Der Präsident von Windows sagt, dass sich die Plattform „zu einem Agenten-Betriebssystem entwickelt“ und wird in den Antworten gehänselt – „Klar, das will niemand“
https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/windows-president-confirms-os-will-become-ai-agentic-generates-push-back-online
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If steam can get the majority of their games onto Linux there’s no reason for a lot of consumers to run windows.
For this, and many other reasons I hope Mac and Linux get a ton more users. We need serious competition.
Apple will no longer even need marketing to sell Macs.
I truly fucking hate the word „agentic“
Windows peaked in ’98
As a Windows guy who dabbles in various Linux distros…I will disable this shit out the gate. Copilot as a sidekick is great. Copilot as a spy and in your shit all of the time is not.
After Netscape browser became the gateway to internet, didn’t Microsoft make everything in windows into browsers? Like file explorer was incorporated into internet explorer.
Of course they rolled that back because people didn’t want to explore their disks like they browse the internet.
Wjindows is the biggest advertisement for Linux. It’s crazy to me that anyone who pays attention at all would keep using that spyware OS.
Its so nice not having to worry about the bullshit microsoft is pulling with windows. Its sad that after decades of working with windows I had to switch away but I am not regretting it at all. No more random pop up ads, no more forcing me to use their shitty software, no more updates interrupting my work or games. If anyone has hangups switching to linux don’t worry about it most of the time it will just work. It might require using some different software but it is well worth cutting out the bullshit.
People focusing on Steam in the comments, beware that the vast majority of users don’t use Steam and have a need, usually from work, to use well-known software suites (like O365) to do their thing.
Could that vast majority get by with running whatever-browser on Linux for streaming, work and email? Yes. Absolutely could.
However people have a hard enough time with friction in Windows. Switching to a different one, no matter how much it looks and acts like Windows, seems insurmountable. Even if they have help to install it, a big chunk of IT support places do Windows and Mac, not Linux. The market is just not there and so most people won’t be there either so the status quo is likely to continue.
I game, I watch YouTube, and I work in a web browser. Rival offerings are not out of my reach Microsoft
Windows 11 is the best ad to promote Linux nowadays.
„Anyone need another reason to switch to Linux?“ – Pavan Davuluri
Is agentic a new buzzword? I’m still in the modal vs modeless age 😀
More like a double-agentic OS.
This reminds me, I need to get back in Linux
This sold me on switching to Linux with my next pc I don’t care if I lose out on video games that much
Wtf does that even mean?
This explains the spike in Linux usage.
What happens if I just want to slack off for a day?
Saying such things makes the stock price go up.
The international criminal court just dumped Microsoft. International governments and international corporations don’t trust Microsoft or any other American companies. In Europe they have their own operating system that is safe and doesn’t lobby fascists.
Not only does nobody want this, it’s not possible because „AI agents“ only exist in marketing. It’s as much a thing as a fusion-powered jetpack exists if I throw a few machine parts and a solar cell in my backpack and call it one.
10 till it breaks then exploring best options.
Either he is seeing (fabricating) something that I am not seeing, or my definition is way off!
Windows has become the most useless, cyber molesting software out there
I love Linux even more after reading this.
Why in the hell does an OS need raytracing!?!?!
thank god for valve making a decent gaming OS
MS really are fucking up their end user desktop story, but it’s laughable to imagine the corporate world is going to move off any time soon. Totally ignorant of how that world works.
I don’t want Co-Pilot
I don’t want my machine sending endless telemetry data to MS.
I don’t want a Microsoft account.
I don’t want to have to worry about your excessive hardware requirements.
I don’t have to worry anymore because I switched to Linux 18 months ago.
Granted, I’m comfortable with linux because I use it as part of my job…but there are variants out there that are well-suited to Windows users (like Mint). But more average users are going to dump MS the more crap they try to pull.
For non enterprise this is a pain. For enterprise, it’s 100% the right move if they can make some form of anonymous cloud that doesn’t take in medical, financial, and other PPI.
Google became what it is because of chrome and were terrified internet explorer would forward to what became bing too long and too late. Chrome was the necessary path.
The agent OS idea that you can now comb any application running in your machine to help other applications on that same machine is terrific in a specific enterprise case.
No one wants that combined in a non enterprise case. I am curious if this will push students and things to have a “personal” login to their OS and a “student” login to the same OS to attempt to nerf copilot/whatever they wish to call it in their “personal” account. TBD
Edit: to clarify, it is the best possible move to position themselves against Google Docs/gemini and other AI companies.
We need proper support for gamings and a seamless way to use VST plugins (audio).
Unfortunately, it’s been a losing battle until now…
Literally nobody wants this. I want my windows to be an operating system. Let me be in control, fuck off with AI.
[https://www.anthropic.com/research/agentic-misalignment](https://www.anthropic.com/research/agentic-misalignment)
I fully changed my work pc over to Mac this week. Fuck Microsoft.
Windows needs to do one thing: Securely provide the operating system for other applications to function. All of this other shit that they’re cramming down our throats is just garbage to try to show that Microsoft is doing things instead of improving things.
And while I’m up here on my soap box, New Outlook can fuck the fuck right off.
Oh cool, Microsoft family found their way to promote AI to the masses while they secretly plan for it to replace the masses.
They’re a little bit behind in this, everyone else has given you their spiel on how it’s going to save humanity while destroying it in actuality.
People hear AI and automatically have a negative knee jerk reaction because they are being taught that AI is fallible and has problems.
What MS needs to do is to show something that blows users away and makes it so they can’t live without it.
The problem is that you’ll get marketing weasels who have these niche uses for an Agentic OS which doesn’t harness any of the power of AI for the general public.
Before they throw Agentic AI into an OS, show how it can work within CoPilot first. CoPilot will tell me how to do a lot of things, but it can’t do hardly any of them.
„Move all the old messages of this type into an archive and pick out anything that might be interesting to me that I need to respond to. I want to get my mailbox down below 1GB.“
„Organize and sort the files on my desktop so the most common ones I use are within easy reach considering my current window layout.“
„Remember how my windows layout is and keep my profile settings backed up. I want that to be the default layout when I start my computer up“
„Watch what I do for the next week and see if you can take shortcuts to make me more productive.“
„Look through my VPN logs to see why I’m getting blocked from Zoom while connected to the VPN, but not when I’m disconnected and resolve the issue.“
„Run a report on users locked out in Entra for the last 72 hours and show the computers they were locked out from“
„Tell my why my computer seems slower in the last week. Run diagnostics and resolve the problem and report what was done.“
These are all things I WANT Co-Pilot to be able to do, but it will only TELL me how to do them and usually not very well and with a ton of steps that many times don’t apply.
Agents needs to be able to save time, make us more secure, give us better experiences and abilities, and teach/show us things we didn’t know that make us smarter, more informed, and better at interacting with the world.
An Agentic AI OS is inevitable, but it needs to be better than the perceived downfalls of AI.