This is amazing! Unexpected, considering how bad things looked.
Bur now there’s other matters to fight on the digital front. Like mandatory age verification and dumb obscenity laws.
Italiandude2022 on
This great news…but how long will it take before someone else tries again to push for this kind of laws?
ThatWeLike on
I’ve been so angry and embarrassed with my government for spear heading this, and they keep framing this as a hit for online child safety. I’m sorry that we had to fight this in the first place, but thanks to everyone who did!
Cosmos1985 on
Danke schön, Deutschland. Seems it was their reversal that was the final straws here, as well as one of the three Danish government parties getting cold feet.
We’ll probably see more proposals like this in the future though. The battle is won, but the war is not over.
Wasn’t it reported here the other day that a worse version was drafted? I remembe reading something like Chat Control on steroids
Fun-Needleworker-794 on
Wow looks like we won for once
silentspectator27 on
Great news! Just remember: the next Presidency goes to Cyprus who also support chat control. And after them it`s Ireland, which are discussing a domestic version of Chat Control for domestic use.
lungshenli on
Success!!
See yall next week when someone restarts that shit
vRiise on
See you next week.
FollowingRare6247 on
Have to stay vigilant folks, I don’t think anything is won. Kicked the can down the road…
We know a few countries support this. Unfortunately, mine is one, apparently – I never really got good responses from my MEPs.
Classyxchic on
Things in EU tech policy seem to shift pretty quickly lately.
Fuskeduske on
Dude has been advocating hard for it everywhere, blocking people that disagreed with him in danish, acting like a child…. Apparently having a tanter tantrum is not enough
dat_9600gt_user on
**The Danish EU presidency could not create support for proposals to scan messages for sexual abuse material.**
The government will no longer force tech giants to scan citizens‘ messages for images of sexual abuse of children.
The Danish EU presidency is thus withdrawing its proposal after both Germany and the governing party Moderaterne have opposed it. This is stated in a written comment.
„This will mean that the detection order will not be part of the EU Presidency’s new compromise proposal, and that it will continue to be voluntary for the tech giants to trace material with sexual abuse of children,“ said Justice Minister Peter Hummelgaard (Social Democratic Party).
He is at the head of the table in the work to get the CSA regulation adopted during the Danish EU Presidency, which lasts until the new year.
The regulation was originally proposed by the European Commission in 2022. It could force tech companies to scan the content of private citizens‘ photos and videos on encrypted services.
But both Germany and later the Moderates withdrew their support for the proposal because it was too intrusive.
# Believes the proposal was less intrusive
However, Hummelgaard believes that Denmark’s proposal was less intrusive than the European Commission’s original proposal. And he emphasizes that Save the Children, Unicef, Children’s Conditions and Digital Responsibility gave their clear support.
However, the risk of losing an important tool is highly valued.
– Right now, we are in a situation where we risk completely losing a key tool in the fight against sexual abuse of children, because the current scheme, which allows for voluntary scanning, expires in April 2026.
– Therefore, we have to act no matter what. We owe it to all the children who are exposed to outrageous abuse, says Peter Hummelgaard.
The government’s original proposal will violate fundamental freedoms and will potentially result in mass surveillance of citizens in the EU, according to critics. They include hundreds of researchers and experts, the Danish Data Ethics Council and the tech giants themselves.
Germany has directly called it „mass surveillance“ in the past.
„Mass surveillance of private messages must be taboo in a state governed by the rule of law,“ the German Ministry of Justice wrote on X.
Save the Children calls the voluntary tracing via scanning a „huge success“ and is frustrated that there was no support for a compromise.
– We are deeply concerned and frustrated that there has not been European support for a compromise where tech companies can be required to track down and remove photos and videos of sexual abuse of children, says senior adviser in digital child protection Tashi Andersen in a written comment.
Cute-Breadfruit3368 on
not so fast. why? article has an opinion.
Whats the truth?
polemizzatore on
Don’t be too happy. ProtectEU and EU going black is still ongoing.
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This is amazing! Unexpected, considering how bad things looked.
Bur now there’s other matters to fight on the digital front. Like mandatory age verification and dumb obscenity laws.
This great news…but how long will it take before someone else tries again to push for this kind of laws?
I’ve been so angry and embarrassed with my government for spear heading this, and they keep framing this as a hit for online child safety. I’m sorry that we had to fight this in the first place, but thanks to everyone who did!
Danke schön, Deutschland. Seems it was their reversal that was the final straws here, as well as one of the three Danish government parties getting cold feet.
We’ll probably see more proposals like this in the future though. The battle is won, but the war is not over.
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fifb8agngc7dy.jpg%3Fwidth%3D846%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Daf69e4330b70fe29168bd9f400a030d45e8e2220
Wasn’t it reported here the other day that a worse version was drafted? I remembe reading something like Chat Control on steroids
Wow looks like we won for once
Great news! Just remember: the next Presidency goes to Cyprus who also support chat control. And after them it`s Ireland, which are discussing a domestic version of Chat Control for domestic use.
Success!!
See yall next week when someone restarts that shit
See you next week.
Have to stay vigilant folks, I don’t think anything is won. Kicked the can down the road…
We know a few countries support this. Unfortunately, mine is one, apparently – I never really got good responses from my MEPs.
Things in EU tech policy seem to shift pretty quickly lately.
Dude has been advocating hard for it everywhere, blocking people that disagreed with him in danish, acting like a child…. Apparently having a tanter tantrum is not enough
**The Danish EU presidency could not create support for proposals to scan messages for sexual abuse material.**
The government will no longer force tech giants to scan citizens‘ messages for images of sexual abuse of children.
The Danish EU presidency is thus withdrawing its proposal after both Germany and the governing party Moderaterne have opposed it. This is stated in a written comment.
„This will mean that the detection order will not be part of the EU Presidency’s new compromise proposal, and that it will continue to be voluntary for the tech giants to trace material with sexual abuse of children,“ said Justice Minister Peter Hummelgaard (Social Democratic Party).
He is at the head of the table in the work to get the CSA regulation adopted during the Danish EU Presidency, which lasts until the new year.
The regulation was originally proposed by the European Commission in 2022. It could force tech companies to scan the content of private citizens‘ photos and videos on encrypted services.
But both Germany and later the Moderates withdrew their support for the proposal because it was too intrusive.
# Believes the proposal was less intrusive
However, Hummelgaard believes that Denmark’s proposal was less intrusive than the European Commission’s original proposal. And he emphasizes that Save the Children, Unicef, Children’s Conditions and Digital Responsibility gave their clear support.
However, the risk of losing an important tool is highly valued.
– Right now, we are in a situation where we risk completely losing a key tool in the fight against sexual abuse of children, because the current scheme, which allows for voluntary scanning, expires in April 2026.
– Therefore, we have to act no matter what. We owe it to all the children who are exposed to outrageous abuse, says Peter Hummelgaard.
The government’s original proposal will violate fundamental freedoms and will potentially result in mass surveillance of citizens in the EU, according to critics. They include hundreds of researchers and experts, the Danish Data Ethics Council and the tech giants themselves.
Germany has directly called it „mass surveillance“ in the past.
„Mass surveillance of private messages must be taboo in a state governed by the rule of law,“ the German Ministry of Justice wrote on X.
Save the Children calls the voluntary tracing via scanning a „huge success“ and is frustrated that there was no support for a compromise.
– We are deeply concerned and frustrated that there has not been European support for a compromise where tech companies can be required to track down and remove photos and videos of sexual abuse of children, says senior adviser in digital child protection Tashi Andersen in a written comment.
not so fast. why? article has an opinion.
Whats the truth?
Don’t be too happy. ProtectEU and EU going black is still ongoing.