Once locked in ice for most of the year, this passage is now increasingly navigable during summer months as sea ice recedes. Ships departing from ports like Lianyungang can reach northern Europe in roughly 18 to 20 days, compared with around 30 days through the Suez Canal.
kollma on
Well yeah, but the southern route looks really weird if your destination country is France…
kielu on
I wonder what country controls this fantastic new route
elmarcelito on
Dumb. They should open the Norislk-Baikal-Lianyungang canal 👀
Cjav-latam on
no es mas eficiente un tren que atraviese la ruta de la seda?
POR QUE TODOS ESTÁN OBSESIONADOS CON LOS BARCOS.
necrohardware on
Route is fully controlled by two authoritarian countries before reaching EU …what can possibly go wrong? /s
DasistMamba on
This is not a new route. In 2009, two commercial vessels sailed between Europe and Asia for the first time.
Since then, I have regularly read about how this new route will ruin the Suez Canal, but it is still underused for a number of reasons.
masterperegrin on
In 1991, I learned at school that Wladiwostok was the most northern ice-free harbor.
Beat_Saber_Music on
Won’t be really economical compared to the traditional route simply because of insurance issues, because Russian north lacks infrastructure for example for search and rescue.
bad_ed_ucation on
‚New‘? Arctic researcher here – the NSR has been a matter of discussion (and little implementation) since at least the 1990s. (The Japanese/Russians/Norwegians ran an enormous study on its feasibility back then and the answer was a resounding ‚maybe‘.) Yes, there has been a push by the Russians/Chinese recently to move things along – I think we had a container ship from China to the UK which isn’t nothing but also is mostly symbolic in importance at this stage.
But the same problems remain. This is a very dangerous route where search and rescue capabilities are limited and infrastructure is sparce. At present it is only possible at specific times of the year, but if that weren’t the case (and it won’t be for long, thanks(?) to climate change) it remains primarily controlled by Russia. That means that realistically only Russian and Chinese-flagged vessels are going to be using it unless there are pretty rapid changes in geopolitics in the near future. Many of the largest container shipping companies are European, or from Japan, Taiwan and South Korea – even among the Chinese container ships, there is considerably anxiety around sending them on the NSR for obvious reasons.
The NSR’s primary use remains transport of LNG from northern Russia (Yamal peninsular, notably) to East Asia. A lot of things need to change before it rivals the Suez in any meaningful way – and Arctic cooperation is currently at something like rock bottom so not soon.
VonWiking on
Ah yes, a very new route, why didnt I think of that – Willem Barentsz, 1596.
Prasiatko on
Is it still cheaper if the ship leaves from say Shenzen or Shanghai?
Why are people always talking about this dumb route? Going North Alaska, Canada, Southern Greenland, Europe makes much more sense and is about equally long.
Nuclear_eggo_waffle on
AH FOR JUST ONE TIME
I WOULD TAKE THE NORTHWEST PASSAGE
Firstpoet on
Wow- through a US chokepoint. Ok.
Master_of_thought on
The ships will folow the coast of Russia. And Russia is basically a vassal state of china. And ships will ship stuff from china. So China will be in charge.
Baksteen-13 on
I love climate change…
Ecstatic_Cobbler_264 on
I am still in favor of just drilling a hole straight through the earth.
sludgesnow on
I’ve seen this exact picture in a newspaper 15 years ago
VanillaSkyDreamer on
New route goes to Poland not France
Steelhorse91 on
This is exactly why Russia is big on pushing the “climate change is a myth” narrative… If sea temps rise and tbe northern pass remains usable year round instead of freezing, Russia and China benefit massively trade wise.
Fox33__ on
EU: we are going to tax fuel extra so you drive less and get more fuel efficient cars! This is all to fight global climate change!
Also EU: …oh but we are so going to let a bunch of polluting shipping traffic take a shortcut through one of the planets most important and sensitive areas. I mean: munnies! Yay!
Researchers at the OECD developed a model to predict CO2 emissions for each vessel in the global shipping fleet. These estimates can be used to calculate total CO2 emissions for global shipping. In 2022, there were an estimated 858 million tonnes of CO2 emissions globally from the shipping industry, compared with 739 million tonnes of CO2 emissions from air transport (domestic and international flights); and 63% of emissions from global shipping came from vessels operated by companies based in OECD countries.
Smartyunderpants on
The one thing I don’t get about the arctic route is that there are ports to stop at along the way. The southern route shown on the map has lots of locations to pick up and drop off cargo where as the northern route is exclusively for cargo between the first and final port.
DmitryPavol on
The organization where I work is working on several projects to develop the Northern Sea Route. As far as I understand, Russia alone is unable to develop and operate this route and is trying to create a large network of interested countries with a high volume of shipping. So far, this doesn’t exist. It’s not entirely clear whether large-scale shipping along this route is feasible, partly due to the cold. For now, it seems more like a scam, one that lacks the funding to implement. On the other hand, who’s stopping a similar route being built around Greenland without Russia’s participation?
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Once locked in ice for most of the year, this passage is now increasingly navigable during summer months as sea ice recedes. Ships departing from ports like Lianyungang can reach northern Europe in roughly 18 to 20 days, compared with around 30 days through the Suez Canal.
Well yeah, but the southern route looks really weird if your destination country is France…
I wonder what country controls this fantastic new route
Dumb. They should open the Norislk-Baikal-Lianyungang canal 👀
no es mas eficiente un tren que atraviese la ruta de la seda?
POR QUE TODOS ESTÁN OBSESIONADOS CON LOS BARCOS.
Route is fully controlled by two authoritarian countries before reaching EU …what can possibly go wrong? /s
This is not a new route. In 2009, two commercial vessels sailed between Europe and Asia for the first time.
Since then, I have regularly read about how this new route will ruin the Suez Canal, but it is still underused for a number of reasons.
In 1991, I learned at school that Wladiwostok was the most northern ice-free harbor.
Won’t be really economical compared to the traditional route simply because of insurance issues, because Russian north lacks infrastructure for example for search and rescue.
‚New‘? Arctic researcher here – the NSR has been a matter of discussion (and little implementation) since at least the 1990s. (The Japanese/Russians/Norwegians ran an enormous study on its feasibility back then and the answer was a resounding ‚maybe‘.) Yes, there has been a push by the Russians/Chinese recently to move things along – I think we had a container ship from China to the UK which isn’t nothing but also is mostly symbolic in importance at this stage.
But the same problems remain. This is a very dangerous route where search and rescue capabilities are limited and infrastructure is sparce. At present it is only possible at specific times of the year, but if that weren’t the case (and it won’t be for long, thanks(?) to climate change) it remains primarily controlled by Russia. That means that realistically only Russian and Chinese-flagged vessels are going to be using it unless there are pretty rapid changes in geopolitics in the near future. Many of the largest container shipping companies are European, or from Japan, Taiwan and South Korea – even among the Chinese container ships, there is considerably anxiety around sending them on the NSR for obvious reasons.
The NSR’s primary use remains transport of LNG from northern Russia (Yamal peninsular, notably) to East Asia. A lot of things need to change before it rivals the Suez in any meaningful way – and Arctic cooperation is currently at something like rock bottom so not soon.
Ah yes, a very new route, why didnt I think of that – Willem Barentsz, 1596.
Is it still cheaper if the ship leaves from say Shenzen or Shanghai?
Just walk it
Be my guest: [https://www.vesselfinder.com/](https://www.vesselfinder.com/)
So which route is the fastest?
Why are people always talking about this dumb route? Going North Alaska, Canada, Southern Greenland, Europe makes much more sense and is about equally long.
AH FOR JUST ONE TIME
I WOULD TAKE THE NORTHWEST PASSAGE
Wow- through a US chokepoint. Ok.
The ships will folow the coast of Russia. And Russia is basically a vassal state of china. And ships will ship stuff from china. So China will be in charge.
I love climate change…
I am still in favor of just drilling a hole straight through the earth.
I’ve seen this exact picture in a newspaper 15 years ago
New route goes to Poland not France
This is exactly why Russia is big on pushing the “climate change is a myth” narrative… If sea temps rise and tbe northern pass remains usable year round instead of freezing, Russia and China benefit massively trade wise.
EU: we are going to tax fuel extra so you drive less and get more fuel efficient cars! This is all to fight global climate change!
Also EU: …oh but we are so going to let a bunch of polluting shipping traffic take a shortcut through one of the planets most important and sensitive areas. I mean: munnies! Yay!
Researchers at the OECD developed a model to predict CO2 emissions for each vessel in the global shipping fleet. These estimates can be used to calculate total CO2 emissions for global shipping. In 2022, there were an estimated 858 million tonnes of CO2 emissions globally from the shipping industry, compared with 739 million tonnes of CO2 emissions from air transport (domestic and international flights); and 63% of emissions from global shipping came from vessels operated by companies based in OECD countries.
The one thing I don’t get about the arctic route is that there are ports to stop at along the way. The southern route shown on the map has lots of locations to pick up and drop off cargo where as the northern route is exclusively for cargo between the first and final port.
The organization where I work is working on several projects to develop the Northern Sea Route. As far as I understand, Russia alone is unable to develop and operate this route and is trying to create a large network of interested countries with a high volume of shipping. So far, this doesn’t exist. It’s not entirely clear whether large-scale shipping along this route is feasible, partly due to the cold. For now, it seems more like a scam, one that lacks the funding to implement. On the other hand, who’s stopping a similar route being built around Greenland without Russia’s participation?