Funny how it is affordable for the over 65s though.
redditpappy on
Surely we should be prioritising public transport usage over cars. End the car subsidies (frozen fuel levies, salary sacrificed electric cars, constant handouts to car manufacturers, etc) and instead use that money to get people onto trains and buses cheaply.
Pookie5213 on
I bet the out of touch pricks are wondering why they don’t just ask to use mummy and daddy’s range rover
Ok_Royal_2503 on
Good, people need to start doing shit for themselves instead of constantly wanting the state to do shit for them. It’s becoming ridiculous.
1bryantj on
Seriously just help young people out just alittle bit. I would hate to be a teenager in these present times
CyberPunkDongTooLong on
I live in Geneva, an annual pass for trains, buses, ferries in the entire canton and surrounding areas in another country is around £500 for a year. For buses/trains/ferries that come on time and many times an hour almost 24/7, and can get pretty much anywhere you want.
Add an extra £200 for first class (and swiss first class is *much* better than UK first class).
I used to live in Liverpool on about a 10th of the wage I get in Switzerland, an annual train pass, just trains, with heavy restrictions in just Merseyside is around £2000. Ontop of that would need a bus pass as most of the city isn’t served by train, another ~£1000, on top of that I would regularly have to pay for taxis because the trains and buses are often cancelled/extremely late with no reasonable replacement service, about another ~ £1000 a year.
Free bus passes aren’t needed, reasonably priced public transportation that actually works is needed.
AlchemyAled on
Buses should be free for all. Hop on hop off. It would pay for itself in various ways
AncientStaff6602 on
If you’re young, want a job, need to travel for anything, or if you’re a bit older and like retraining/changing career, it’s very clear the message is “get fucked”
But if I’m over 65, I get anything I want. Give the young ones a chance ffs
laggyteabag on
When I was an apprentice, the wage at the time was a whopping £2.73 an hour (I realise this sentence makes me sound like an old man shaking my fist at a cloud, but this was only in 2015). My weekly bus pass would cost me £16 a week.
I couldn’t drive at the time, and I lived in a place where walking or cycling to work was simply not feasible. I had to depend on public transport.
Spending a day’s wages just getting to work for the week wasn’t a great feeling (and it was a shit job anyway).
If the government want to encourage young people to get to work, and they want to encourage the use of public transport, they need to make it appealing and approachable.
And don’t even get me started on the price of trains.
Heuchelei on
We made all public transport fares in Brisbane 50 cents a ride. That’s 25p. It’s what you can do when you don’t have successive governments obsessed with austerity.
Small-Percentage-181 on
Nationalise essential services some of these companies draw profits that could support other less profitable services.
BoomSatsuma on
Old people can have it all.
Triple lock. Free bus pass. Winter fuel allowance.
Young people. Sorry you’re on your own.
Vaxtez on
I’m in Wales & the £1-3 fares for 16-21s has been an utter boon for me getting around. I don’t think i’d have explored as much if going to somewhere like Cardiff was £12-13 for a bus
suihpares on
Tax. The. Rich.
Increase minimum wage.
Decrease cost of housing and transport
Decrease salary of politicans.
Decrease number of billionaires.
Paul_my_Dickov on
People moving around the country cheaply on mass transit can be nothing but good for business.
Astriania on
Of course not, we don’t have any money left after giving all of it to the old people!
There’s far more social value in free transport for 16-22 year olds than 65+. They are at the beginning of their adult lives, creating habits, socialising and making the future of our country. Rich old people can afford to pay for their own bus trip into town out of the pension they are already given.
JakeGrey on
So where’s that leave people aged between 23 and 65 who are struggling to afford the bus?
At this point just make them free at the point of use for everyone and have done with it. Or at least *cheap* at the point of use: The £2 single fare cap was a good start but even that didn’t save as much money as you might think, not when a Day Rider’s about ten quid.
TheCharalampos on
You know a great way to enhance the economy? Empowering young people to be able to seek out opportunities without being forced to care for a car.
Proof_Drag_2801 on
I live in the countryside and have three questions.
1. What is a „bus“?
2. Why do I need a „pass“ to escape from one?
3. Why do young urban people need for me to buy them one?
overshar on
so the group of people with the lowest minimum wage, the highest car insurance and the least likely to afford driving lessons in the first place are the ones least deserving if a bus pass. lmao
no_fooling on
New york about to get free busses and were going the other way. Dumb.
jammythesandwich on
Whats the saying;
Society benefits greatly from old people who plant trees whose shade they will never see.
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Funny how it is affordable for the over 65s though.
Surely we should be prioritising public transport usage over cars. End the car subsidies (frozen fuel levies, salary sacrificed electric cars, constant handouts to car manufacturers, etc) and instead use that money to get people onto trains and buses cheaply.
I bet the out of touch pricks are wondering why they don’t just ask to use mummy and daddy’s range rover
Good, people need to start doing shit for themselves instead of constantly wanting the state to do shit for them. It’s becoming ridiculous.
Seriously just help young people out just alittle bit. I would hate to be a teenager in these present times
I live in Geneva, an annual pass for trains, buses, ferries in the entire canton and surrounding areas in another country is around £500 for a year. For buses/trains/ferries that come on time and many times an hour almost 24/7, and can get pretty much anywhere you want.
Add an extra £200 for first class (and swiss first class is *much* better than UK first class).
I used to live in Liverpool on about a 10th of the wage I get in Switzerland, an annual train pass, just trains, with heavy restrictions in just Merseyside is around £2000. Ontop of that would need a bus pass as most of the city isn’t served by train, another ~£1000, on top of that I would regularly have to pay for taxis because the trains and buses are often cancelled/extremely late with no reasonable replacement service, about another ~ £1000 a year.
Free bus passes aren’t needed, reasonably priced public transportation that actually works is needed.
Buses should be free for all. Hop on hop off. It would pay for itself in various ways
If you’re young, want a job, need to travel for anything, or if you’re a bit older and like retraining/changing career, it’s very clear the message is “get fucked”
But if I’m over 65, I get anything I want. Give the young ones a chance ffs
When I was an apprentice, the wage at the time was a whopping £2.73 an hour (I realise this sentence makes me sound like an old man shaking my fist at a cloud, but this was only in 2015). My weekly bus pass would cost me £16 a week.
I couldn’t drive at the time, and I lived in a place where walking or cycling to work was simply not feasible. I had to depend on public transport.
Spending a day’s wages just getting to work for the week wasn’t a great feeling (and it was a shit job anyway).
If the government want to encourage young people to get to work, and they want to encourage the use of public transport, they need to make it appealing and approachable.
And don’t even get me started on the price of trains.
We made all public transport fares in Brisbane 50 cents a ride. That’s 25p. It’s what you can do when you don’t have successive governments obsessed with austerity.
Nationalise essential services some of these companies draw profits that could support other less profitable services.
Old people can have it all.
Triple lock. Free bus pass. Winter fuel allowance.
Young people. Sorry you’re on your own.
I’m in Wales & the £1-3 fares for 16-21s has been an utter boon for me getting around. I don’t think i’d have explored as much if going to somewhere like Cardiff was £12-13 for a bus
Tax. The. Rich.
Increase minimum wage.
Decrease cost of housing and transport
Decrease salary of politicans.
Decrease number of billionaires.
People moving around the country cheaply on mass transit can be nothing but good for business.
Of course not, we don’t have any money left after giving all of it to the old people!
There’s far more social value in free transport for 16-22 year olds than 65+. They are at the beginning of their adult lives, creating habits, socialising and making the future of our country. Rich old people can afford to pay for their own bus trip into town out of the pension they are already given.
So where’s that leave people aged between 23 and 65 who are struggling to afford the bus?
At this point just make them free at the point of use for everyone and have done with it. Or at least *cheap* at the point of use: The £2 single fare cap was a good start but even that didn’t save as much money as you might think, not when a Day Rider’s about ten quid.
You know a great way to enhance the economy? Empowering young people to be able to seek out opportunities without being forced to care for a car.
I live in the countryside and have three questions.
1. What is a „bus“?
2. Why do I need a „pass“ to escape from one?
3. Why do young urban people need for me to buy them one?
so the group of people with the lowest minimum wage, the highest car insurance and the least likely to afford driving lessons in the first place are the ones least deserving if a bus pass. lmao
New york about to get free busses and were going the other way. Dumb.
Whats the saying;
Society benefits greatly from old people who plant trees whose shade they will never see.