Fordern Sie, dass Eltern für die Verbrechen ihrer Kinder nach dem Mord an Bhim Kohli bestraft werden
https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/call-parents-punished-childrens-crimes-10604548
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Fordern Sie, dass Eltern für die Verbrechen ihrer Kinder nach dem Mord an Bhim Kohli bestraft werden
https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/call-parents-punished-childrens-crimes-10604548
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Any primary/secondary educator worth his/her salt will attest that the majority of guardians/parents simply don’t give a shit these days. They treat schooling like subsidised daycare, so fuck knows what the home life is like.
„Parents could be held accountable for their children’s crimes if a law proposed by the MP for Braunstone Town, where pensioner Bhim Kohli was killed last year, is passed.“
This can surely only be a good thing. Not everyone who is capable of having kids is fit to raise them. At the very least, it should force some accountability.
That said, I’m not sure how this would play out for single parent households, which, if I’m not mistaken, tend to show higher rates of juvenile delinquency compared with two parent households.
Should an absent father be punished for their sons involvement with gangs? In some instances, if a causal link can be established, I think so.
I have to say I agree with this concept. Kids that are under the age of criminal responsibility but still commit crimes – those are the parents this should target.
Incidentally, the nastiest kids at my child’s school have the scuzziest parents who you can pick out a mile off. The apple sadly rarely falls far from the tree.
This is one of those ideas that sounds good at first glance but falls apart the more you think about it. Parents do not have total control over their children. This is especially true in the teen years. If you have a 17 year old who is out of control, who is possibly larger and stronger than you, what exactly can you do to stop him?
Holding parents legally responsible for everything their children do assumes that every act of juvenile wrongdoing is the result of bad parenting. That’s simply not true. There are countless cases where parents do everything right – providing structure, discipline, and support – yet their child still makes bad choices due to peer pressure, mental health issues, or sheer rebellion. Punishing the parents in those cases doesn’t fix the problem. I can easily imagine the previously mentioned 17 year old hearing their parents would get in trouble for their actions, and thinking that’s a good thing because they don’t like them.
It could also have a chilling effect on how parents interact with their kids. Some might become overly controlling or harsh out of fear of punishment, which could worsen family relationships or even lead to abuse. Others might be afraid to report their child’s crimes or seek help from authorities, since doing so could implicate themselves.
I would not have kids if this were a law. Simply the act of having children would place a ridiculously high level of legal liability on yourself. You don’t know how your newborn is going to turn out in 15 years. Parenting is already one of the hardest, most unpredictable jobs in the world, and this kind of legislation would also turn it into a legal gamble. You could do everything right and still face punishment because of one terrible decision they make as a teenager, completely out of your own control.
Nah this is bollocks. Sure, some wrong ‘uns are created by their upbringing (or lack of), but some are just born wrong through no fault of their parents. I can think of multiple families I know of with three or more kids, all of whom are accomplished and upstanding citizens, bar one bad apple that hasn’t been raised any different but has always been trouble. No amount of nurture will stop some people turning into delinquents.
No. We do not transfer guilt between generations in this country.
That might be done elsewhere around the globe but not here. We’re better than that.
The only issue I can see is that the worst parents still won’t care. This is going to hit those who are apathetic/hands off but who are not also not necessarily terrible parents. The parents we want to hit will act like their kids and complain that they are just being targeted for no reason. They will pay the fine or serve the time and just go back to not raising their kids properly.
Don’t quite understand why the parents should be punished here?
I actually agree with this, but only in specific and limited circumstances where parents are so negligent that they are basically an accessory to the crime. The bar needs to be high though.
This is the absolute way to go. The kids don’t know any better because the parents enable them.
It falls on the parents to repay society.
Edit: ITT, parents triggered.
No. This is a minefield and parenting won’t always be the cause of why the offence happened
Parents should be accountable for their own crimes. If they are neglectful or abusive and this is felt to have led to a crime, prosecute them for what they did or failed to do.
And how do we think this is going to affect troubled children positively?
What happens if you’ve got, say, three great children and one bad one? Punishing the parents for the actions of the bad one could threaten the whole family unit. Is it okay to put the three nice kids in care while the parents go to prison because the troubled one fid something terrible? Would that be just?
Absolutely. Parents are responsible for their kids upto 16. Accountability is zero. If your kid does something like this I want you in court going through everything you did to try and bring the up right and stop this kind of thing happening
Absolutely. Parents are responsible for their kids upto 16. Accountability is zero. If your kid does something like this I want you in court going through everything you did to try and bring the up right and stop this kind of thing happening
Didn’t this happen in the US where the parents were charged for the school shooting because of how negligent they were with the child?
I think it is the only way ahead, you now have a generation of parents who themselves have had no discipline or boundaries put on them and their offspring think that they can di and say they like whole feral families breeding like rabbits who do not believe that any law belongs to them. So parents must take responsibility for their child’s crimes if the person is over 16 they should be named and shamed but punished in a correctional institution where they are forced to lean all subjects to an except able level plus social responsibility.
What about Grandparents being blamed for their kids behaviour and then their kids being blamed for their kids behaviour? Personally, I blame my great, great , great, great grandparents for my behavior.
This completely ignores the fact that there are many good parents whose child(ren) behave badly, despite them desperately trying to get help. Our social support structures are failing and the result is right here.
There needs to be early intervention targeting problem behaviours rather than a focus on punishment after. Of course there are many awful families who raise awful kids. Those kids need early intervention even more.
The fact that people are arguing seriously in favor of this shows just how far we have fallen as a country. It is just bonkers to even suggest this.
This is just corruption of blood but in the opposite direction.
It would also give kids who fall out with their parents a perverse incentive to commit crimes.
This is the only way. Make the parents equally culpable for the crimes that their children under 18 commit.
Absolutely support the idea.
In fact extend it even further, crimes of children and animals should be held responsible by parents and owners respectively(animal kills someone should be a murder or manslaughter charge for owner, same with children and parents).
If parents had to face accountability for their children’s actions then you’d immediately see more parents start taking interest in their children’s actions.
We’re a country where everyone passes accountability and blame along like a circle and never consider themselves to blame for anything
Honestly, I don’t believe there needs to be a change in the law in this matter. It’s my understanding that parents of a child that commits a crime could still be sued in civil court and honestly I think that’s enough unless the parents are literally co-conspirators.
Whilst I don’t think it’s fair to outright punish all parents for their child’s behaviour, I think if enough evidence is produced to show that the parents lack of intervension led to whatever the child did, then the parents should be punished with something like a fine, or in this case with a sentence.
I can completely see why certain minorities would think this way. Maybe countries with caste systems for example, or if commits a crime, they’re bringing shame on their dead ancestors, which is a massive issue. Its more of an Asian thing I guess, both South Asian and East Asian. Plus the Asian concept of face, which is essentially your ‚a combination of a person’s social standing, reputation, dignity, and honor in the eyes of others‘ . Basically someone who commits a crime dishonours the whole family.
The UK is essentially ‚yeah we know there are lots of scumbag families, but that kid of a drug addicted criminal could become the next Nobel prize winner or at least become a middle class suburban electrician‘. Statistically most don’t (having seen the way poverty perpetuates firsthand),but it’s essentially we think kids are tabula rasas. Sometimes a mother would be shamed for her unruly child’s behaviour.
I’d say Asians essentially have a more realistic view of how it plays out, but it’s culturally different. Western values are essentially more idealistic vs pragmatic.