Thomas_(British_Army_soldier)
Lord Kitchener from the famous poster „your country needs you“ was born near Listowel in Kerry (very much Anglo-Irish …. i.e. not very Irish at all)
It was recorded that ~210,000 men from the island of Ireland fought in the British army, with more Irishmen living in Canada and Australia joining their armies. There were approx 58,000 Irishmen already in the army/reservists and navy at the outbreak of the war.
https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/irelands-role-in-the-first-world-war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland_and_World_War_I
The population of the entire island was approx 4.4million so about 10% of all the men in Ireland were in the army and navy with ~130,000 volunteers. About half of the volunteers were from the republic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_population_of_Ireland
Approximately 35,000 Irishmen in the British forces died in the war, ~17% of those Irishmen who fought. Compared to ~13% of all members of the British army (includes all commonwealth and territories – and of course the ~17% of Irishmen). The total number of dead in the British forces was ~704,000.